LIVE: Congress holds UFO hearing.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

For your entertainment….


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originally posted by: quintessentone

What are they trying to distract us from?

I think distraction is just one of the viable features of this operation.

Think about it: If any country were to set itself up as having some truth to one of the greatest existential questions we humans have (Are we alone?) then the social-engineering possibilities are powerful and vast.

originally posted by: The GUT

originally posted by: quintessentone

What are they trying to distract us from?

I think distraction is just one of the viable features of this operation.

Think about it: If any country were to set itself up as having some truth to one of the greatest existential questions we humans have (Are we alone?) then the social-engineering possibilities are powerful and vast.

Think about this: if we free up all that money going to the war machine what possibilities in scientific, sociological and technological advancements can be had?

a reply to: quintessentone

I literally think about that just about every day. Kind of why I'm here,

An aging Captain Kirk and his thoughts of the Hearing and beyond.



Captain Kirk is my fav Star Trek Captain……but I’m not totally onboard with some of his points of view, as a plain o’l actor.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

The AA fanatics are going to crucify him. He will be banished from their show.

I thought he was going to say when he went through that litany of coming all the way here...I thought he would say crashing, not what he said about they would have advertised themselves.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
An aging Captain Kirk and his thoughts of the Hearing and beyond.

Captain Kirk is my fav Star Trek Captain……but I’m not totally onboard with some of his points of view, as a plain o’l actor.

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Coming from an actor whose whole life’s purpose is ‘to be known’, it figures he would say something like that.

Looks like all the years he’s spent acting the parts, didn’t get him very knowledgeable on the topic.

I can think of plenty reasons why aliens wouldn’t want to be prevalent.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I don't trust people that can be paid to say any thing.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Not a trekky fan at all. I guess simply another opinion.

originally posted by: quintessentone

Hey Mirageman, just read Knapp's statement and do you know does, or has, Russia ever been transparent or disclosed what intel they have on UFO/UAPs to the world? Maybe we have to look elsewhere for the truth.

Not really, not when supposed Western democracies aren't entirely transparent. Why would a totaltarian state be?

But there are some cases that have surfaced from the old Soviet Union and the former Eastern Bloc.

Knapp was involved with this one.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

There's always someone that has to Shatner all over the thread isn't there?

MM….From Congress to Shatner to Smirnoff….😆

Was this ever fully debunked……if it was seen as a hoax?

It might have been before I joined ATS….


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a reply to: Spacespider
Thank you for this great thread. It's the only way I have had to keep up with this topic and I have enjoyed all of the info posted here.

I tend to believe it is a distraction however I think you are right about it being a good time to reveal themselves.
Any new information would be exciting as well!!!!

Here is the latest from Leslie Keans Facebook.

David and his lawyer to talk. Missed it.

m.facebook.com...

a reply to: ArMaP

Here’s the Trojan Horse…..

Dialogue from the Hearing….

Luna: You received prior approval from the Defense Department to speak on certain issues correct?

Grusch: Correct, through dodpser, DOD, propagation, and security review.

And I just want to remind the public they're just looking from a security perspective.

These are my own personal views and opinions, not the departments.

Luna: I'm asking that mainly because I think that there are many people that would like to discredit you. So it does bring a certain amount of credibility to your testimony.

Grusch: I'm required by law to do that as a former intelligence officer or I go to jail for revealing classified information.

Luna: Yeah, we don't want you to go to jail.

Essentially no proof as it turned out…

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originally posted by: Baablacksheep
Here is the latest from Leslie Keans Facebook.

David and his lawyer to talk. Missed it.

m.facebook.com...

Here ya go…..

twitter.com...

I got nothing useful out of that Q&A……

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Instead of starting a new thread……I’m posting a 1hr podcast Between Robert Salas and Tim Ventura (of lifter fame) ……

Although Robert Salas was not a witness at the hearing, this June/July podcast precedes it.

The podcast by the request of Tim starts off with Salas recounting his experience at Malmstrom’s nuclear missile sites.

But then the rest is about his take on Grusch and AARO. He doesn’t have any confidence in AARO…he mentions within the video.

Some dialogue…..from Salas…also speaking about Schindel from Minot.

Mr. Schindele has given his testimony to AARO and had been well-documented.

Mr. Schindele has said nuclear weapons were stored so there is very definitely a link between UFOs and nuclear weapons and those that I had just mentioned ……the 30 had been well-documented.

Mr. Schindele has given his testimony to AARO as have I.

These are official historical records now.

There's no avoiding the fact that Schindele and I have given details to the AARO group, AARO organization and the US government about the fact that nuclear weapons had been disabled during UFO encounters. I just wanted to make that point.

Salas makes some interesting observations pre-congressional Hearing…including the upcoming 2024 National Defense Act.


If this vid was previously posted in another thread….a thousand pardons

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1


Thankyou Ophi. The bottom line it will reach others outside of UFOlogy I guess. For me personally well I remain a bit like that wise old owl. It's where all this will go that might eventually be interesting. Anyway as said before waiting for the conferences and the millions of podcasts.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Didn't he go a bit flakey over the years. Just an observation.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Perhaps…..as we all fall apart in our own ways nearing the end of our shelf life…..I found Salas to be quite coherent……the question is…for how much longer.

Imo…at his present rate of dying…..I suspect he has a bit to go….but get his thinking while you can before mental degradation becomes apparent.

Welp you know what time zone I’m in……🥱😴

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