How many men have no clue

a reply to: Quadrivium

In the eyes of the law there is zero difference between those two actions which is why when you look up your invented phrase, 'premeditated killing', it automatically defaults to homicide/first degree murder definitions.

a reply to: JAGStorm

And most states kept exceptions for medical emergencies which is your medical procedure.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Quadrivium

In the eyes of the law there is zero difference between those two actions which is why when you look up your invented phrase, 'premeditated killing', it automatically defaults to homicide/first degree murder definitions.

None of which changes the FACT that abortion is the premeditated killing of a human being.

originally posted by: Quadrivium
None of which changes the FACT that abortion is the premeditated killing of a human being.

And totally legal in even the states that limited it.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
Again, I never said it wasn't. That is exactly why I used the word "killing" instead of "murder".
Glad you finally comprehend....
It only took 2.5 pages of spoon feeding, but hey, at least you're better for it.

originally posted by: Quadrivium
That is exactly why I used the word "killing" instead of "murder".

You used the invented phrase 'premeditated killing' which = murder.

Killing and murder are not necessarily synonymous. However when you combine that word with premeditation and a person it becomes homicide. Homicide is illegal in every state, a premeditated abortion is not.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Quadrivium
That is exactly why I used the word "killing" instead of "murder".

You used the invented phrase 'premeditated killing' which = murder.

Killing and murder are not necessarily synonymous. However when you combine that word with premeditation and a person it becomes homicide. Homicide is illegal in every state, a premeditated abortion is not.

Yet, abortion is the premeditated killing of another human being.

originally posted by: Quadrivium
Yet, abortion is the premeditated killing of another human being.

That statement would mean it's homicide, it isn't since it's legal and homicide is not.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
Negative.
The statement says exactly what it is due to the use of "killing" instead of "murder".
It is premeditated.
It is the killing of another human being.
"It is the premeditated killing of another human being."

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
Negative.
The statement says exactly what it is due to the use of "killing" instead of "murder".

There is no difference when modified by premeditation and the death of a person which is why there are laws against it. The premeditated killing of another person is murder. Abortion is not.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Shared? Uh sorry but no. Nobody has any right to tell another what to do with their body. You can’t force someone to carry a child they don’t want. You think those that want abortions won’t find other more dangerous ways? How many kids will end up abused or killed?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
How can you be SO dense.
Two words.
Different meanings.
Both CAN be premeditated.
If I go hunting and kill a deer, was it premeditated?
Yes.
If you chose to kill a human being through abortion, was it premeditated?
Yes.
What's the difference?
Murder is UNLAWFUL.
Killing is not.
As of now (like during slavery in the US), some people are considered less than human, killing them would not be considered murder but "desposal of property".
That does not change the fact that they are human beings and if you kill them, you are causing lose of life.
My gosh, the stupid # you will say just to try and be right when you know you're wrong.

originally posted by: Quadrivium
Two words.
Different meanings.

When you type 'premeditated killing' and 'human being' into a search field what do you get? Easy, you get result after result for homicide, first degree. What you don't get is your made up phrase 'premeditated killing'.

Why is that?

If you chose to kill a human being through abortion, was it premeditated?
Yes.
What's the difference?
Murder is UNLAWFUL.
Killing is not.

If I kill another human being via any other method is that unlawful?

This will be funny.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
If abortion is not the premeditated killing of another human being, what is it Gus?
You are causing loss of life (definition of killing) to another human being.
We can't call it murder because currently it's legal to kill a human being, in the beginning of their life cycle.

a reply to: Quadrivium

Try answering my questions.

Try answering my questions

Ok

If I kill another human being via any other method is that unlawful?

No.

Now will you answer my question?

a reply to: Quadrivium

Wait, did you just say killing another human being is not unlawful? Too funny. Bro, first degree murder is illegal, everywhere. Abortion is not. Both involve premeditation.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Damn bro, your reading Comprehension is so bad, you don't even understand your own question.

If I kill another human being via any other method is that unlawful?

The answer to this question is no.
Your question has been answered.
Now will you answer my question?

If abortion is not the premeditated killing of another human being, what is it Gus?
You are causing loss of life (definition of killing) to another human being.
We can't call it murder because currently it's legal to kill a human being, in the beginning of their life cycle.

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: JAGStorm

I wonder if there are guys that knocked up a girl and never knew.

I wonder how many half-siblings from the 'free love' era unknowingly married each other.

Thanks nug.
Now I'm going to look in the mirror every morning and
wonder if it's 23 More and Me. Mike Keaton moment indeed.

originally posted by: Quadrivium
Damn bro, your reading Comprehension is so bad, you don't even understand your own question.

I understand it very well, I asked if I kill another human being via any other method than abortion (in a premeditated context) if it's illegal and you said 'no', meaning it's not unlawful.

Odd that you think abortion is murder but not murder.