LIVE: Congress holds UFO hearing.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

In and out of morph or in govermemt and not.

originally posted by: introufo
Deep conspiracy?

WARNING?

Two things happened today outside of these hearings that may be related, and a WARNING...
First, even though this is a bipartisan effort, notably, it’s the Republicans ( AND I SAY GOOD TO THEM) who are mainly pushing this, and the Dems, maybe though supportive, are taking a back seat.

Two things happened today outside of this UFO hearing that very conspiratorily and synchronistically or DELIBERATELY may be related...

One, the physical collapse or freezing of the GOP head of the Senate, Mitch McConnell, and two, from the Dem side the collapse of the Biden deal to keep him out of jail.

Coincidence or a deep dark power at work warning both sides?
PUBICALLY

Back off this UFO stuff!

UAP briefing has been scheduled for a while, and there was no indication Hunter's deal was going to fall through till the last moment.

I've got an open mind but spell it out

how does Mitch McConnell seemingly having a stroke have to do with anything?

Was he supposed to keep the lid on? does he know the gig is up?

Is his human skin beginning the shed of his reptilian turtle-like body?

I disagree with Graves on one point……it is true that the FAA doesn’t have its own procedure for reporting by Commercial, Military, and Private Pilots……but according to its referring guidelines

Special Flights Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) Reports

Section 8.

Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) Reports

9-8-1 GENERAL

a. Persons wanting to report UFO/unexplained phenomena activity should contact a UFO/unexplained phenomena reporting data collection center, such as the National UFO Reporting Center, etc.

b. If concern is expressed that life or property might be endangered, report the activity to the local law enforcement department.

So…according to Graves….there’s no central depository for UFO/UAP reports…..but there is…

National UFO Reporting Center

Why isn’t this sufficient?…anything else, as Graves is suggesting, would be redundant…imo.

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originally posted by: putnam6


Interdimensional humanoid ectoplasm

That has potential to become a thing.

originally posted by: introufo
Deep conspiracy?

WARNING?

Two things happened today outside of these hearings that may be related, and a WARNING...
First, even though this is a bipartisan effort, notably, it’s the Republicans ( AND I SAY GOOD TO THEM) who are mainly pushing this, and the Dems, maybe though supportive, are taking a back seat.

Two things happened today outside of this UFO hearing that very conspiratorily and synchronistically or DELIBERATELY may be related...

One, the physical collapse or freezing of the GOP head of the Senate, Mitch McConnell, and two, from the Dem side the collapse of the Biden deal to keep him out of jail.

Coincidence or a deep dark power at work warning both sides?
PUBICALLY

Back off this UFO stuff!

What are you talking about?

Its been a pretty even push on both sides.

The most aggressive/pointed person in that room today was (D) Rep. Jared Moskowitz. He went FULL BORE multiple times.

(R) Tim Burchett was amazing as always, and (R) Ana Paulina Luna almost hit Moskowitz level of fiery attack dog a few times.

(D) AOC asked some SNEAKY good questions, and you know once she bites into this she wont let it go.

(R) Gaetz as much as I dont like him was very pointed and brought some GREAT additions to the record.

One of the best things about this is that is feels extremely....

"We are the world... We are the children..." 🤣

originally posted by: JKLTO

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: KKLOCO
Did anyone else notice Grusch’s body language?

IMO, he seemed overwhelmingly proud of himself.

Which means, he’s still got strings and he is not an EX intelligence officer.

I wonder who his handlers are.

Handlers? sounds like you are expecting a psyop. Perhaps but for now I was impressed by both the pilots and Grusch well now the clock is ticking we will see how Burchett and the other congressmen and women respond after the SCIF meetings.

To some degree or another, everything related to government or military at this scale should be treated as a psyop. Even if everything the testifying witnesses are speaking up about is true and accurate, that information will be integrated as part of greater psyop, if it wasn't already a part of one in advance of their testimony (and it more than likely was).

My sense is that this is some kind of limited hangout operation. Although the number of ordinary people seeing things in the sky was already getting to be a bit too much to continue sweeping under the rug, the number of incidents being documented by (an increasingly talkative but out of the loop) rank and file military personnel has made feigning ignorance on the matter impossible to continue.

I don't know if we're dealing with spacefaring ETs or if the tech is dimensional or simply Earth based in origin, but - whatever it is - I think we're going to get some limited amounts of factual information mixed with some unnecessary details that will keep the public and our braindead politicians (who likely know not much more than we do, in terms of what's above top secret) aimlessly chattering and chasing down dead end leads - or in other words, business as usual. In that sense, this entire thing very likely is a huge psyop. The real question is - to what end?

I have no doubt we will get dribs and drabs of bits and pieces of information.

At face value, we the Congress going WTF, and the intelligence and defense community saying none ya. Behind the scenes and back, channel chit is probably going down too.

I'm optimistic with a healthy dose of skepticism they are gonna try Project Mogul this chit. Like the head honcho committee member said and I'm paraphrasing here, "I understand the National Security angle on any new incidences but what about those from 20-30-40 years ago.?"

He's right, what detection Tech are we using in the 70s then that still has to be secret now? #2 Like Burchett said if it was Russian they wouldn't be struggling with Ukraine, and if it was China they would own us more than they already do...

This is what an AI said when asked about alien disclosure,

As the members of Congress sat in their seats, waiting for the hearing to commence, a group of scientists and military personnel entered the room. They looked tense and nervous, prompting murmurs and whispers among the crowd who were eagerly anticipating the announcement.

The head scientist stepped forward, clearing his throat nervously before beginning his testimony. "Ladies and gentlemen," he began, "Today, it is with great trepidation that we bring forth information that will change the course of human history forever."

The room went silent. Every eye was trained on the scientist as he revealed that for the past decade, the government had been in contact with extraterrestrial life forms.

"The creatures come from a planet far beyond our own," the scientist continued. "They are highly intelligent and possess staggering technological capabilities that far surpass our own."

The crowd gasped in unison as the scientist explained that these extraterrestrial life forms had been visiting our planet for centuries, gathering information and studying our society.

The head of the military quickly took the floor. "These beings are not here to bring peace," he warned. "Our contact with them has revealed that they are here to harvest our planet's resources and enslave humanity. The consequences of ignoring this threat could be catastrophic."

Panic began to spread throughout the crowd as they realized the severity of the situation. The realization that they had been living in the presence of such advanced beings sent shivers down their spines.

The scientists and military personnel laid out their plan to combat this extraterrestrial threat, but it was clear to everyone in the room that it was an uphill battle. The aliens' technological advances far exceeded anything humanity could even comprehend.

As the hearing ended, the audience left in a daze, struggling to come to terms with the harsh truth. The knowledge that extraterrestrial life existed and was proposing to destroy their planet was something that would take a long time to sink in.

The days that followed were chaotic, with people stockpiling supplies and abandoning their homes out of fear. Human society as we knew it was forever changed, ushering in a new age of uncertainty and fear.


Yikes!!!

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Interesting comment about Christians and Muslims getting over it.

Always got to get in a dig, right?

It's no secret I'm no fan of religion , and it's the worlds religions that will fight the full disclosure of Extraterrestrials .

Disclosure throws a huge wedge into religion.

originally posted by: socialmediaclown
Dog and pony show.

Do you mean dogs and ponies have high-tech craft beyond human intelligence? Wow, who's the good boy indeed? Let's all be glad they are man's best friend.

Isn't Sirius the dog star? Interesting hypothesis there, socialmediaclown.

Throw in the Horsehead Nebula, also known as Barnard 33 or... We have stars Mizar and Alcor sometimes known as the "Horse and Rider," with the brighter Mizar representing the horse and the dimmer Alcor acting as the "rider" on its back.

So they potentially come from Sirius and Mizar star system

Damn fine deductive reasoning SMC

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Interesting comment about Christians and Muslims getting over it.

Always got to get in a dig, right?

It's no secret I'm no fan of religion , and it's the worlds religions that will fight the full disclosure of Extraterrestrials .

Disclosure throws a huge wedge into religion.

I agree and if they were finding these craft in the 40s-70s I could easily see the religious implications being used as one reason to keep it on the down low

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Interesting comment about Christians and Muslims getting over it.

Always got to get in a dig, right?

It's no secret I'm no fan of religion.

An observation…. your… as abuv so below….is a take from … as above, so below…I take it?

If so….and as you say…your no fan of religion…..did you know that as above, so below is in a Bible verse?

Matthew 6:10 …. Set the world right; Do what's best - as above, so below.

The irony 🤔

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originally posted by: ATSAlex
This is what an AI said when asked about alien disclosure,

As the members of Congress sat in their seats, waiting for the hearing to commence, a group of scientists and military personnel entered the room. They looked tense and nervous, prompting murmurs and whispers among the crowd who were eagerly anticipating the announcement.

The head scientist stepped forward, clearing his throat nervously before beginning his testimony. "Ladies and gentlemen," he began, "Today, it is with great trepidation that we bring forth information that will change the course of human history forever."

The room went silent. Every eye was trained on the scientist as he revealed that for the past decade, the government had been in contact with extraterrestrial life forms.

"The creatures come from a planet far beyond our own," the scientist continued. "They are highly intelligent and possess staggering technological capabilities that far surpass our own."

The crowd gasped in unison as the scientist explained that these extraterrestrial life forms had been visiting our planet for centuries, gathering information and studying our society.

The head of the military quickly took the floor. "These beings are not here to bring peace," he warned. "Our contact with them has revealed that they are here to harvest our planet's resources and enslave humanity. The consequences of ignoring this threat could be catastrophic."

Panic began to spread throughout the crowd as they realized the severity of the situation. The realization that they had been living in the presence of such advanced beings sent shivers down their spines.

The scientists and military personnel laid out their plan to combat this extraterrestrial threat, but it was clear to everyone in the room that it was an uphill battle. The aliens' technological advances far exceeded anything humanity could even comprehend.

As the hearing ended, the audience left in a daze, struggling to come to terms with the harsh truth. The knowledge that extraterrestrial life existed and was proposing to destroy their planet was something that would take a long time to sink in.

The days that followed were chaotic, with people stockpiling supplies and abandoning their homes out of fear. Human society as we knew it was forever changed, ushering in a new age of uncertainty and fear.


Yikes!!!

The WEF wants to enslave us with their digital dystopian prison (digital ID tied to social credit scores and CBDC) . I'd rather be enslaved by aliens than the 1% lizards. At least than we would be surrounded by aliens . I can't think of anything better .

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Interesting comment about Christians and Muslims getting over it.

Always got to get in a dig, right?

It's no secret I'm no fan of religion.

An observation…. your… as abuv so below….is a take from … as above, so below…I take it?

If so….and as you say…your no fan of religion…..did you know that as above, so below is in a Bible verse?

Matthew 6:10 …. Set the world right; Do what's best - as above, so below.

The irony 🤔

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I study and gather wisdom from the Bible that being said the Bible has little to do with organized religion . Christ himself hated organized religion.

The Bible is simply a tool of religion. As Above , So Below is a hermetic axiom referring to the duality and balance of all things and a representation of Magick .

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

As a follower of Christ I have zero doubt that at least one race of extraterrestrials exist. Any more than that? Unless someone shows me scripture to refute it, then I can't imagine God creating all that space for nothing.

If scripture teaches it, then it is so. However, just because scripture doesn't say something doesn't mean it isn't so. God tells us everything we NEED to know, and some extra stuff. I don't tell my kids EVERYTHING either.

a reply to: introufo

This is too big to be used as a cover for either of those, surely?

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Interesting comment about Christians and Muslims getting over it.

Always got to get in a dig, right?

It's no secret I'm no fan of religion , and it's the worlds religions that will fight the full disclosure of Extraterrestrials .

Disclosure throws a huge wedge into religion.

I agree and if they were finding these craft in the 40s-70s I could easily see the religious implications being used as one reason to keep it on the down low

Absolutely mate , Back in the 40's -70's religion had a strangle hold on national Policy .

originally posted by: 0bserver1
a reply to: putnam6


But pushing the envelope by social media ,and because mainstream is losing that battle because there are Podcasters out there that do coverage way better than msn does frightens them.

I think good Podcasters breaking this story and multiply that by copy and paste casters will eventually be more powerful as all msn together

Who are the good podcasters covering up to date ufo encounters?

I’m out of the loop as I’ve been mostly skeptical of this topic.

The Dept of Naval intelligence has the really good stuff. Not just ufo related, but all kinds of things. Including confiscated things from citizens who were murdered after the confiscations.

I just don't see these sorts being made to spill any beans no matter who tells them to.

"It's not going to be in the best hands".. Some will remember this.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: JKLTO

Might be important to note that the term "biologics" doesn't necessarily mean "bodies", or even body parts (ie. limbs, organs, etc.).

"Biologics" could" refer to any non-inorganic material which could include tissue(s), or even tissue-like structures interfacing with, or acting as, control systems.

Interdimensional humanoid ectoplasm

Maybe! 😆

Assuming what the whistleblowers are talking about is accurate and there really are beings of extraterrestrial origin who've made an effort to visit Earth, in the flesh...then I'm like 99.999999% certain that any such entities are either fully interdimensional, or are of the same dimension as us but are capable of interdimensional travel.

I say this because I just don't believe that physical/material/velocity-based FTL travel is possible - in truth, I have serious doubts about the realistic viability of anything that would violate FTL across large distances, including interdimensional shortcuts. As such, the idea that any race of intelligent beings would ever make such a journey across the (presumably vast) distances of space just to dick around on Earth just seems utterly ludicrous, if not outright impossible.

Even at light speed travel, it would take beings from another star system several years - if not decades, centuries, or eons - to reach us, and the resources needed for such a visit would seemingly have to be much larger than anything that we can currently envision. At extremely fast, relativistic, but sub-light speed travel, any being on course to Earth from another system would be looking at several decades or centuries at the absolute minimum, and literally tens if not hundreds of thousands or millions of years just within our local group alone.

That's just way too far for actual physical entities to travel imo - regardlessof their level technology. As such, if we really are being visited by ETs, then these beings most realistically either:

1) Come from a parallel dimension / universe that "overlaps" with our own

2) Originate within our Solar System, with bases on the Moon or Antarctica

3) Oririginate on Earth, but are "biologically alien"

If we're dealing with Option 1, then any such beings would probably be utilizing some kind of rift that would allow them to bridge dimensions. If this separate dimension is spatially superimposed over our own, then traveling between this rift wouldn't violate the limit of lightspeed travel - for all I know, their realm could look just like Earth and occupied the same point in reality, and phasing between the two might be more or less instantaneous - but, that's obviously speculative. Although I'm not a religious type, I also wouldn't rule out the possibility of these types of entities being literal demons or angels - or something that would at least strongly align with traditional (and perhaps accurate) depictions of such beings.

With the 2nd Option, I think we're probably looking at beings who occupy the Moon, or some other relatively close, massive object - whether or not they would actually natively originate from the Moon or nearby object, or are simply utilizing these locations as temporary/periodic base(s) of operations is another question entirely. Either way, the Moon would be a very practical place from which to study Earth - especially if ETs were interested in performing manned expeditions to and from our planet's sky and surface. Antarctica would also be ideal, especially if they these beings are interested in living here full time, as it were.

And, with Option 3, we've got the emergence of terrestrial, likely sub-surface life that is so evolutionarily distinct from us that they may as well be alien (humanoid ectoplasm!) If these beings emerged from an entirely separate abiogenesis, then that their DNA (or whatever would constitute their genetic structure) would be 100% different from anything that we know of in our own biosphere, and we would thus have no common ancestor. Although it's doubtful that a shadow biosphere of that magnitude could exist for so long without detection, we've also barely dug below the surface of the Earth - like, not even a mile - so I think it's definitely worth considering that possibility.

I could go on for days about the "less likely" options, but I've already written far more than I intended, so I think I'll leave it at that for now.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Are you sure about that? There are many religions and many sects of these religions and they believe various things. Most the Christians I know dont disbelieve that God created other worlds. It's not mentioned in the Bible. But Christians do not believe angels nor demons came from Earth, so they do believe in extraterrestrials by definition.

I can't speak in depth about other religions, but I have spoken to Muslims, in their own country about ET, and they very much have stories and wonders and do not find it against the Koran. Inshalla If Allah wills it, there will be ETs.

I always find it amusing when someone grumbles about religion.

I can be complete at ease and comfortable in any place of worship on Earth. Can you?