Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 3

a reply to: ufoorbhunter
You know the saying about "learn from history or it will be repeated"?

When the heck will we do that?
Is it even possible?
Sometimes it seems we are just hardwired for war-it seems almost autonomous,the bee collects pollen,the bird builds a nest.
The humans wage war.

Maybe there is no escaping our alpha predator nature,at least collectively.


I say that because we can all see the dominoes lining up,or the chess pieces-just as we can read about the same happening before WW1 and 2. Versions of the same sorry story.
We are at that stage now,where its been decided-we are just finishin off choosing who is on what team before it kicks off properly.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Too right mate, the whole WW3 is unavoidable. It's just human nature to fight unfortunately. Just ape nature. My friend once told me he'd like to take me to a zoo with a monkey house in it to show me why there is no future for apes with nukes. We stood there and watched one group of monkeys decend from their tree and attack another group. Give it some time, another group of monkeys charged out of another tree and attacked another group. Heck, it just repeated itself, over and over and over again

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

I'm not too sure about WWIII being 'unavoidable' - we certainly have to try our best to avoid it.
But war in general is unavoidable, at least until mankind is able to make sort of step change....and there's no evidence of that happening any time soon.
We have to reduce the opportunity for war to break out and minimise its effect - I haven't got a scooby how we should go about that though.

Your point about apes is bang on the money.

Bang on the money and scary..Apes with nukes.
No wonder the aliens try to stay hidden.

originally posted by: Silcone Synapse
Bang on the money and scary..Apes with nukes.
No wonder the aliens try to stay hidden.

I don't think the off-planet beings want the planet blown up.

Doubt they care about its inhabitants.

a reply to: Freeborn

Certainly hope we / TPTB can avoid a world war FB yet they are preparing for it all the time. Developing new ways of killing people. Spending enormous amounts of dosh procuring 'defence' equipment. Various players all intent on undermining their adversaries. There has to be a bogeyman to focus the potential aggression. Nazi, japanese, Soviets, Islamic world, now Russia. Once Russia is put in its place, I guess China will be the target or focus of TPTB. Sometimes I wonder if Russia and China was removed as a bogeyman, where next? Indonesia, Brasil, Nigeria, who knows, but they'll fins some state to go against.

I believe Russia is preparing to go to war on a large scale. Martial Law, annexation, mobilization; Putin wants WW3.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

They already have a massive foothold in the west. How many immigrants do you think are sleeper agents? I am willing to bet a significant number of them are. They have not forgotten what the western governments did to their homelands. It's a pity they will forget that most of us were opposed to and protested the actions of those people who call themselves our leaders.

a reply to: MetalChickAmy

Immigrants from where?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Iran, and the middle east. They will unite to take on the "great satan". Then they will go back to hating each other again.

a reply to: MetalChickAmy

Oh. OK.

I thought we were talking about Ukraine?

So... listenign to all that.

Kherson is soon to be retaken by the UA and ruZZia will choose to use chemical weapons or worse in the fight, maybe even blow the damn and flood areas (or if any are used blame it on Ukraine), love how they say citizens are a concern of theirs, yet all the blanket bombed cities and villages and towns from the first few months of the war are i guess forgotten? or all the civilians currently being bombed (pretty unsuccessfully but still) by drones in Kyiv... or their forceably relocating them to ruZZian territory (as they have done at various times during the invasion).

Love how they basically say they are out numbered 4/1 and out gunned and out skilled but they will win (oh and their only really losing to NATO trained troops of coarse, cant give the 'inhuman inferior Ukrainian ' enemy credit where credit is due)... which again makes them saying they will use 'prohibited weapons' even more likely... desperate is as desperate does.

Once Kherson is retaken by the UA, its pretty much the end for putler and his war given its importance (the mental blow to the ruZZIan people from losing it will be pretty significant)... I look forward to it with bated breath.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: FlyingFox

Is your every thought one of assumption and equivocation?

Pointing out the glaring similarities between Putin and Hitler.
Putin has copied so much from Hitler's playbook its truly staggering.
No assumptions or equivocation there.

Actually...
en.wikipedia.org...,_corollaries,_and_usage
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law

Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies,[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison to Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 1.[2][3]

To compare a random fascist leader to Hitler is so vague as to have almost no meaning, that's why I didn't address it. I didn't think seriously it was your main point, and that we're still in 11th grade.

You asked me to reaffirm my statement that, historically, the ties between Nazis and Islamists of the era were quite strong. They still may well be strong, or NeoNazis might have since flipped sides, which is a valid point. I think that a flip is contradictory to current events, as well as Putin's perspective on things.

Not worth debating or researching on-the-fly for a fast moving thread. My best Final Jeopardy answer would be "Nazis being Nazis" and again for the reasons stated above and in my previous posts, your points don't really merit further discussion. You could either try to back up your own assertions with facts, or go back and refresh on my history points that you skipped over, wasting my time...because that's were the discussion actually left off.

See how easy it is???

a reply to: FlyingFox

You asked me to reaffirm my statement that, historically, the ties between Nazis and Islamists of the era were quite strong.

Err.....no I didn't.
I asked you to provide evidence of the 'inherent connection' between Jews and Islamists to support the claim that Islamic terrorists are fighting to support Zelensky.

And if you can't see the similarities between Hitler and Putin, well......?

And I merely countered your claims of 'assumptions and equivocation'.

a reply to: FlyingFox

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. In this case the similiraties with Putin and Hitler is really so remarkable we can compare them with without feeling any shame

Here`s how i adress this




Which is really funny actually since Putins / Russian rhetoric and reasons to start killing Ukrainians was based on the reason to denazify.





It`s staggering people still 2022 cheers fascist Pootin .

a reply to: FlyingFox


Here`s another chilling example for you, see the thinking here ? just bomb infrastructure , winter is coming and there is tens of millions people living there.

Russian lawmakers Andrey Gurulyov and Konstantin Dolgov advocate freezing, starving the Ukrainian civilian population, forcing them into exile by making their survival otherwise impossible. State TV host Olga Skabeeva disingenuously claims that Russia simply has no other choice.


You and Trumpers in generals dont seem to have any issue about genocide, murders , violence ,bombing country down if it is done by fascist Russians .

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

I'm not too sure about WWIII being 'unavoidable' - we certainly have to try our best to avoid it.
But war in general is unavoidable, at least until mankind is able to make sort of step change....and there's no evidence of that happening any time soon.
We have to reduce the opportunity for war to break out and minimise its effect - I haven't got a scooby how we should go about that though.

Your point about apes is bang on the money.

Aliens don't want to step in any more than a zoologist wants to step in between Lion and a gazelle carcas at feeding time

We are truly a species doomed to this behavior if something drastic doesn't shake us loose from our habits

Like am addict forever trying to stifle his reach for the drug of choice

If only we had some way to 'lance' the boil on the planet that is the American MIC. It's policy of regime change across the globe and throughout the decades has caused nothing but death, misery and terror.
Ukraine is but the latest example of American foreign policy and the destruction of yet another country, Russia was never going to accept an American installed puppet in Ukraine but that was already a given and in fact welcomed by the corruption that is American foreign policy. If only we could build a wall around the USA, democracy might have a chance somewhere.

Once this conflict has been milked for what it's worth the American killing machine will move on, no doubt the next theatre is already being prepared. There can be no peace in a world when the most powerful nation is dependent on war and constant threat of war to maintain its hegemony.

The stench of death follows America wherever it goes.

a reply to: midicon


Oh how sweet, another genocide apologist who blame Americans from Russian genocide, Russian terror .


Russia attacks sovereign nation ----------> American MIC caused it . Yeeh maybe you should not try to think too about geopolitical things if cant see other than that.