Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 3

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
Russia's military aircraft exports are taking a nosedive.

Would those be the ones the pilot has to gaffer tape a garmin or Iphone to the control console because they don't even have GPS?
How surprising no one wants those..


Russia busy bombing more power generation sites again today-

On 22 October, a long-standing air-raid siren sounded twice throughout Ukraine (except temporarily occupied Crimea). The Russian forces struck energy facilities in many regions of Ukraine.

www.pravda.com.ua...

General David Petraeus isn't ruling out the US getting directly involved,but outside of NATO-

I think that Russia could take actions in Ukraine that would be so shocking and so horrific that the United States and other countries might react in one way or another, but as a multinational force led by the United States, not as a NATO force.

en.socportal.info...

a reply to: Kenzo

Is that what you do, attack the person, not the subject?

We really are in 10th grade here.

Well they've gone full on insane now... and by the universal law of ruZZian projection, it would seem ruZZia might do something REALLY really stupid prior to Nov 8.

When they say others are going to do something, or are doing something... its them who are doing it, they've shown this time and time again since the invasion began in their propaganda and actions on the ground (he talks about America and the west talking and preparing about the only option is nuclear, while himself talking about the only option for ruZZia is it being nuclear, the double speak is maser level delusional). How these people can live with themselves as state media propagandists and spout such dribble baffles me... no wonder the average poverty stricken ruZZian follows, when their being fed a constant back and forth mess of confusion and tact changing on a daily basis im surprised they arent all spinning like tops.

Shows their ignorance thinking a nuclear war in Europe wouldnt affect America so ergo by their thoughts America will start one (they cant be that stupid, so it therefore has to be projection), also shows their mindset about how they think the modern world works or how their world works... isolated, individual, separate. ruZZia really does live 100 years in the past.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
A gypsies warning to the Iranians?

CENTCOM commander visits US ballistic missile submarine in Arabian Sea
The announcement of the visit and the submarine's location was noted as unusual by analysts.
www.jpost.com...

An unusual occurrence but not a sign that a nuclear exchange will occur: Perhaps a signal to Putin concerning the potential ramifications of Russia employing nuclear weapons against NATO members and other U.S. allies.

Another SU fighter plane drops to building in Russia, this was in Irkuts, just 6 days earlyer SU-34 crashed also in Jeisk.


Non-watermarked version


In Irkutsk, the Su-30, which had just taken off from the aircraft factory, fell on a two-story house.

It is reported that they weren't just pilots. They were testers.

the 101st airborne is in europe for the first time since ww2 and are three miles from the ukraine border in romania. "Brig. Gen. John Lubas, the division's deputy commander, stressed this is "not a training deployment" but rather a "combat deployment" from which his forces "need to be ready to fight tonight, depending on how the situation escalates across the border."

russian super macho non-woke conscripts versus these guys is no contest....

a reply to: LouisCypher

That might go along with reports / conversations I am seeing. If Putin takes an action in Ukraine, like blowing up a dam and putting 80 cities under water, direct military (non Nuclear) involvement by Western / Allied countries would occur. This would NOT be a NATO issue and the countries that go into Ukraine would not be protected by NATO article V.

The goal would be to push Russia completely out of the original borders of Ukraine. Western / Allied forces would stop at the Ukraine - Russia (Belarus) border and would not go any farther.

a reply to: Xcathdra

There's many possible steps in between. Like giving them better rockets, jets, even a no-fly zone or a peace-keeping mission in the western Ukraine to relieve them a bit. It's a warning of escalation that should be avoided by Russia

originally posted by: xpert11

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
A gypsies warning to the Iranians?

CENTCOM commander visits US ballistic missile submarine in Arabian Sea
The announcement of the visit and the submarine's location was noted as unusual by analysts.
www.jpost.com...

An unusual occurrence but not a sign that a nuclear exchange will occur: Perhaps a signal to Putin concerning the potential ramifications of Russia employing nuclear weapons against NATO members and other U.S. allies.

Thanks for the heads up xpert11

US military forces 'fully prepared' to cross into Ukraine

U.S. military forces are "fully prepared" to cross into Ukraine at a moment's notice to fight a war against Russia.

The Army's 101st Airborne Division, which boasts the "Screaming Eagles" moniker, has been deployed to Europe for the first time since World War II, practicing with live tank and artillery rounds not far from the Black Sea, across which Russia has taken territory from Ukraine, including Crimea, at a forward operating site on NATO's eastern flank, according to CBS News.

Brig. Gen. John Lubas, the division's deputy commander, stressed this is "not a training deployment" but rather a "combat deployment" from which his forces "need to be ready to fight tonight, depending on how the situation escalates across the border."

Col. Edwin Matthaidess, commander of the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, told the news outlet these troops are the closest U.S. unit to the fighting in Ukraine, still raging more than seven months into Russia's full-scale invasion began. "It keeps us on our toes," he said.

The roughly 4,700 soldiers from Fort Campbell, Kentucky, are about three miles away from Romania's border with Ukraine, conducting joint ground and air assault exercises with Romanian forces meant to simulate battles that Ukrainian forces are waging against Russian invaders.

"It's not just about defending NATO territory," Charlie D'Agata, senior foreign correspondent for CBS News, said in one report from an air base in Romania. "If the fight escalates, and NATO partners are under threat, they're fully prepared to cross over into Ukrainian territory if ordered to do so."

Ive said it before, ill say it again... all you people supporting ruZZia in their invasion of Ukraine, all those taking ruZZias side and calling America, the West and Ukraine the bad guys in some complex illogical conspiracy...

THESE are the ruZZians your supporting in doing so... this is ruZZian state sponsored media. This is what they think, this is what the push as their narrative to their people.

Hope your proud. Granted I dont think anyone here that does even bothers watching these...


Love how the guy mentions the Soviet Union was seriously ill.. and that Ukraine was the most sick and therefore needs to be destroyed... yet they want to return to the days of the Soviet Union, their literally spinning like tops in their arguments.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ
a reply to: Xcathdra

There's many possible steps in between. Like giving them better rockets, jets, even a no-fly zone or a peace-keeping mission in the western Ukraine to relieve them a bit. It's a warning of escalation that should be avoided by Russia

The warning of escalation is always there.

Rather funny the propaganda between sides, like how Russia is being pointed at protecting regions with actual long history and connection with a mass population of ethnic Russians there who called for help.

When U.S comes across seas, it’s no big deal.

And just want Russia out lol

Without coming to the table and negotiating peace, security and independence in South/eastern regions of the mass ethnic Russian population that have been there for a long time.

The situation is complicated. Remember Khrushchev gave Crimea as a gift within a time frame not that far out. When many of our parents were born. 1950s

Again, it’s complicated.

Zelensky is a puppet and under control/reliance with powers in the west.

One can easily fall back and start stuttering saying “well Zelensky is in war etc” ….nope.

Too many hands are in the cookie jar.

a reply to: Imhere

Or, you could just get real?

Instead of parroting Russian bollocks?

a reply to: Imhere

like how Russia is being pointed at protecting regions with actual long history and connection with a mass population of ethnic Russians there who called for help.

When ethnic Mexicans living in Texas and Arizona call for help, i will expect you to cheer the Mexican Military as they roll over the border.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Imhere

Or, you could just get real?

Instead of parroting Russian bollocks?

Or, you can congeal a better reply on the full spectrum of the situation.

And stop with your 2bit responses, having hands over ears “lalalalalala”

Constructive conversation isn’t a bad thing or weak. And actually come to better solutions, especially in a situation as this.

But you do you.

originally posted by: Imhere

Without coming to the table and negotiating peace, security and independence in South/eastern regions of the mass ethnic Russian population that have been there for a long time.

The situation is complicated.

So your happy to negotiate with a country where the head director of broadcasting for RT says live on state TV that Ukrainian children who refuse to accept Ukraine as ruZZia or even just say it, are to be burned alive? or drowned in rivers... what do you think will happen to the Ukrainians who refuse to bend the knee in those newly 'liberated' ruZZian regions if ruZZia was negotiated peace and got to keep them... after all you claim the regions are the majority ruZZian, and from the state media we can see what ruZZians think, are they therefore to flee from their homes to survive? is the 'majority' in the right in cleansing them from 'their' region after they negotiate peace?

And its not complicated, ruZZia invaded its neighbor (as it did Crimea, as it did Chechnya)... and yes Zelensky is at war.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Imhere

like how Russia is being pointed at protecting regions with actual long history and connection with a mass population of ethnic Russians there who called for help.

When ethnic Mexicans living in Texas and Arizona call for help, i will expect you to cheer the Mexican Military as they roll over the border.

Texas isn’t Ukraine. Nice try lol.

Also, what’s to stop China supporting Mexico?

You know, from across seas etc.

Also, how would Texas feel if Russia or China got control to start massing gear on the border.

Like outside influences, such as NATO using Ukraine, bordering Russia.

Texas wouldn’t take that lightly lol

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Imhere

like how Russia is being pointed at protecting regions with actual long history and connection with a mass population of ethnic Russians there who called for help.

When ethnic Mexicans living in Texas and Arizona call for help, i will expect you to cheer the Mexican Military as they roll over the border.

When they are murdered by the US govt in the thousands with Ukranian supplied weapons, lemme know.

originally posted by: Imhere
Texas isn’t Ukraine. Nice try lol.

Also, what’s to stop China supporting Mexico?

You know, from across seas etc.

Also, how would Texas feel if Russia or China got control to start massing gear on the border.

Like outside influences, such as NATO using Ukraine, bordering Russia.

Umm Mexico owned Texas as a territory for a while... then lost it, whats the difference between that and the USSR and its breakup and loosing those regions to Ukraine?...

So yeah, by your own argument Mexico has every right to invade Texas to protect the Mexicans living there now... doesnt mean it ever should.

a reply to: JinMI

When they are murdered by the US govt in the thousands with Ukranian supplied weapons

Still living in your fantasy world i see.

I challenged you previously to come up with proof, and what did you supply ? Feck all.