Breaking, Supreme Court shuts down Race Based Admission

a reply to: Edumakated

A kid raised in housing projects may have a better shot than a kid whose parents are both doctors.

AND this is why we are failing as a nation.

I would rather have a doctor that has a history of doctors in the family and knows what it takes to succeed, than someone that has a failure as parents.


But the reality is nobody should be picked based on their parents or where they live. Maybe how colleges have picked is all wrong and that is why the US ranks 14 in the world for higher learning!!!!


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originally posted by: JAGStorm
About freaking time!

www.yahoo.com...

June 29 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday struck down race-conscious student admissions programs currently used at Harvard University and the University of North Carolina in a sharp setback to affirmative action policies often used increase the number of Black, Hispanic and other underrepresented minority groups on campuses.

You know where the US went wrong, when we wanted to be “fair”
Well guess what, the world isn’t fair. It’s dog eat dog, we need the toughest, the brightest, the ones that will work hardest, the ones that will sacrifice.

What we don’t need
Admission based on skin color
Admission because how you were raised
Admission because you come from a broken family

I disagree with you on a couple of your points, Jag. Mainly, where the "US went wrong".

It went wrong when Democrats realized they could buy votes.
It has been shown numerous times, their policies and laws actually HURT low income minorities more than help.

This is mainly due to the simple fact that the White Leftist is probably the most racist people in America.
They honestly believe that minorities are less, not as smart and can't possibly handle life without the White Leftist to protect them.

Meanwhile, the lower income minority family structure, dropout rate, income and teen pregnancy have skyrocketed.
I honestly believe if the White Leftist would just get out of the way, treat minorities like Americans instead of a skin color, they would flourish.
This won't happen because they are more afraid of losing their voter base than the actual lives of people.

Just my opinion.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Uh, you have to realize that as far as the actual Colleges and Universities, this means nothing. They will find and engineer a work around. They always have, they always will.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: JAGStorm

Uh, you have to realize that as far as the actual Colleges and Universities, this means nothing. They will find and engineer a work around. They always have, they always will.

That is true, but there is already backlash. There are huge swaths of people that are rethinking college all together.
We’ll see how that pans out.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAGStorm

Regardless of anyone's opinions, this will provide fodder for the left to pack the court.

And they will after their win in 2024.

Good, now they also need to tackle wealthy donations as a form of admissions.

If only smarts and competence are to be judged in a merit-like admissions process, then neither race, nor wealth should be looked at.

a reply to: Mahogany

It'll be hard to knock down that wealth wall.
It's been in place far, FAR longer than affirmative action.

Twitter is melting down with the fact that Clarence Thomas wrote the opinion.

Maybe he got sick of the AA hires placed on the court via Obama and Biden?

a reply to: JAGStorm

I agree totally. Public scholarships on merit. All private scholarships are free speech.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
Twitter is melting down with the fact that Clarence Thomas wrote the opinion.

Maybe he got sick of the AA hires placed on the court via Obama and Biden?

The left is losing it because entrance may be merit-based now?

lol

a reply to: DBCowboy

The left is losing it because entrance may be merit-based now? lol

There are a lot of people that are in the middle. The problem is that both the left and right are nuts and the middle doesn’t identity with either. The people closer to the middle are also boring and not news worthy.

a reply to: JAGStorm
Good. Sad it was even an issue to begin with. So called 'race based' admission sounds racist to me , affirmative racisim.
Even though they want to virtue signal and be 'fair' . Someone capable is capable without their skin color.
Next , they need to do the same for gender-based admission.
I would never want to be hired for a job or admitted to some campus simply for being female.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: DBCowboy

The left is losing it because entrance may be merit-based now? lol

There are a lot of people that are in the middle. The problem is that both the left and right are nuts and the middle doesn’t identity with either. The people closer to the middle are also boring and not news worthy.

I think the so called 'left' and 'right' have more in common than not . It's the MSM, politicians, colleges etc that cause this divide , and on purpose. Divide and conquer and all The 'middle' is most of us and we are being brainwashed/misled to believe otherwise
The extreme 'left' and extreme 'right' get coverage on MSM, making most in the middle agree then they are certainly not like the 'other party', even though in reality they are just middle .

Does this means it will be 90% asians in top-tier schools now?

a reply to: Quadrivium

Somehow I don't think liberal ideals and policies is whats holding back low-income minority communities.

a reply to: JAGStorm

As Ive often said, I'm a centrist, everyone hates me.

a reply to: Turquosie

As long as they are Americans and fill the upcoming employment needs of the US, I say WONDERFUL.

originally posted by: Turquosie
Does this means it will be 90% asians in top-tier schools now?

No it will mean students that should be there will be there and it won't be based on their skin color period.

a reply to: Turquosie

Silly rabbit! You know those spots mainly go to the children of legacies and donors. This ruling didn't end affirmative action. It just ended it for people who aren't predominantly wealthy and white.

a reply to: JAGStorm

www.usatoday.com...

Love this!

Chief Justice John Roberts, long a skeptic of race-based policies, wrote that too many universities "have concluded, wrongly, that the touchstone of an individual’s identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned but the color of their skin." The nation's constitutional history, he wrote, "does not tolerate that choice."