Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: Xcathdra

I thought this piece by Jim Rickards was interesting:

Rickards: I’ve Never Heard So Many Lies

Excerpts:

Western/US Narrative summarized:

Here’s the official U.S. narrative as echoed by the mainstream media: Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was unprovoked, Putin’s three-day blitzkrieg of Kyiv has failed, Russian forces are bogged down and valiant Ukrainian troops are putting up a powerful defense and regaining lost ground with the help of weapons from NATO.

In this version, President Zelenskyy is the new Churchill rallying patriots against an evil dictator. All of that is either entirely or mostly false.

Rickards' take on what's really going on:

Here’s the real story: Russia’s invasion is the end result of 14 years of provocation by the West, including repeated declarations that Ukraine will join NATO and a U.S.-backed coup d’état in 2014 that displaced a pro-Russian president.

Russia never planned a blitzkrieg on Kyiv. That’s a Western invention intended to make Putin look like a failure. In fact, Russia is slowly and methodically taking territory in the south and east of Ukraine in order to control the seacoasts, eliminate pro-fascist elements in Mariupol and establish pro-Russian autonomous zones in Donbas.

Let's start with this lie from The Kremlin.

" We have no plans to invade Ukraine "

Exactly this.

In the medical biohazard community there's patient zero, I think we can henceforth refer to "We have no plans to invade Ukraine" as Lie Zero.

Nope.. big can of NOPE!!!..

lie zero is either:
A. Post WW2 shafting by Nato
B. Broken deals after Soviet collapse
C. 9/11, war on terror, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, etc
D. Minsk agreement 🤝..

You get on of these 4.. C includes the weapons of mass destruction lie and all the others from that "reset"

originally posted by: LastFirst

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: Xcathdra

I thought this piece by Jim Rickards was interesting:

Rickards: I’ve Never Heard So Many Lies

Excerpts:

Western/US Narrative summarized:

Here’s the official U.S. narrative as echoed by the mainstream media: Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was unprovoked, Putin’s three-day blitzkrieg of Kyiv has failed, Russian forces are bogged down and valiant Ukrainian troops are putting up a powerful defense and regaining lost ground with the help of weapons from NATO.

In this version, President Zelenskyy is the new Churchill rallying patriots against an evil dictator. All of that is either entirely or mostly false.

Rickards' take on what's really going on:

Here’s the real story: Russia’s invasion is the end result of 14 years of provocation by the West, including repeated declarations that Ukraine will join NATO and a U.S.-backed coup d’état in 2014 that displaced a pro-Russian president.

Russia never planned a blitzkrieg on Kyiv. That’s a Western invention intended to make Putin look like a failure. In fact, Russia is slowly and methodically taking territory in the south and east of Ukraine in order to control the seacoasts, eliminate pro-fascist elements in Mariupol and establish pro-Russian autonomous zones in Donbas.

Let's start with this lie from The Kremlin.

" We have no plans to invade Ukraine "

Exactly this.

In the medical biohazard community there's patient zero, I think we can henceforth refer to "We have no plans to invade Ukraine" as Lie Zero.

Nope.. big can of NOPE!!!..

lie zero is either:
A. Post WW2 shafting by Nato
B. Broken deals after Soviet collapse
C. 9/11, war on terror, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, etc
D. Minsk agreement 🤝..

You get on of these 4.. C includes the weapons of mass destruction lie and all the others from that "reset"

It was the west that forcibly controlled half of Europe after ww2?

What 'broken deals'?

Did someone commit large scale terror attacks on American soil and attempt many more?

Did the minsk agreement specify that russia could invade Ukraine to steal land?



You have NOTHING.

But at least you can count to 4.



Please come again.

originally posted by: LastFirst

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: Xcathdra

I thought this piece by Jim Rickards was interesting:

Rickards: I’ve Never Heard So Many Lies

Excerpts:

Western/US Narrative summarized:

Here’s the official U.S. narrative as echoed by the mainstream media: Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was unprovoked, Putin’s three-day blitzkrieg of Kyiv has failed, Russian forces are bogged down and valiant Ukrainian troops are putting up a powerful defense and regaining lost ground with the help of weapons from NATO.

In this version, President Zelenskyy is the new Churchill rallying patriots against an evil dictator. All of that is either entirely or mostly false.

Rickards' take on what's really going on:

Here’s the real story: Russia’s invasion is the end result of 14 years of provocation by the West, including repeated declarations that Ukraine will join NATO and a U.S.-backed coup d’état in 2014 that displaced a pro-Russian president.

Russia never planned a blitzkrieg on Kyiv. That’s a Western invention intended to make Putin look like a failure. In fact, Russia is slowly and methodically taking territory in the south and east of Ukraine in order to control the seacoasts, eliminate pro-fascist elements in Mariupol and establish pro-Russian autonomous zones in Donbas.

Let's start with this lie from The Kremlin.

" We have no plans to invade Ukraine "

Exactly this.

In the medical biohazard community there's patient zero, I think we can henceforth refer to "We have no plans to invade Ukraine" as Lie Zero.

Nope.. big can of NOPE!!!..

lie zero is either:
A. Post WW2 shafting by Nato
B. Broken deals after Soviet collapse
C. 9/11, war on terror, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, etc
D. Minsk agreement 🤝..

You get on of these 4.. C includes the weapons of mass destruction lie and all the others from that "reset"

That is all

a reply to: LastFirst

Here's a free hint, re: "post WW2 NATO stuff"

In 1947, the USA had ONE entire division as occupation troops in the American zone of occupation in Germany.

The Soviets had several FIELD ARMIES (many divisions) ready to go in their zone of occupation in Germany.

We were ready to go home until the boorish behavior of the Russians, in particular the blockading of Berlin with intent of starving the city into submission, made everyone in the West realize we had a potentially deadly ideological conflict to deal with.

The blockade of Berlin by the Russians failed because western air power airlifted enough food to West Berlin.

U. S. Air Force in the Berlin Airlift:

And, ultimately, the West "dealt with" that ideological conflict.

That's what Vlad P. can't get over. His government at that time miscalculated and completely failed, enabling eastern Europe nations to enjoy sovereignty for the first time since the 1930s.

Vlad's problem. Not NATO's problem. And Ukraine should not be suffering because Putin is fixated on the 1980s.

Cheers

www.reddit.com... well its graphic so be forewarned so wont even try embedding but holy hell this is some clear drone footage , first stike wounds some of them (and they seem to leave them behind) but the 2nd? legit drops it through the sunroof of a moving car. has to be incredibly demoralizing for Russian forces to never know if a drone is going to quite literally drop a hand grenade in your lap

originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
www.reddit.com... well its graphic so be forewarned so wont even try embedding but holy hell this is some clear drone footage , first stike wounds some of them (and they seem to leave them behind) but the 2nd? legit drops it through the sunroof of a moving car. has to be incredibly demoralizing for Russian forces to never know if a drone is going to quite literally drop a hand grenade in your lap

well that sucks. but its what happens when you fight for a jerk.

Europe has 2 big announcements coming next week..

1 - The EU is announcing a full embargo of Russian gas (broad term).
2 - Sweden and Finland will announce (Wednesday i think) that they are joining NATO (Official announcement on May 17th)


Since Russia cut off Poland and Bulgaria -


* - Poland, Lithuania speed up gas link amid Russia supply worries

VILNIUS/WARSAW, Feb 28 (Reuters) - A natural gas pipeline called GIPL linking Poland and Lithuania will open on May 1, earlier than the scheduled mid-2022 start, linking the Polish grid with a route to a liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminal in Lithuania.

The earlier start was announced after Russia's invasion of Ukraine on Thursday gave rise to worries that Russian gas supplies to Europe could be cut.

Poland and Lithuania had been an discussing early start to the project for weeks amid the fears of energy supply disruption, senior government sources told Reuters.

"During the geopolitical tensions, linking the Baltic and Finnish gas markets with the European gas market guarantees energy security and independence for the entire region," Lithuanian Energy minister Dainius Kreivys said in a statement.

click link for article


* - Germany says it's ready to stop buying Russian oil, paving the way for the EU to impose a full embargo

German officials said the nation is now prepared to stop buying Russian oil, the Wall Street Journal reported, opening the door for the European Union to impose a fresh set of sanctions on Moscow.

In a Wednesday meeting, German representatives said they would pull back their prior objections to a full Russian oil embargo, as long as Berlin would have time to find alternatives to Russian supplies.

The pivot from Germany follows a new deal with Poland that will allow it to import oil from other global suppliers through Gdansk, a Polish port in the Baltic Sea, government officials announced Wednesday.

The infrastructure of this port allows for a direct replacement of Russian supplies as it connects to the PCK oil refinery in Schwedt, Germany, they said. Enabling alternative oil imports to reach Schwedt was a key piece to Germany lifting its opposition to an embargo.

Germany has already slashed its intake from Russia, which now accounts for 12% of Germany's oil consumption, down from 35% before Vladimir Putin launched his war on Ukraine, Germany Economic Minister Robert Habeck had said this week.

click link for article


* - New gas pipeline boosts Europe’s bid to ease Russian supply - Bulgaria/Greece

Mountainous and remote, the Greek-Bulgaria border once formed the southern corner of the Iron Curtain. Today, it’s where the European Union is redrawing the region’s energy map to ease its heavy reliance on Russian natural gas.

A new pipeline – built during the Covid-19 pandemic, tested and due to start commercial operation in June – will ensure that large volumes of gas will flow between the two countries in both directions to generate electricity, fuel industry and heat homes.

The energy link takes on greater importance following Moscow’s decision this week to cut off natural gas supplies to Poland and Bulgaria over a demand for ruble payments stemming from Western sanctions over the war of Ukraine.

The 180-kilometer (110-mile) project is the first of several planned gas interconnectors that will allow eastern European Union members and countries hoping to join the 27-nation bloc access to the global gas market.

In the short term, it’s Bulgaria’s backup.

The pipeline connection will give the country access to ports in neighboring Greece that are importing liquefied natural gas, or LNG, and also will bring gas from Azerbaijan through a new pipeline system that ends in Italy.

click link for article


* - The NATO Accession Sweden Never Saw Coming
Finland has taken the lead, but its famously skeptical neighbor is following.


* - An EU Embargo On Russian Oil Is Imminent

Members of the European Union are expected to agree on an embargo of Russian crude oil imports as early as next week, according to officials, in a move that would lay to rest a point of contention among its members.

Such a measure has been discussed for weeks—with the United States adding pressure on the group to do its part to stop funding Russia with its payments for oil and gas supplies.

The EU will continue to discuss the matter over the weekend, according to the New York Times, with the European Commission set to draft the finalized proposal to submit it to EU ambassadors for approval. Those ambassadors are scheduled to meet on Wednesday of next week, with final approval set to be delivered by the end of the week, anonymous EU officials told the New York Times.

There is no indication of how inclusive or complete an embargo would be, but it’s clear that some type of embargo is on the horizon.

The EU gets a quarter of its crude oil from Russia. Analysts have suggested that if the EU instituted a full ban on crude oil, it would result in a significant financial hit and that Russia may be unable to find enough willing buyers to take the oil that normally heads to the EU. Such a financial hit could hamper Russian President Vladimir Putin’s ability to continue to fund the war in Ukraine.

There are longer-term implications as well. If Russia fails to find an outlet for all of its crude oil in the wake of an EU crude oil embargo, Russia could be forced to slash production—production that may be unable to come back online.]/ex]

edit on 30-4-2022 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)

* - Insider claims Putin 'will undergo CANCER OPERATION in near future'

Vladimir Putin may be forced to give up control of the war in Ukraine for 'days' as he is reportedly set for cancer surgery. The Russian dictator will nominate hardline Security Council secretary and ex-FSB head Nikolai Patrushev to take control of the invasion while he is under the knife.

* - Russia’s Putin To Hand Over Keys To War While He Has Cancer Surgery: Report

New York (Knewz) — Vladimir Putin’s cancer surgery will force him to hand over power in the Ukraine war “for days,” a “Kremlin insider” told the Daily Mail.

Putin will reportedly put hardline Security Council head and ex-FSB chief Nikolai Patrushev in power while he is dealing with surgery. Patrushev, 70, has played a big role in the Ukraine war thus far and convinced Putin that Kyiv is overrun by neo-Nazis, the Daily Mail reports.

A year and a half ago, General SVR reported that Putin is suffering from abdominal cancer and Parkinson’s. The Daily Mail reports that Putin has put off the surgery and it won’t happen before the Victory Day commemoration of Russia’s World War II victory in Red Square on May 9.

The surgery was originally scheduled for the second of April but has been pushed back, SVR reports.

“Putin was recommended to undergo surgery, the date of which is being discussed and agreed,” the outlet stated. “There seems to be no particular urgency, but it cannot be delayed either.”

It added: “The Russian President Vladimir Putin has oncology, and the latest problems identified during [his latest] examination are associated with this disease.”

click link for article


Dedicated thread to discuss this in detail has been made -

* - www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Xcathdra

Any idea of the veracity of the telegram channel, General SVR?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Xcathdra

Any idea of the veracity of the telegram channel, General SVR?

I dont and have never used telegram. What I do know is Russia government officials use it a lot. It looks like the account for General_SVR was created December 10th 2020.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Lots of folks use it.

Supposedly pretty secure.

I honestly dont know either way.

a reply to: Xcathdra
That is huge if true.

And a huge opportunity for a coup,maybe involving a hospital accident.
Putins paranoia must be soaring to new heights thinkng of the possibilities.

Damn I hope that doesn't mean he will be more likely to do something crazy before he goes to hospital..

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Well if he does in fact have cancer it would depend on where the cancer is located. If the cancer is in his noggin it could cause him to act different.

This is a live link on the ongoing attrition of Russian forces:

minusrus.com...

Cheers

originally posted by: Sthrndream
This is a live link on the ongoing attrition of Russian forces:

minusrus.com...

Cheers

Those numbers are nothing short of stunning.

Russian forces are not large. During the Cold War, the Soviet Union maintained a military of about 3.5 million. That military is long gone. Today, Russia maintains a total military of about 900,000, of which 280,000 are in the army, according to the latest figures from the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.

Russia reformed its military after poor operational performance in the 2008 invasion of Georgia, Russia won but with many tactical shortcomings that showed a lack of skill and training. The downsized military increased the proportion of volunteers (called “contract soldiers” in Russia) to about two-thirds, improved training, and streamlined the bloated officer corps.

a reply to: Sthrndream

If the personnel casualty estimate is anywhere near correct, Russia is in trouble.

Cheers

a reply to: Xcathdra

The Poland - Lithuania gas link passes through the 'Suwalki Gap'. In range of artillery fire from the Kaliningrad Oblast and Belarus.

The bit about Germany getting gas from a Polish port is ironic, after Germany, in pursuit of its national interests at cost to the EU and NATO, sought to get the Nordstream gas pipeline in operation so they could get gas that bypassed Poland. Nordstream 2 worked out well, eh? Maybe Merkel the know-it-all should have listened to that awful Mr. Trump

Cheers