-@TH3WH17ERABB17- -Q- Questions ---SHALL WE PLAY A GAME ONCE MORE?--- -Part- --41--

a reply to: Caled

I'm not sure I am following you on this. The FBI has proven during this time period that they were doing things in the best interest of the people and only do things by the book. How can you make such claims that it was some type of conspiracy?

a reply to: Charliebrowndog

You are correct. Trust in the government. Trust in the jabs. There are no conspiracies. Embrace ignorance.

a reply to: Caled


The FBI was basically corrupt from day one. Hoover used blackmail on just about anyone you could think of. The depth they went to cannot be underestimated and there is no way it was ever cleaned up. It was like a giant sore that got deeper and deeper that was never allowed to heal. The only way that it can be cured is to amputate the limb.

As things get exposed more its really going to be disgusting what they have done. The Mar a Lago raid items are what is going to open the flood gates in my opinion.

Moderna Defects

179 complaints, 17 supplier complaints about visible particles in the Moderna mRNA jabs from September 3,2020 to August 2022.
Just sooo many redactions but it is clear that there are visible defects in the magic potion. [4]< b gone!
#H. "Your firm does not document the identity of the particles found during the visual inspection of aseptically filled product."

Back in April they recalled lot #000190A because of this issue and yet here we are still having contamination issues. I recall the words "safe' being bantered around.
Moderna Recalls Lot #000190A

I could use some help please. Who/what are the "Jasons"?

Continuing with the book "The Premonition" Chapter: The Red Phone

Joe DeRisi developed a chip called virochip that could quickly identify a virus. He was summoned to a meeting with the "Jasons" which he thought was super weird. All he could find out at the time was conspiracy Qanon stuff.
This occured after the SARS outbreak [2003]. His tech identified it within 24 hours while the CDC did their usual diddling around.
"The senior officer of the navy asked him to go to DC and explain to the Jasons how this biological threat crept up on humanity and how the lab detected it." page 143

Weirdness-
He went there and did a 10 minute speech, which was all the time that was given. They asked him some odd questions...
One was "What if the virus had zero genetic connection to any virus on earth? What if it came from mars? page 145

Joe was really puzzled as to why they didn't ask the obvious question "How do we use this technology to get a jump on the virus of the future?"

From
Wiki I see that BARDA at one point tried to muscle in and appoint 3 Jasons.
What are the chances that Jason's contract was cancelled by the DOD in April 2019? It was extended through the Department of Energy for an additional 8 months which would mean that Jason was terminated when the Plandemic was launched > December 2019!
Jason Wiki

I can the group are into some very high level thinking so what is the conspiracy?

The Red Phone
There are some really serious issues around Joe DeRisi's "Red Phone".

Virochip- DeRisi was not only able to identify a virus but he was also able to determine a cure using the Virochip.
What if no one knew that his red phone existed? It was the only way that Drs. and researchers could contact him.
In fact it was so obscure that "one had to be in the know of Michael and Joe's Friends and Family Plan" use of the Red Phone. page 153

The CDC knew all about the technology and did not reach out to him when Covid-19 hit. He could have analyzed the virus and found a cure within a couple of days! All they had to do was pick up the phone.
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Joe DeRisi had problems, big problems with the CDC that had him wondering exactly who they were working for.
Best I break this down so not a wall of words.

a reply to: Thoughtful1
en.wikipedia.org...(advisory_group)" target="_blank" class="postlink">2010 archive capture

Your page showed that it was updated sep 2022.

reports are classified.

The name "JASON" is sometimes explained as an acronym, standing either for "July-August-September-October-November", the months in which the group would typically meet; or, tongue in cheek, for "Junior Achiever, Somewhat Older Now". However, neither explanation is correct; in fact, the name is not an acronym at all. It is a reference to Jason, a character from Greek mythology. The wife of one of the founders (Mildred Goldberger) thought the name given by the defense department, Project Sunrise, was unimaginative and suggested the group be named for a hero and his search.

JASON studies have included a now-mothballed system for communicating with submarines using extremely long radio waves (Project Seafarer, Project Sanguine), an astronomical technique for overcoming the atmosphere's distortion (Adaptive optics), the many problems of missile defense, technologies for verifying compliance with treaties banning nuclear tests, a 1982 report predicting CO2-driven global warming, and a system of computer-linked sensors developed during the Vietnam War which became the precursor to the modern electronic battlefield.

Quite a bit was edited out in the past 12 years.
Put w back in wikipedia👇
web.archive.org...://en.ikipedia.org/wiki/JASON_(advisory_group)





eta ist-socrates.berkeley.edu..." target="_blank" class="postlink">science against the people
web.archive.org...://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~schwrtz/SftP/Jason.html#INTRODUCTION

a reply to: loveguy
Providing links to way back are too difficult.

Why?
Below is a paste from last link in previous post.

   1. Many of us, like the authors of this booklet, are already convinced that the U.S. military establishment, as it is now, constitutes the dominant force for death, destruction and the suppression of popular movements for liberation throughout the capitalist ruled world.  What we say to the Jason scientists is, Cease all your services for the Pentagon; repudiate the U.S. militaristic policies and the corruptions of science in that service; reveal whatever inside information you have about the military.  Ellsberg did.

Joe DeRisi and Virochip vs the CDC

Chapter: The Red Phone

When SARS struck Joe wanted to get a tissue sample to analyze using his Virochip slide and he requested one from the CDC. At first they stalled but finally agreed to send him one.
What did the CDC do? They sent an infected lung sample from a patient who had died of SARS via FedEx weekend delivery in a simple cardboard FedEx box.
"Some guy in a FedEx truck carrying a chunk of lung from a human being who had recently died of a deadly airborne disease would be cruising around UCSF campus searching for a way in." page 136

I can't even imagine how the FedEx driver must have felt when Joe put on heavy lab gloves to handle the package.

After passing the SARS virus through his Virochip slide it stuck to cow coronavirus, a bird coronavirus and a human coronavirus. Investigators meanwhile had gathered all kinds of animal species from China and came up with the horseshoe bat.
Weird became his go to word. "No one had ever seen a bat coronavirus. They did not exist." page 142
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Joe went to several meetings with CDC officials who shut him down, ignored him and blocked him.

What else was going on after SARS?

Pandemic of the snakes. Joe received a weird letter about a world wide mass snake die off and decided to investigate.
His prologue to investigate was "That's Weird".

Conveniently there was no snake genome in the NIH Gen Bank so he had to find his own genetic samples. Suddenly snakes had arenaviruses which was really, really odd because that had never been found in snakes. That leads to Lassa Fever and Brazilian Hemmoragic Fever! page 148

"Even more strangely, this new snake arenavirus had one genetic sequence in it that was not part of any known arenavirus but it fit into the puzzle of the Ebola virus."

Determined he went to Fort Detrick and convinced them to conduct Ebola experiments on snakes. Pythons survived after being injected with the Ebola virus, boas did not.
Scientists at Fort Detrick wanted to study this further to see if the Ebola would also prosper in the snakes but suddenly the research was shut down. Safety concerns.pages 143-145
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Joe became involved with two diseases, Leptospirosis and Balamuthisa, where the importance of the Red Phone came into play.
The Doctor treating Lep. called the Red Phone and Joe leaped into action and found the cure >penicillan.
The CDC can't have that inexpensive treatment on the loose.
The CDC had "a law that prevented labs without formal medical certificates from the CDC- labs like DeRisi lab- from reporting any results to physicians." Joe did an end round and the boy was saved.

Meanwhile Balamuthisia attending Doctors waited 45 days before calling the Red phone, spent $1,000,100 on treatment and the woman died. Joe discovered the one drug wonder treatment "Nixtroxoline". They would lose so much profit.
Two years after publication in mBio the " FDA had yet to approved nitroxoline, long cleared by European regulators, as a treatment and the CDC continued to recommend the old treatment." Pages 153- 156
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Ha > Joe began to be mystified by the CDC. He found it mind boggling that there was only one woman trying to curate academic literature for Drs. and patients to access and it wasn't even her job. Well it is expensive creating gain of function diseases. page 157

The Red Phone Can Save Your Life. Why was it not used for Covid-19???

originally posted by: MetalThunder
Remember Sunspot Observatory ?

How (and Why) the FBI Mysteriously Shut Down a Federal Solar Observatory - The full details of what happened at the Sunspot Solar Observatory in 2018 finally came out at trial.

Another Durham (Thomas) & Another Laptop

For many years, the observatory in Sunspot, New Mexico, did its job without much fanfare. Instruments up there, on the 9,200-foot Sacramento Peak, watched the Sun—the sort of star you yourself are not supposed to look at through a telescope. 

In early September 2018, though, Sunspot Solar Observatory broke into the national consciousness, and not for a stellar scientific discovery. Instead, the facility made headlines because it and the small surrounding town had been evacuated, because, rumors said, it had been shut down by the FBI.

Thanks for the update.
I spent half my life in secure computer labs and any laptop just lying around no matter powered-on or not would be immediately confiscated and the owner tracked down by the IT detectives. Anyways the evacuation of all personnel & observatory shutdown for 11 days over a suspicious labtop/person just doesn't jive here. As the saying/pattern goes, porn & labtops make great cover stories.

The search warrant filed in federal court in Las Cruces said the facility’s chief observer, who was not identified, told FBI agent he found a laptop computer with [CP] several months earlier but did not immediately report the discovery to authorities because he was “distracted” by an unspecified urgent issue at the observatory.

Man in CP case that closed observatory indicted

Like to know what was the "urgent" issue. I've always wondered if this spooky observatory caught a glimpse of a USAP object; or something out of The Order of the Dolphin. That observatory was built by the US Air Force, in 1947 and several years later transferred to the National Science Foundation.

a reply to: loveguy
Your link is 404'd!
Is there any ATS thread on this?

Joe thought all of this was super weird. He went with a Jason descending down into what felt like middle earth.
Jason/Not Jason said "It's like going down a rabbit hole". page 139

I am just waiting to find our "Alice".
He did overhear something> A project called Night Fist.

a reply to: Thoughtful1
Yeah I noticed way back and the link referenced work using brave browser, yandex only shows the way back captures from 2022.
Yandex allows saving as pdf, brave don't, figures. Duck won't even open anymore on this tablet, chock full of bookmarks!
I'm thinking of putting the links on my gab account to point at from here.
I've been suspended from twitter too many times and they wipe everything in so doing, and gab is well, there as an intermediary for the most part.

Let me know if brave browser gives access to archived links.




my gab link

originally posted by: Thoughtful1

I could use some help please. Who/what are the "Jasons"?

JASONs were a hot rabbit hole topic awhile back. Check this Thread.

JASONs, RAND, The MITRE Corporation, & DARPA.

Marvin Leonard "Murph" Goldberger (October 22, 1922 – November 26, 2014) was an American theoretical physicist and former president of the California Institute of Technology, CFR member, And the co-founder of the JASON group physicists, advisors to DARPA all throughout the cold war era until post-9/11. According to author/DARPA researcher Annie Jacobsen, when DARPA & the Pentagon wanted to move into autonomonous warfare with hunter/killer self-governing drones AND brain chip implants; the JASON group advised against it. DARPA & Pentagon war mongers replaced the JASONs with an old group called the Defense Science Board (DSB).

Sec of Defense Ash Carter under Obama ordered a program to work on robotics and Ethics. Then it was realized that cyborgs don't have morals so DARPA created a new program focused on "trust" called Narrative Networks or the "N2" program to master the science of propaganda in working with story tellers and anthropologists on how people are influenced by narratives which involves a brain chemical called Oxytocin, sometimes referred to as the brain's moral molecule.

Analyze the neurobiological impact of narratives on hormones and neurotransmitters, reward processing, and emotion-cognition interaction; and Develop models and simulations of narrative influence in social and environmental contexts, develop sensors to determine their impact on individuals and groups, and suggest doctrinal modifications...And that project was from 10 or so years ago.

So, from DARPA perspective this Oxytocin chemical is what humans use as a 'trust' mechanism and the potential to mass manipulate populations along with DARPA transhumanism science for the military.

In an interview describing DARPA’s omniscient presence Jacobson says that,

“. . .those who follow conspiracy theorists probably know that the JASON scientists are considered to be right up there with the Illuminati, in terms of, you know people see them as these wizards behind the curtain doing all these bad things. . .”

A deeper investigation into the JASON Group reveals that they may be even more important than the Bilderberg group as far as controlling worldly chaos.

Jacobson goes on to say that she interviewed one of the co-founders of the JASON physicists, Martin Goldberger, who was an adviser to the Pentagon for decades. It is thought that he and other scientists discovered a secret code for the human brain. The implications of this discovery are enormous, considering that DARPA has inserted itself into nearly every aspect of our daily lives.
DARPA and the JASON Scientists – The Pentagon’s Maladaptive Brain (2016)

From the Manhattan archives: Full audio & transcript of a 1983 interview with Marvin Goldberger

The issue with DSB vs JASONs is that the DSB are full-time non-academic defense contractors who sit on all the major defense contractor boards like Lockheed, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon, etc., in advising the Pentagon on how to move forward on autonomous warfare. The closed-loop Eisenhower warned against...


Defense Science Board Reports

Trump for whatever reason(s) wanted to disband the Jason Group. (Part of "Drain the swamp" campaign?)

Inside a Trump-era purge of military scientists at a legendary think tank

The efforts to kill the scientific panels show how the Trump administration’s crackdown on the role of independent science in the U.S. government is reaching into areas long thought immune from political influence.

The Jasons, drawn from America’s elite scientists, are hand-picked by the existing membership. They are known for fiercely guarding their independence and, at times, ruffling feathers.

Named after the leader of the Argonauts who sought the Golden Fleece in Greek mythology, they were formed after the Soviet Union launched Sputnik, the first satellite to orbit Earth, in 1957. Fearing it was losing the space and technology war, the United States created the Jason program.

Disbanding the program would have had a ripple effect across U.S. government agencies that use Jason research. For the summer of 2019, the Jasons had been asked to conduct 15 separate studies by seven government agencies.

Trump’s top scientist outlines plan to reduce foreign influence on US research

The elite group of scientists who advise the US government on national security issues, known as the JASONs, is studying research security at the request of the National Science Foundation.

The Life and Legacies of Joshua Lederberg (NIH link)

He advised the U.S. government in many agencies, including: the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the National Science Foundation (NSF), NASA, the Navy Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP), the Department of Energy, the Defense Science Board, and others. So too on the world stage. In addition, his deep sense of science’s contributions to the well-being of humanity was expressed in his role as co-chair of the Carnegie Commission on Science, Technology, and Government, producing multiple publications on most branches of government, strengthening their science and technology capacities and their decision-making processes. He served with distinction on the National Academies’ Committee on International Security and Arms Control (CISAC), heading its efforts in biology.

JASON Group: Historical membership list - Dr. Joshua Lederberg was a JASON member.

Dr. Lederberg (Fauci's mentor) was regarded as a super-genius from age 14, an extremely important person worthy of further research (if so interested) as that vector will open many doors on how we got where we are today concerning the medical, Biowarfare, vax to eugenics programs all wrapped under the Manhattan project classifications; which includes the Q Clearance bats going back to circa WWII. Funny how 'bats' were never much of a topic until the mid-late 90s when the NY Times put Peter Daszak & his virus hunter colleagues in the spotlight and ~20 years later here we are in bat chaos.

Chan-Zuckerberg Biohub
Click Clubhouse

Joe DeRisi became co-president of the Chan-Zuckerberg Biohub just before the plandemic.
Joe DeRisi Wiki

What are the chances that the Predict Program that was set up for detecting emerging pandemics was defunded during the Trump administration? That left Biohub who by default set up a global network as an early warning radar for emerging diseases. Oddly China refused to participate. page 159
DeRisi approached the CDC who should have been involved and even offered to pay for it. "Weird "We went to the CDC and pitched them and we were given a cold reception".
Biohub subsequently partnered with our friend and humanitarian the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. page 157-159

The CDC is just so broken.

originally posted by: loveguy
a reply to: Thoughtful1

2010 archive capture

Your page showed that it was updated sep 2022.

reports are classified.

The name "JASON" is sometimes explained as an acronym, standing either for "July-August-September-October-November", the months in which the group would typically meet; or, tongue in cheek, for "Junior Achiever, Somewhat Older Now". However, neither explanation is correct; in fact, the name is not an acronym at all. It is a reference to Jason, a character from Greek mythology. The wife of one of the founders (Mildred Goldberger) thought the name given by the defense department, Project Sunrise, was unimaginative and suggested the group be named for a hero and his search.

JASON studies have included a now-mothballed system for communicating with submarines using extremely long radio waves (Project Seafarer, Project Sanguine), an astronomical technique for overcoming the atmosphere's distortion (Adaptive optics), the many problems of missile defense, technologies for verifying compliance with treaties banning nuclear tests, a 1982 report predicting CO2-driven global warming, and a system of computer-linked sensors developed during the Vietnam War which became the precursor to the modern electronic battlefield.

Quite a bit was edited out in the past 12 years.
Put w back in wikipedia👇
JASON (advisory group)


eta science against the people

^^^Linkage fixed.

Tip:

a reply to: XtheMadnessNow
Thank you.

Thanks LG and X I need to do some serious reading about all of this. I have never heard of this group before.
I have had a big learning curve and the journey, I feel, is only starting.
At this point I just feel like everything is just so broken. Nothing seems to be for our benefit does it?

I can't blame President Trump for all of our defences being dismantled during his term. There were so many people involved who were prepared to do anything to weaken the country.
All of this leads me to same strange connect the dots.

This still going ? Obviously is !

Thoughtful 1, jeese!

ETMN, kinda tired now, more like.

American politics, give us more of that !

Cranky, offline or devising more too long posts ?

Q, Space is fake.

Anything else is noise.

a reply to: Thoughtful1
I've a bunch of what I call homework links compiled into a word document that if completed and ready for print flyer distribution, I'm saddened with the realization that through a brief Convo with a neighbor (regular normie) not many people will be inclined to try looking above the treeline at what is/has been reflected upon our horizon.

In regards to momentum being affected by outside force. Those of us that try to see above the treeline and share the *higher* perspective are given labels that maintain control of momentum. Uphill, and I wonder how delicious the cookie will be if we get to the cookiejar.

I gotta bounce on over to twit for the latest updates on ⚠


🙋
B4 I bounce, I mean to encourage you and fellow member virtuoso (spelling?) would consider doing a collaboration thread on this *novel* corona stuff? Timeline thing?
But please don't get distracted *jason* *corroberation* away from your stellar posting on bills corona fauci gof club here.

a reply to: Caled

Check. It's not exactly the first labtop to go rogue.