Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 3

Latest from Warthog , Dodgy North Korean shell kills howitzer , prospective volunteers rounded up by the FSB ,an embarrassing moment for Russian police caught on camera and Lukashenko dreams of milking cows.

Meanwhile, Russia seem to have shot down one of their own very expensive KA-29 helicopters:

www.express.co.uk...

A big problem with Russia is supplies. Their guys are going many days without food and hard to find water. I don't think many wounded are being evacuated either. So, we have dead or dying, and starving Russians that Putin keeps flooding the battlefield with. I don't know if people see how crazy that is. Putin is killing more of his people in less than a month than the US lost in 20 years adding both Iraq and Afghanistan together. He is killing more in two months than 12 years of the Vietnam War.

At some point, even RT will say WTF is going on...

a reply to: Xtrozero

At some point, even RT will say WTF is going on...

Or he'll just blame it on the English as usual.

a reply to: gortex

Looks like Russia is more upset with the US at the moment.

They’re blaming the missile deaths in Crimea directly on the US.

The missiles were aimed at a military installation attacking Ukraine. Russian air defense shot it down over a beach which resulted in the death of some civilians.

Putin vowed to retaliate against the US.

Apparently Russia believes they should be able to attack Ukraine from the safety of their borders without Ukraine being able to defend themselves.

a reply to: gortex

And threaten to nuke us. Again.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Apparently Russia believes they should be able to attack Ukraine from the safety of their borders without Ukraine being able to defend themselves.

Yeah I've noticed that , it's their war so war on their terms , it's just like when Putin whines about Ukraine using Mercs while Russia uses Mercs , double standards.

23 June Update

The Islamic State (IS) Northern Caucasus branch, Wilayat Kavkaz, likely conducted a complex and coordinated attack against churches, synagogues, and law enforcement structures in the Republic of Dagestan on June 23.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) accused Ukrainian forces of conducting a short-range ATACMS strike against occupied Sevastopol on June 23.

Ukrainian forces struck a Russian motorized rifle regiment command post in Nekhoteevka, Belgorod Oblast. The Ukrainian General Staff reported on June 23 that Ukrainian Air Force elements and other Ukrainian units conducted the strike on an unspecified date (likely recently) and caused secondary explosions at the target site.

Russian forces recently seized Shumy and advanced near Donetsk City and Robotyne.

More at URL above.

Cheers

Band of Brothers ?

A video appearing to show a wounded Russian soldier being shot dead by another Russian soldier shows the "brutal culture" of Moscow's armed forces, says a US-based thinktank.

Footage shared widely on social media over the weekend shows a Russian soldier injured by a drone strike, motioning to another solider for help.

Instead, the other solider kills the wounded solider with a gunshot fired at point blank range.

He does this instead of attempting to check the soldier’s injury, attempting treatment, taking his identification tags, or attempting a casualty evacuation, said the Institute for the Study of War (ISW).
news.sky.com...

a reply to: gortex

It's OK for them to deliberately target civilians, mind. I'll see your double standards and raise you with mealy mouthed hypocrisy

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: gortex

Looks like Russia is more upset with the US at the moment.

It's all part of Putin's propaganda strategy.

Back in 2022 Ukraine advised civilians to evacuate from Crimea, indicating while they wouldn't intentionally attack civilians, they would be attacking Crimea repeatedly and that would put civilians at risk, so, civilians should leave. Many did, and property values there dropped where there were sellers but few buyers. But those who chose to stay knew they would be at risk and had fair warning.

I remember one female Russian video blogger showing her fans how much fun she was having in Crimea, when suddenly you could see incoming drones and anti-air missiles being fired, and explosions in the background. She started freaking out and said she didn't feel safe there anymore. Well, duh, that's what Ukraine has been trying to warn people of since 2022, Crimea is not safe, not even for civilians.

The ISW says it appears to be part of Russia's strategy to put civilians at risk to try to deter attacks from Ukraine. But when Ukraine attacks anyway after telling civilians to leave, it's not surprising if 4 civilians get killed. Besides, that number is dwarfed by the 10,000 to 20,000 or more civilians Russia intentionally killed in Mariupol alone, so yes Putin is two-faced on civilian casualties, and he just wants to use civilian casualties as propaganda in his information war.

Russia appears to be placing military facilities near civilian areas in Crimea to deter Ukrainian strikes, experts say

Russia is likely placing military facilities near civilian areas in Crimea to try to deter further Ukrainian strikes, military analysts said.

If the experts are right that Russia is intentionally putting civilians at risk with this strategy, then Russia is more to blame than Ukraine for the civilian deaths which result from this tactic.

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
23 June Update

"The Islamic State (IS) Northern Caucasus branch, Wilayat Kavkaz, likely conducted a complex and coordinated attack against churches, synagogues, and law enforcement structures in the Republic of Dagestan on June 23."

Welcome back F2d5th!

It was nice to see footage of Russian BMPs (armored personnel carriers) being used in Dagestan to fight their new "civil war", because every BMP they send there is one less they can use in Ukraine. They already have a shortage of BMPs in Ukraine, partly because Ukraine has destroyed so many of them, so they have been moving troops with unarmored vehicles like motorcycles and "chinese golf carts". Not much protection for the troops moving in either of those forms of transport.

Here’s a group of women in Odessa recently on a rooftop “Tiktoking” exercising with a massive smoke plume in the background

Whether “Russia is putting citizens at risk by military facilities near civilian areas” or not

Seems like some people just don’t care.

As seen in Odessa.

www.reddit.com...

a reply to: Imhere

Seems like some people just don’t care.

So you're not going to lament the tragic fate of all those poor Russian civilians this time?

I like that change in you. Let's wait for more dead Russians.

24 June Update

The European Union (EU) adopted its 14th package of sanctions against Russia on June 24, including new restrictions against Russian funding to political parties and other "opinion-forming" organizations and Russian state media broadcasts within the EU.

The EU approved a first tranche of up to 1.4 billion euros (about $1.5 billion) in military assistance for Ukraine from the proceeds of frozen Russian assets.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky replaced Joint Forces Commander Lieutenant General Yuriy Sodol with Brigadier General Andriy Hnatov on June 24.

Ukrainian forces recently regained lost positions near Vovchansk and Starysta, and Russian forces recently advanced near Siversk and Toretsk.

More at URL above.

Cheers

a reply to: gortex

Or he'll just blame it on the English as usual.

Blame Canada

www.bing.com...

The International Criminal Court has today issued arrest warrants for renowned comedy double act Shoigu & Gerasimov.

The ICC judges said the two men were suspected of committing war crimes and crimes against humanity during the war in Ukraine.

The court said there were grounds to believe that Mr Shoigu and Mr Gerasimov bore individual criminal responsibility for attacks on civilian targets between October 2022 and March 2023.

They're accused of ordering the assaults or failing to control the forces under their command.
www.bbc.co.uk...

a reply to: Xtrozero

" Newsweek summarizes of Crimean official statements of the deadly attack:

The event was caused by Russian air defenses shooting down a series of cluster warhead missiles, one of which altered course as a result. The Russian ministry of defense said that four out of the five missiles launched were shot down, adding: "Another missile, as a result of the impact of air defense systems at the final stage, deviated from the flight path with the warhead exploding in the air over the city."

"The detonation of the fragmentation warhead of the fifth American missile in the air led to numerous casualties among civilians in Sevastopol.




Let the " Spinners " Begin !

a reply to: Xtrozero



DP

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Ukraine has been having territory inside their border struck for years now.

Is Ukraine just supposed to take the licks and not hit back?

If Russia shoots some of those down and they land elsewhere it’s not like the Ukrainians aimed it there.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Ukraine has been having territory inside their border struck for years now.

Is Ukraine just supposed to take the licks and not hit back?

If Russia shoots some of those down and they land elsewhere it’s not like the Ukrainians aimed it there.

Seriously ? Beach goers are NOT Enemy Combatants .