Abortions - Why so bad?

a reply to: quintessentone
And there is the magic word!
Consent.
I am not saying that I don't agree with you overall.
I disagree with your original premise.
Your first post, about hypocrisy.
In 99% of abortion cases, consent was given before the pregnancy ever arose.
Paying taxes and war are totally different.
The government does not have our consent to use taxes for war but they consider it "their" money.
As I said, taxes are legalized extortion.
Hell....
6.6% of abortion cost is paid by taxpayers and I sure as hell don't agree with that.
Yet, that has nothing to do with the OP.

Start a thread and I will HAPPILY chime in.

a reply to: Quadrivium

I hear you mate but at this point I think we’re pissing I the wind. These cretins value their own existence more than the defenceless babies their body is designed to protect. I’m not even going to argue anymore, they can burn in hell.

I value the LIVING -- and their right to make choices for their life.

I value those LIVING in immediately need of care.

originally posted by: Annee
I value the LIVING -- and their right to make choices for their life.

Well that pretty much sums it up, thank you for clarifying.
You do not "value":
Humans in the womb.
Infants.
Toddlers.
Underage Children.
People unconscious.
People with Dementia.
People with Mental Disabilities.
Ect.

I value those LIVING in immediately need of care.

Which is the definition of a human in the womb.
If they are denied that care (chemical abortion at early stages), they die, or they are ripped apart limb by limb to remove them (later term abortions).

They are living.
They are human beings.
In 99% of cases, they were freely and willfully conceived.

The embryonic, fetal, infant, child and adolescent stages are stages of development of a determinate and enduring entity -- a human being -- who comes into existence as a zygote and develops by a gradual and gapless process into adulthood many years later.

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originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee
I value the LIVING -- and their right to make choices for their life.

Well that pretty much sums it up, thank you for clarifying.
You do not "value":
Infants.
Toddlers.
Underage Children.
People unconscious.
People with Dementia.
People with Mental Disabilities.
Ect.





I value those LIVING in immediately need of care.

Wrong.

They have the RIGHT as a sentient being.

Where they are in ability is not relevant.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee
I value the LIVING -- and their right to make choices for their life.

Well that pretty much sums it up, thank you for clarifying.
You do not "value":
Infants.
Toddlers.
Underage Children.
People unconscious.
People with Dementia.
People with Mental Disabilities.
Ect.





I value those LIVING in immediately need of care.

Wrong.

They have the RIGHT as a sentient being.

Where they are in ability is not relevant.

And when does your magical "sentience" Fairy show up with the magical sentient dust to sprinkle on a human being to make them ...... More human?

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee
I value the LIVING -- and their right to make choices for their life.

Well that pretty much sums it up, thank you for clarifying.
You do not "value":
Infants.
Toddlers.
Underage Children.
People unconscious.
People with Dementia.
People with Mental Disabilities.
Ect.





I value those LIVING in immediately need of care.

Wrong.

They have the RIGHT as a sentient being.

Where they are in ability is not relevant.

And when does your magical "sentience" Fairy show up with the magical sentient dust to sprinkle on a human being to make them ...... More human?

A sentient being knows when they're hungry -- knows when they are cold ---- like the 5 million plus LIVING CHILDREN already in need.

Unlike a "parasite".

originally posted by: Annee
I value the LIVING -- and their right to make choices for their life.

Except the most vulnerable of course... those don't count because #babies-are-bad

I value those LIVING in immediately need of care.

Which means... what, exactly?

The two main exceptions that pro-baby-murderers use are an extremely low percentage of abortions that are performed. The vast, vast majority are for convenience only.

No one (no sane, rational adult) denies the right of a woman and her doctor to make a decision to save her life, even if it means the unborn child may die, but the reality is, many women I have asked about this would only make that decision if there was ZERO chance her baby would survive. If there was a reasonable chance, they preferred to save the baby, even if it meant she would die.

This is how most sane rational parents feel about their children. Not all, obviously, but most.

a reply to: tanstaafl

I find it worrying that there's people out there who think of babies as "parasites". What a dangerous perspective, borderline criminal if you ask me. They should be kept away from children. No surprise the same people who believe this sh!t are the ones who support gender re-assignment and hormone therapies for children. Ironically the world would probably be a better place had they been aborted themselves.

a reply to: Annee

Did any of your children cry upon birth?

Wonder what their reaction to the outside world was based upon if not complex feelings.

a reply to: tanstaafl

I've had both a spontaneous abortion and an elective abortion (because I did not want another child -- no other reason).

I already had 2 children. I chose them and their welfare over bringing a third mouth to feed.

I don't need to talk to anyone else about the subject. I'm not in need of secondhand info.

I feel no different between the spontaneous abortion and the elective abortion. One I had a choice -- the other I didn't -- still the same.

I have zero regrets -- and would do it again under the same circumstances.

With 5 million plus unwanted LIVING CHILDREN -- this world does not need one more unwanted child.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Annee

Did any of your children cry upon birth?

Wonder what their reaction to the outside world was based upon if not complex feelings.

Neither of my spontaneous aborted or elective aborted cried.

And it doesn't matter.

The only thing that matters is my LIVING CHILDREN -- and all the other LIVING CHILDREN.

a reply to: Annee

Tell it to God when you meet them, i'm not listening.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Annee

Tell it to God when you meet them, i'm not listening.

God? LOL

a reply to: Annee

Well....I will try to put it in your backward, sadistic terminology but I am not fluent in Killerese.

When does your magical "sentience" Fairy show up with the magical sentient dust to sprinkle on a human 'parasite' being to make them ...... More human?
Did that help, any?
Can you answer now?

a reply to: Annee

No surprise that you mock the creator. Good luck with that.

a reply to: Annee

I feel no different between the spontaneous abortion and the elective abortion. One I had a choice -- the other I didn't -- still the same.

The Same?
Um...No.
The spontaneous "abortion" (miscarriage) is a natural act. It is a human being dying a natural death.
An elective abortion is the premeditated killing of another human being for convenience, in 99% of cases.

a reply to: Annee

Neither of my spontaneous aborted or elective aborted cried.

This is more proof of your sadistic mindset!
They did not cry because they were ONCE living, then DIED.
One died naturally...
One was Killed.....
The dead do not cry.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Annee

No surprise that you mock the creator. Good luck with that.

You mean your man made god who cares more about non-birthing a Zycote over caring for LIVING CHILDREN in NEED?

"Oh, my transgressions!". The religious fear death more than anyone else. Suffer for God.


I've had paranormal & out of body experiences since first memory.

The purity of mind energy puts things in perspective.

Your man made god is about control.

a reply to: Annee

You have no idea what my concept of the creator is, because you never asked.

More know it all aspersions and projections.

The world doesn't revolve around you.