LIVE: Congress holds UFO hearing.

a reply to: andre18

That comment was amusing to me.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Thankyou Ophi once again. I noticed Nick too.


I'm adding this one with Nick waffling. He mentions Biologics.


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I found this verbatim dialogue to be somewhat revealing…..

Mace: Okay, so and you may or may not be able to answer my last question and maybe we get into a SCIF at the next hearing that we have, but who in the government either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs either in a public setting or even in a private setting and you probably can't name names, but what agencies, organizations, contractors, etc. do we need to call in to get these questions answered? What about funding, what programs are happening and what's out there?

Grusch: I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those.

Mace: And how soon can we get that list?

Grusch: I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing.

Mace: Super, thank you and I yield back.

….notice there were no strings attached to this request. Grusch didn’t say that he could only provide what she requested…..in a SCIF, closed environment.

That says to me….that that list would become part of the congressional record….BUT….also for public viewing…..imo.

If that’s the case….it would be nice to see the list of cooperative and hostile witnesses.

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…..interestingly……a point made in the post hearing News Nation vid….

There’s no way to contact AARO!

No phone ….no email….no website

It’s Twitter page hasn’t be updated since they first put up a Twitter page.


How the bajesus is anyone able to make reports? Military or civilian….

I can’t believe this is an ‘Internal Only’ government office…..then what good are they to the Joe Blows of the country, of the world when they experience a sighting or landing or beings….from the 1st Kind to the 5th Kind.

AARO appears to be a “Shell Storefront Window Dressing” office.

What’s up with that?

It was set up to be the office for centralizing reports…….

No wonder Graves, Fravor and Grusch would like to see yet another office for centralizing reports to be investigated.

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
I found this verbatim dialogue to be somewhat revealing…..

Mace: Okay, so and you may or may not be able to answer my last question and maybe we get into a SCIF at the next hearing that we have, but who in the government either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs either in a public setting or even in a private setting and you probably can't name names, but what agencies, organizations, contractors, etc. do we need to call in to get these questions answered? What about funding, what programs are happening and what's out there?

Grusch: I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those.

Mace: And how soon can we get that list?

Grusch: I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing.

Mace: Super, thank you and I yield back.

….notice there were no strings attached to this request. Grusch didn’t say that he could only provide what she requested…..in a SCIF, closed environment.

That says to me….that that list would become part of the congressional record….BUT….also for public viewing…..imo.

If that’s the case….it would be nice to see the list of cooperative and hostile witnesses.

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"Not classified" I therefore presume and, as such, another curious item that could be suggestive.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

You make a good point, but I think it's just a wording oversight. Certainly, she won’t get a list that she can reveal to the public.

Speculative, obviously.....

"Bio-logics" to me could indicate a machine, like a computer (logic), that is manifested in our environment using transmitted data to use living cells (bio) of some kind that form into something that can control elements built from our physical world using more of the transmitted data which then renders things undefinable to us and seemingly far more evolved from our physical historical point of study even though they are native. A "drone" or "Probe" is the result.

The ability to interact in ways we find hard to comprehend is maybe because their evolution and understanding of physics and environment affords a superior control of our world because the hard work has been done by more primative methods like actually sending their own physical things here first. This would explain the vast acceleration of the evolution in what we are now (allegedly) experiencing with sightings, as all that is needed is to transmit data (light speed +) from their origin to here.

Analogue travel to Earth became obsolete when digital became possible after initial visits to confirm the target and it's characteristics.

Perhaps there is also more than a single source for the data as the information is passed between travellers which is why reports are so varied. Maybe "they" are like toursists who visit the same place but come from many places and look and behave differently.

Oppenheimer started it perhaps by sending such a big signal as a marker for what lead to an influx of scrutiny and ultimately may explain their interest in nuclear weapons and a wish to reduce now unneeded interference by the deactivation of missiles now the target which is Earth is "locked".

Where the data originally comes from may be the biggest mystery that ALL sides cannot fathom out which is why there is the fear and secrecy that needs to be in place to control the scenario until more is understood.

Bloody metaphysical tourists!

originally posted by: Jukiodone
The mental gymnastics some people are using on this topic is astounding.

Complement accepted.

And the U.S. is only one location for these interlopers. Here's a good one for ya...

originally posted by: quintessentone
Except we need to find an Earth II because this one is cooked.

Precisely why "they" could be coming here.

Be careful what you wish for.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Hi Ophi, so at 1:00:42 on the vid the Head of AARO (Kirkpatrick) put out a statement that they have not found any credible evidence to support the allegations of any reverse technology program for non-human technology. Back to square one?

a reply to: nerbot

I am not convinced by the Pentyrch story at all. It occurred in an area less than 10 miles from the Welsh Capital City, Cardiff, all while the military were taking part in Exercise Chameleon. But that's probably for a different thread.

a reply to: quintessentone

I still think he’s lacking the title 50 Clearance that may have supplied him with proof otherwise.

I can’t overemphasis how important it is to have both Title 10 & 50 clearances…..especially the title 50…it’s the Goldn Ticket!

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originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Hi Ophi, so at 1:00:42 on the vid the Head of AARO (Kirkpatrick) put out a statement that they have not found any credible evidence to support the allegations of any reverse technology program for non-human technology. Back to square one?

Well, doesn't Grusch suppose to give him or show him the evidence?

Is this all about the right hand not knowing what the left is doing or something way stupider?

a reply to: introufo

I still think ego’s are involved and part of the problem.

Grusch, Graves and Fravor went around him and not through him…..as it should have been procedure ..,to do so first.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Maybe.

Whatever the case, the public, the non-ufo folks (we ufo veterans are used to this double talk) must be very confused.

It makes the clear picture of Grusch lying or exaggerating some rumors he heard or there are no ufo secrets.

Ahhhhhhh yes…..from yesteryear….good Ol FlipFlopping ..Buzz


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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Are you inserting the background music in the vids you post? lol

So the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing due to ego, clearance levels, rumours ... the list goes on.

The chairman presiding of the Hearing speaks……apparently he’s jumping on the UAP bandwagon…..

Source: After UFO hearing, Wisconsin Rep. Glenn Grothman calls for declassifying military documents

U.S. Rep. Glenn Grothman, R-Glenbeulah, chaired last week's House hearing on "unidentified anomalous phenomena," or UAPs, at which a former intelligence official claimed the U.S. government was concealing evidence of alien life. David Grusch, a former Air Force intelligence officer, told Congress he had learned of "a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program." Grusch, who has been characterized as a whistleblower, did not offer evidence for his claims and declined to answer some questions from committee members, saying it would involve classified material.

The hearing was fodder for wild speculation online, though officials with NASA and the Pentagon have said they do not have evidence of extraterrestrial materials, let alone beings.

Appearing Friday on Wisconsin Public Radio's "Central Time," Grothman acknowledged that the hearing had by far the most public interest of any he's seen recently. And he said there is a legitimate public interest in understanding what the government knows about UAPs that have been spotted. "Is it something that other nations have developed that we are nowhere near developing? We ought to know that," Grothman said. "And if it is something from outer space, and there are other people monitoring us, well, we ought to know that." Grothman said he wants to see "a little more transparency from the military" on the matter.

The more ……..the merrier!

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1
Thanks re your post Ophi.


I'm also waiting for all the UFO conferences that David Grusch will be speaking at. Maybe there will be a book to come also. Though we are still waiting re Zondos book, the bombshell one.

I'm on a popcorn diet just now low sodium and no sugar, so have to go easy on the refills.

Grusch is out of the headlines. Will that continue, or will there be any ufo ramifications supporting disclosure?
I don’t think so.

Will he fade away? And go into the ufo hall of Fame along with Elizondo and Delonge but never really get confirmation from his legal whistleblower complaint?

I think that his IG complaint will be glossed over, whitewashed, or blackwashed, and nothing will come of it.

The only thing that may happen is some congressional bill to get better access to classified information.

In that bill, there will be an outlet for the IC to be able to suppress anything they want.

So then, where will we be?

Just where we started, the only disclosure progress will be the US gov admitting they don't know, nor can do, anything about ufos.

That is the extent of this disclosure.