Breaking: Idaho lawmakers introduce legislation to criminalize those who administer COVID vaccines

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Idaho's history with the Covid vaccinations continues as two Conservative Idaho lawmakers introduced legislation that is getting national attention. The proposed bill would prohibit medical professionals from giving the Covid shot to Idahoans. The shot debate was significant in Idaho as thousands of healthcare workers were fired for refusing to take the vaccination.

Several Idaho cities held mask-burning ceremonies protesting the health district face covering requirements. This week Senator Tammy Nicholas and Representative Judy Boyle introduced HB 154 in the House Health & Welfare Committee on Wednesday.

Here's what the bill says specifically:

"A person may not provide or administer a vaccine developed using messenger ribonucleic acid technology for use in an individual or any other mammal in this state."


The crime would be a misdemeanor and would go into effect this July. The committee voted 11-9 in favor of the bill further discussion. If the committee passes it, the bill will go to the full House for a vote

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Co-sponsored by state Sen. Tammy Nichols and Rep. Judy Boyle, House Bill 154 was introduced Feb. 15 in the House Health & Welfare Committeeand would ban all mRNA technology in the state.

If passed, the Idaho state code would be amended so that those administering mRNA vaccines to any person or mammal within the state would face misdemeanor charges.

Although the bill itself doesn't specifically mention COVID-19 vaccines,KTVB7 News reported that during Nichols' presentation to the committee she referred to the two COVID-19 mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

If passed. And if it is it would also put a stop to potential mRNA cures for, eg cancers:

"Researchers are also working on mRNA vaccines that would prevent other types of diseases, including cancer.

Small trials using mRNA-based cancer treatment vaccines have been tested for nearly a decade and some have shown "promising" early results, according to the National Cancer Institute. "

This proposed bill is not just about criminalising COVID mRNA vaccine, but all mRNA vaccines or treatments.

You want to criminalise a potential cure for cancer?

This is not joined up thinking.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

If passed. And if it is it would also put a stop to potential mRNA cures for, eg cancers:

"Researchers are also working on mRNA vaccines that would prevent other types of diseases, including cancer.

Small trials using mRNA-based cancer treatment vaccines have been tested for nearly a decade and some have shown "promising" early results, according to the National Cancer Institute. "

This proposed bill is not just about criminalising COVID mRNA vaccine, but all mRNA vaccines or treatments.

You want to criminalise a potential cure for cancer?

This is not joined up thinking.

If passed, the Idaho state code would be amended so that those administering mRNA vaccines to any person or mammal within the state would face misdemeanor charges.

Although the bill itself doesn't specifically mention COVID-19 vaccines,KTVB7 News reported that during Nichols' presentation to the committee she referred to the two COVID-19 mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna.

As per usual you shouldn't be engaging in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality and you shouldn't be defending the pharmaceuticals.

I didn't know there was a cure for cancer....or you think the use of mRNA has cured cancers?

The bill is mainly for the mRNA junk from Pfizer and Moderna.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You seem very concerned as it seems.

In another place called Florida they are trying to or limit as much as possible the mRNA 'vaccines' from Pfizer and Moderna given the history these products have causing serious harm and deaths. There is more actually coming and will be covered at another thread.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

The Bill does not actually mention COVID vaccines. It wants to criminalise all mRNA treatments and vaccines.

It is not "mainly" for what you claim.

As is evident from your own sources.

No, there is no cure for cancer and no I don't think that the use of mRNA "has cured cancers".

That's just yet another example of putting words in my mouth that I haven't said. Another straw man.

I said researchers are working on such a potential cure.

Here, from the Lancet:

www.thelancet.com...(22)00372-2/fulltext


"As per usual you shouldn't be engaging in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality and you shouldn't be defending the pharmaceuticals."

This guff, again?

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Can you stick to my actual point, please?

For once?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Can you stick to my actual point, please?

For once?

Yes, it is obvious from the bill that the mRNA pseudo-vaccines are targeted from Pfizer and Moderna. In the future whenever mRNA technology is involved the State and Health officials must be very careful not to maje the same mistakes.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

No. Your own quote from your own source as above:

"If passed, the Idaho state code would be amended so that those administering mRNA vaccines to any person or mammal within the state would face misdemeanor charges.

Although the bill itself doesn't specifically mention COVID-19 vaccines,KTVB7 News reported that during Nichols' presentation to the committee she referred to the two COVID-19 mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna."

That is your much vaunted Bill. It's not "targeted" at all.

Please read your own sources and comprehend them.

Unintended consequences.

As a lawyer, I always look at the regrettably small print.

Or, in this case, as writ large.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

No. Your own quote from your own source as above:

"If passed, the Idaho state code would be amended so that those administering mRNA vaccines to any person or mammal within the state would face misdemeanor charges.

Although the bill itself doesn't specifically mention COVID-19 vaccines,KTVB7 News reported that during Nichols' presentation to the committee she referred to the two COVID-19 mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna."

That is your much vaunted Bill. It's not "targeted" at all.

Please read your own sources and comprehend them.

Unintended consequences.

As a lawyer, I always look at the regrettably small print.

Or, in this case, as writ large.

Unless you cannot read.

Although the bill itself doesn't specifically mention COVID-19 vaccines,KTVB7 News reported that during Nichols' presentation to the committee she referred to the two COVID-19 mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna."

It says Covid-19 mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna. And it was about time it happens nationwide and everywhere else.

And legislation can me amended in the future.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

The bill itself doesn't specifically mention COVID 19 vaccines.?

Guess you have comprehension issues.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

The bill itself doesn't specifically mention COVID 19 vaccines.?

Guess you have comprehension issues.

It doesn't matter

Although the bill itself doesn't specifically mention COVID-19 vaccines,KTVB7 News reported that during Nichols' presentation to the committee she referred to the two COVID-19 mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna."

Play it safe at the moment given the threat from the mRNA products for Covid and then in the future they will see whether other mRNA vaccines can be used for other diseases.

Even if some States decide to suspend them there is no need to make them illegal. From now on what kind of fool will say yes to the products from Pfizer and Moderna for any diseases that may be used. Even if they are much safer that these ones.

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Idaho legislators introduce bill to criminalize COVID vaccine administers

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Yes, we know.

It's not been passed yet. And:

"According to the National Cancer Institute, many forms of cancer are being treated with mRNA vaccines. The NCI states that the research conducted to treat cancer patients prior to the pandemic was essential in the development of the COVID vaccine."

This bill would put a stop to this, if passed.

It's a badly thought out bit of legislation

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Yes, we know.

It's not been passed yet. And:

"According to the National Cancer Institute, many forms of cancer are being treated with mRNA vaccines. The NCI states that the research conducted to treat cancer patients prior to the pandemic was essential in the development of the COVID vaccine."

This bill would put a stop to this, if passed.

It's a badly thought out bit of legislation

The bill is for the mRNA products from Pfizer and Moderna that are used as vaccines.

Laws can be amended later on ONLY IF the products are safe and effective. Not like this junk that is sold as a miracle vaccine and has caused a range of harms and deaths.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2
Are there any mRNA vaccines for cancer actually in use now? Or are they hoping to use them soon?

The UK government announced that it is partnering with BioNTech to trial personalised cancer vaccines.

13 January 2023

Is anyone being treated with mRNA vaccines for cancer yet?

a reply to: Asmodeus3

No, it's not. From your own source:

"No person may provide or administer a vaccine made using messenger ribonucleic acid technology in this state for use on a human or any other mammal.”

Much wider than you apparently think.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

I don't think so. Still at the research stage, I believe.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2
Ok.
So I would like to see a link to where you accessed this:

"According to the National Cancer Institute, many forms of cancer are being treated with mRNA vaccines. The NCI states that the research conducted to treat cancer patients prior to the pandemic was essential in the development of the COVID vaccine."

Because it says... "many forms of cancer are being treated with mRNA vaccines"......like it's in use already.

Maybe it's a typo and should say....'are being trialled'??

a reply to: Itisnowagain

It's from the St Vincent Times link posted above.