FSB Starts criminal proceedings against Prigozhin for "the Organization of Armed Insurrection"

a reply to: gortex

If they have any sorts of smarts or will to live.

The majority will be thinking.

Keysies up keysies down, magic circles all around.

The game's a bogey.

Home time lads.

Feck anymore of us dying for those sad bastards failed wet-dream.

Right now, several Russian generals will be #ting themselves.
"Do I join Wagner and liberate Russia, or not."
If it all goes well, he'll be a hero, if it doesn't, his whole family will be wiped out.
"Treason doth not prosper, what's the reason? For if it prospers, none dare call it treason"
It's not an armed mutiny, as the BBC are calling it here.
People, the army, the oligarchs are all sick of Putin.

Medvedev being a drama queen again.

Former president Dmitry Medvedev has said the world will be on the brink of catastrophe if Russian nuclear weapons fall into the hands of Wagner "bandits".

Because the World isn't already on the brink of Nuclear catastrophe , Wagner have no intention of gaining Nukes their aim is to get rid of the likes of YOU !

a reply to: andy1972

To be, or not to be, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing end them. To die—to sleep,
No more;

Springs to mind.

www.poetryfoundation.org...

Girkin stated the Wagner advance guard has reached the area of Kashira, some 125 kilometers from Moscow.

Cheers

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: putnam6

I wonder what it's like behind Russian lines in Ukraine at the moment , they must be aware what's going on , are we nearing a time where we start seeing Commanders and soldiers saying "F this for a game of soldiers" and getting out of Dodge ?

Last time we saw or heard from Putin was this morning then a mystery plane left Moscow , but I'm sure he's still in the Kremlin ... in spirit.

Exactly, I could see Ukrainian troops having a renewed push as well.

TASS is stressing all leadership including Putin are at work at the Kremlin, but of course, they would say that.

Im listening here to a number of correspondents on Twitter

twitter.com...

they mentioned crazy exchange rate rubles to dollar, is this true?



Reports of 8 total Russian Federation aircraft shot down so far, by Wagner most ever in a 24 hour period the whole SMO.

Russia in mining bridges approaching Moscow

a reply to: andy06shake

Ay.

"No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to: 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep, perchance to dream—ay, there's the rub:
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause—there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life.
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
Th'oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of dispriz'd love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of th'unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? Who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovere'd country, from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?"

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Did you miss the bit where that dam was blown by Russia?

"What type of government does that to essentially their own people in the 21st century?!?!"

Russia?

Ya Russia blew up that Dam, that Ukraine built to keep fresh water away from the Crimean people, about week into the invasion, way back in March of 2021.

Why would you ask me if I missed that? I'm confused why you would ask me that? I just mentioned a couple of the other reasons why Russia invaded in the first place and one of the reasons was to get rid of that Ukrainian dam and get the fresh water free flowing into Crimea again for the people and the farmers.

Ukraine had essentially put the Crimean farmers out of work for many years and took away one of the big industries in Crimea and more importantly Ukraine took away one of Crimeas main food supplies by not allowing fresh water to flow freely into Crimea.

a reply to: andy06shake

Did you get Russian Apologist Bingo! as well from that list?
Outdoor mass events have been suspended in Moscow until July 1.

originally posted by: gortex
Medvedev being a drama queen again.

Former president Dmitry Medvedev has said the world will be on the brink of catastrophe if Russian nuclear weapons fall into the hands of Wagner "bandits".

Because the World isn't already on the brink of Nuclear catastrophe , Wagner have no intention of gaining Nukes their aim is to get rid of the likes of YOU !

If they don't have the numbers to do it conventionally, nukes or the threat of nukes could be their only hope. I wouldn't put so much faith in these mercs. They're no better than Putin. I don't trust either side to not use nukes if the situation gets dire enough.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: andy1972

To be, or not to be, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing end them. To die—to sleep,
No more;

Springs to mind.

www.poetryfoundation.org...

This quote is actually a referal to suicide....

a reply to: putnam6

Seems it started taking a tumble on June 22nd.
www.google.com...

I guess Monday trading will be interesting.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2


"What type of government does that to essentially their own people in the 21st century?!?!"

Russia?

Russia never built any dams to keep fresh water away from their own people, that was the Ukrainian government doing it to the people of Crimea for many years

a reply to: andy1972

Which the Russian generals may well be committing should they decide to toe the wrong line.

Essentially Hamlet's(Shakespeare's) words pertain to live or not to live, so the quote is about life and death, or so im lead to believe.

Decisions decisions eh?

a reply to: face23785

Thing is who are they going to Nuke , Ukraine , Russia , the West ?

The claim makes no sense to me , the fact they seem to be meeting little residence on their journey to Moscow indicates either the Russian military is with them and letting them through or the Kremlin is allowing them through to fall into a trap , even money on either scenario at the moment I think.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Really?

No. It was completed in....1956.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

Why spout this guff?

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: putnam6

Seems it started taking a tumble on June 22nd.
www.google.com...

I guess Monday trading will be interesting.

Id say...

Hell, if the ruble collapses that much against the dollar, Prigoshin won't have to remove Putin.

unconfirmed reports of bridges being blown...internet connections to Russia slow

a reply to: putnam6

Wonder if there will soon be reports of mountains of documents being burned.

Cheers

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Or even rebuilt, because Russia blew up the predecessor, without any sort of warning during Operation Barbarossa in an attempt to halt the Nazi German invasion which cost the poor Ukrainians of the time 25,000 men women, and children or thereabouts.

Then you have the likes of Holodomor.

Does anybody see a pattern forming here regarding Russia killing Ukrainians?

Methinks so and then some.