Knew This Was Coming

a reply to: quintessentone

LOL, yea, I've been working on this for decades, just waiting for the right time to spring my plan into action. DERP.

I don't think people should be lying to mentally ill people, but if they are adults, and you are OK with lying to them, go nuts. But a good few of us perked up when dudes in dresses started beating up on chicks. And then when they started going after the kids, we said this has to stop.

Currently, all that's being done is talk. But the harder this thing is pushed, the crazies will come out, and they aren't controllable. This is inevitable. Not my idea, and not me doing it, just me pointing it out.

It's a shame sanity is such a rare commodity. I'd bet the tiny little rational person on your shoulder agrees. You just can't hear him over the nutjob on the other side screaming how mutilating kids is perfectly normal.

a reply to: quintessentone

This is sad to me but for different reasons than you may think.
1) this is why I disapprove of open borders and the current immigration issues in the US. ALL these people want a better life but none are willing to stay home and fight.
In the instance of people coming to America, that is creating weakness in the American public, this will have detrimental effect on American politics, we need people who are willing to stand up and fight for their rights, not run away.
2) this is an assumption I have, that most of these people are basing their decision on the divisive and deceptive politics. Most of the laws and bills i have studied, like the "dont say gay" bill, do NOT have anything to do with anti trans/gay ideas. this is media and political deception creating hate in the US

hate to see you go but, to coint a term "BYE Felicia"...
if your not gonna educate yourself and stand up for yourselves, your NOT gonna find change anywhere, you cant run from your problems.

This is nothing new and bound to happen given the push for trans acceptance among children.

These types of claims and examinations have happened in professional women's sports for ages. The Chinese and Russians were accused of using men in female sports in the Olympics on multiple occassions going back like 100 years. Most recently, there was a female track star, Caster Semenya who was accused of being a man after dominating 2009 World Championships in track.

The big issue is that just because you call yourself a girl, does not make you a girl physically. Trans activist cannot ignore this point. Men are naturally stronger than women. Period.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

LOL, yea, I've been working on this for decades, just waiting for the right time to spring my plan into action. DERP.

I don't think people should be lying to mentally ill people, but if they are adults, and you are OK with lying to them, go nuts. But a good few of us perked up when dudes in dresses started beating up on chicks. And then when they started going after the kids, we said this has to stop.

Currently, all that's being done is talk. But the harder this thing is pushed, the crazies will come out, and they aren't controllable. This is inevitable. Not my idea, and not me doing it, just me pointing it out.

It's a shame sanity is such a rare commodity. I'd bet the tiny little rational person on your shoulder agrees. You just can't hear him over the nutjob on the other side screaming how mutilating kids is perfectly normal.

It's not the lying it's the persecution. DERP

a reply to: frogs453

The grandparents should have been removed and banned.

These sports need to verify or accept at the beginning of the season and that’s it.
I don’t care what side you are on, humiliating these kids while everyone watches is as cruel as it gets.

Checking children’s private areas is not acceptable, period.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

LOL, yea, I've been working on this for decades, just waiting for the right time to spring my plan into action. DERP.

I don't think people should be lying to mentally ill people, but if they are adults, and you are OK with lying to them, go nuts. But a good few of us perked up when dudes in dresses started beating up on chicks. And then when they started going after the kids, we said this has to stop.

Currently, all that's being done is talk. But the harder this thing is pushed, the crazies will come out, and they aren't controllable. This is inevitable. Not my idea, and not me doing it, just me pointing it out.

It's a shame sanity is such a rare commodity. I'd bet the tiny little rational person on your shoulder agrees. You just can't hear him over the nutjob on the other side screaming how mutilating kids is perfectly normal.

It's not the lying it's the persecution. DERP

You are correct. One side persecuted the other to the point that the other side is beginning to push back against it. You fail to see that you created the enemy you said was there all along.

a reply to: quintessentone

no sunshine. It's the lying. telling a dude in a dress that he can become a woman is a lie. telling a chick that by getting an outie and lopping off her breasts, she can become a man is lying. Adults should know better, though they may not. Kids however, rely on us to guide them and NOT lie to them about really important things like this.

I get it, I'm an easy target for your anger. It's difficult to come to terms with the part where you are wrong and know it.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude

Pushing? One of the states that enacted a law like this has over 150,000 student athletes of which 10, a whole 10 are transgender. So a law like this has to be enacted? Talk about clown world. The likelihood that a non trans child will have to have their genitals inspected is a heck of a lot higher than the kid would actually be trans. But hey if you're OK with your daughter or granddaughter being subjected to it because she may be a great athlete and it makes her opponents parent mad. That's on you.

Not sure if this is a strawman argument but it has all the symptoms of a strawman argument. First of all the non-transgender participants should be able to produce a birth certificate showing they are indeed of the proper gender. Or Im missing where you are coming from on this?

I just don't see kids getting checked because a parent yells at a sporting event, a schools interaction with children is a bit more structured

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

no sunshine. It's the lying. telling a dude in a dress that he can become a woman is a lie. telling a chick that by getting an outie and lopping off her breasts, she can become a man is lying. Adults should know better, though they may not. Kids however, rely on us to guide them and NOT lie to them about really important things like this.

I get it, I'm an easy target for your anger. It's difficult to come to terms with the part where you are wrong and know it.

Ain't no sunshine where the sun don't shine.

Those trying to help trans people don't have the correct answers nor the correct treatments...they are stumbling in the dark that is why more research is so desperately needed. In the meantime, suicide is not an option, so here we are.

It is very difficult to come to terms with the reality that trans people are actually feeling something non-trans can never experience nor understand. In the meantime, let's hate on them because that's what we do when we who are not scientists nor doctors nor anyone working in any transgender research because that's all we know.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Wow. It must be nice to have that high and mighty perch you seem to sit on lately. So there's no need for a doctor to examine and child's genitals then? Because that's who does the exam. And don't try "but that's different". No it's not. It's a damn doctor performed exam that has happened for decades at least.

a reply to: frogs453

My point is that there is nothing to stop a parent from making these accusations for whatever reason and especially if their child loses a game, a match, a tournament and with more and more laws being enacted, such as yesterday a veto overturned in Ohio, which will allow subjecting a young child to genital inspections is awful.

You make the perfect case for ending and banning Schools sponsored sports and sporting events. By ending these sports programs, the schools would save hundreds of millions of dollars across the country. There are numerous GOOD reasons to end these sports programs; the transgender problem, the problem of differently abled kids; the promotion of privilge of tall, fit kids over the short, fat kids, etc.

Another good outcome of ending these sports programs is that the awful, obnoxious parents would no longer be at each other's throats during events.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

no sunshine. It's the lying. telling a dude in a dress that he can become a woman is a lie. telling a chick that by getting an outie and lopping off her breasts, she can become a man is lying. Adults should know better, though they may not. Kids however, rely on us to guide them and NOT lie to them about really important things like this.

I get it, I'm an easy target for your anger. It's difficult to come to terms with the part where you are wrong and know it.

Ain't no sunshine where the sun don't shine.

Those trying to help trans people don't have the correct answers nor the correct treatments...they are stumbling in the dark that is why more research is so desperately needed. In the meantime, suicide is not an option, so here we are.

It is very difficult to come to terms with the reality that trans people are actually feeling something non-trans can never experience nor understand. In the meantime, let's hate on them because that's what we do when we who are not scientists nor doctors nor anyone working in any transgender research because that's all we know.

if there was a prize for best drama queen, you'd have my vote.

I know zero trans people in real life. I have never spoke to a trans person in real life. (That I know of) and I don't go to events that would subject me to that lifestyle. So my online rants end right there. I just have an opinion. Please keep that in mind when you post. I'd hate for you to pop an aneurysm over something that's not reality based.

Be you and be happy, just leave the damn kids alone, K?

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

no sunshine. It's the lying. telling a dude in a dress that he can become a woman is a lie. telling a chick that by getting an outie and lopping off her breasts, she can become a man is lying. Adults should know better, though they may not. Kids however, rely on us to guide them and NOT lie to them about really important things like this.

I get it, I'm an easy target for your anger. It's difficult to come to terms with the part where you are wrong and know it.

Ain't no sunshine where the sun don't shine.

Those trying to help trans people don't have the correct answers nor the correct treatments...they are stumbling in the dark that is why more research is so desperately needed. In the meantime, suicide is not an option, so here we are.

It is very difficult to come to terms with the reality that trans people are actually feeling something non-trans can never experience nor understand. In the meantime, let's hate on them because that's what we do when we who are not scientists nor doctors nor anyone working in any transgender research because that's all we know.

if there was a prize for best drama queen, you'd have my vote.

I know zero trans people in real life. I have never spoke to a trans person in real life. (That I know of) and I don't go to events that would subject me to that lifestyle. So my online rants end right there. I just have an opinion. Please keep that in mind when you post. I'd hate for you to pop an aneurysm over something that's not reality based.

Be you and be happy, just leave the damn kids alone, K?

The whole point you missed again is trans haters are not leaving the kids nor any trans people alone, they are persecuting them and that is the reality.

originally posted by: boredhere74
a reply to: JAGStorm

Wow. It must be nice to have that high and mighty perch you seem to sit on lately. So there's no need for a doctor to examine and child's genitals then? Because that's who does the exam. And don't try "but that's different". No it's not. It's a damn doctor performed exam that has happened for decades at least.

ARE you kidding me, what kind of sickness is this !!! There is no NEED for a doctor to look at an ELEMENTARY school kids genitals. AND I don’t know what school you went to but I was in all kinds of sports and never once had kiddie diddlers check my parts.

a reply to: quintessentone

you are aware this is happening in Canada right? When it comes here, you can scream super loud, till then, tone it down a bit.

a reply to: JAGStorm

you never had a sports physical?

Are you aware of what men have to do for one of these?

What we pay attention to grows in importance. The more eyes on something, the bigger it gets.
There's nothing wrong with being trans or anything, but there is something sinister about perpetuating it's normalcy.

If we simply stopped paying attention to it tomorrow, it would go back to what it always used to be: a part of the human condition that impacted a minority of people's lives.

We govern by majority, not by minority.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: JAGStorm

you never had a sports physical?

Are you aware of what men have to do for one of these?

I’ve had a sports physical but never ever did they check my parts.
I also looked it up and this is what happens

Measure your blood pressure and pulse. Test your vision. Check your heart, lungs, belly, ears, nose, and throat. Check your joints, strength, flexibility, and posture.

Never ever ever did they check my parts, or my daughters parts.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: frogs453

My point is that there is nothing to stop a parent from making these accusations for whatever reason and especially if their child loses a game, a match, a tournament and with more and more laws being enacted, such as yesterday a veto overturned in Ohio, which will allow subjecting a young child to genital inspections is awful.

You make the perfect case for ending and banning Schools sponsored sports and sporting events. By ending these sports programs, the schools would save hundreds of millions of dollars across the country. There are numerous GOOD reasons to end these sports programs; the transgender problem, the problem of differently abled kids; the promotion of privilge of tall, fit kids over the short, fat kids, etc.

Another good outcome of ending these sports programs is that the awful, obnoxious parents would no longer be at each other's throats during events.

We separate males and females why not have a transgender designation? Certainly, if this is a widespread issue there will be plenty of participants in a district.

Because respectfully ending sports because we are having issues with this new situation is a gross overreaction

Sports give so many kids an opportunity they wouldn't have

It instills discipline and teamwork and social skills and keeps teenage males from being raving lunatics, seriously haven't you heard "burn off some steam"? You think every teen problems are bad now, take away sports it increases dramatically

Im all for protecting kids but taking sports away from 97% because 3% of these conflicted, confused, and troubled kids can't find a spot on the girls' swim team, is an utterly ridiculous notion.

I say that knowing the health issues with high school football. The positives significantly outweigh the negatives

a reply to: quintessentone

Who is trying to help trans people? other than the community itself and a few bad actors?
What research do you think would help? there is already research on the topic but it is largely ignored
Mayo clinic-Percocious puberty

This is the term used when deciding to issue hormone blockers, but i can be shown that hormone blockers are not the solution and they do not address the underlying medical causes:

A tumor in the brain or spinal cord (central nervous system)
A defect in the brain present at birth, such as excess fluid buildup (hydrocephalus) or a noncancerous tumor (hamartoma)
Radiation to the brain or spinal cord
Injury to the brain or spinal cord
McCune-Albright syndrome — a rare genetic disease that affects bones and skin color and causes hormonal problems
Congenital adrenal hyperplasia — a group of genetic disorders involving abnormal hormone production by the adrenal glands
Hypothyroidism — a condition in which the thyroid gland doesn't produce enough hormones

This is deception, and clear evidence that the companies pushing hormone blockers are obfuscating the facts. Parents don't hear about the possible underlying medical causes. So when you have schools pushing to indoctrinate kids without parents consent, we have an issue!

sorry but your argument for medical research is voided by the medical research. and again the issue comes down to personal and political agendas that obfuscate and ignore the facts. so in a way you are right, the kids ARE being persecuted, leave them alone

With that said, if you want to be gay, then go for it, but leave the kids out of it, let them teach themselves what they want and believe and when they are old enough to make these types decisions they are free to do so. Leave the kids alone