Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

Russians Against Kremlin: Soldiers Captured In Ukraine Gather To Fight Against Putin Regime

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

BS...

Russian media talked about the Russian attack on the station. When the Russian government changed the story to blame Ukraine, Russian media then back tracked and started to blame Ukraine. The only problem is the news story was already posted several hours before the sudden denial.


Pro-Kremlin Media U-Turns Over Kramatorsk Station Attack in Ukraine

Pro-Russian media outlets were reported to have said Russian missiles struck Ukrainian forces at a railway station in eastern Ukraine, before Moscow denied responsibility for the attack.

Ukraine's state railway company said more than 30 people had been killed and over 100 wounded in Friday's strike on Kramatorsk train station, where thousands of civilians had gathered to evacuate to safer parts of the country. Ukraine has blamed Russia for the attack.

But pro-Russian Telegram channels appeared to tell a different story in posts no longer in the channel's timelines, although screenshots are still available.

A post still available on Friday afternoon on the channel of "Vоенкор diZa," the account of a correspondent for the ANNA news agency who reports for Russia's Channel 1, linked the attack to the supposed transportation of Ukrainian military equipment.

Soon after the strike, the post said there was "information that the night before, the Armed Forces of Ukraine drove a trainload of equipment there. This information is being verified."

click link for article and evidence.



A Russian rocket that struck a Ukrainian train station and killed dozens of people had 'For the children' written on its side

A Russian rocket that struck a train station and killed dozens in eastern Ukraine on Friday had a Russian phrase meaning "For the children" written on its side, Ukrainian officials said.

At least 50 people were killed and over 100 were injured after two Russian rockets hit the train station in Kramatorsk, which is in the Donetsk oblast.

Ukraine's communications center tweeted that two children were killed in the attack.

The phrase — seen scrawled in white on the side of a purported Russian rocket in photos and video from the scene of the attack — translates as a message that the missile was sent in vengeance for children, not that it was intended to be used on children.

Russian propaganda has accused Ukrainian troops of killing children even as Russian forces fire on civilian targets, including a theater in Mariupol that was serving as a shelter for residents and children.

Scores had flocked to the train station on Friday to evacuate from the eastern Donbas region, as Western intelligence and NATO warned Russian troops are repositioning away from the northern Kyiv region and will focus their efforts on the east.

Photos and videos circulating on social media from Ukrainian officials and journalists showed a blood-stained sidewalk, strewn with luggage, strollers, and other belongings.

"Russians knew that the train station in Kramatorsk was full of civilians waiting to be evacuated. Yet they [struck] it with a ballistic missile, killing at least 30 and injuring at least a hundred people," Ukraine's Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba tweeted after the strike.

He added: "This was a deliberate slaughter. We will bring each war criminal to justice."

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
Curious. What are all the Putin nard-polishers saying today now that the Kremlin has said it's a 'huge tragedy' on the troop losses.

I would assume they are calling it fake news.

Not a peep so far, like it never happened, or they didn't just spend 6 weeks calling us liars every day.

Ukrainian Armed Forces Ensemble

a reply to: GravitySucks

Oh, Lordie. Russian's capture someone with a swastika tattoo, and this proves their point that Ukraine is a Nazi country.

Russia, invading and murdering people for preposterous reasons for a hundred years.

⚠ Warning: Disturbing Footage ⚠

Russia is denying it is targeting civilians. Here is drone footage that has proof to the contrary. A car driving down the road, the Russians shoot at it, the car does a U-turn the man driving gets out with his hands up and then is shot dead in cold blood and then Russians are seen removing the his child and a friend of the family from the vehicle. The dead man's wife was also killed in the car (both in front of their small child). Little did they know a drone was hoovering capturing it all:



Just an addition. A reporter asking Putin why all his opponents end up dead, in prison, or poisoned, his body posture is very telling as he clumsily doesn't answer the question two times:

In the 1st event of its kind in this conflict so far, a Russian Orion UAV was downed by the Ukrainian Air Defences. This is a very modern Russian Medium-Altitude, Long-Endurance (MALE) Unmanned Aerial Vehicle, and most notably is armed, not merely for reconnaissance.

photos at the link

twitter.com...

originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: GravitySucks

Oh, Lordie. Russian's capture someone with a swastika tattoo, and this proves their point that Ukraine is a Nazi country.

Russia, invading and murdering people for preposterous reasons for a hundred years.

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That's a Russian dude.

a reply to: andy06shake

Yep. That's probably it!

From ISW today:

Ukrainian forces continued to hold out against Russian assaults in areas of southwestern and eastern Mariupol, notably in the port and the Azovstal Metallurgy plant, respectively.

Ukrainian forces continued to repel daily Russian assaults in Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts.

A Russian Tochka-U missile struck a civilian evacuation point at the Kramatorsk rail station in eastern Ukraine, killing at least 50 and wounding around a hundred evacuees.

Russian forces continued attacks south of Izyum toward Slovyansk and Barvinkove but did not take any new territory.

Ukrainian counterattacks have likely taken further territory west of Kherson, threatening Russian control of the city.

And...

The Ukrainian General Staff reported that more than 80% of personnel in some unspecified Russian units previously involved in combat operations are refusing to return to the front

Russia to mobilize 60,000 reservists as it sets its sights on eastern Ukraine: senior defense official

This on the heels of Russia admitting it's lost a helluva lot of people.

You're going to need a lot more sunflower seeds, Ukraine.

Pardon my ignorance.

When was the last time **PUTIN** talked with anyone on the other side of his conflict?

a reply to: GravitySucks


russia has been trying to increase it's force numbers for several weeks without much success, the latest move is forcibly calling back anyone that retired between 1012 and 2016.

Many of these folks can never be used in battle again, and russia says the rest will get 3 months of refresher training (conditioning) before deployment.

Ukraine also appears to have 1000 new T72s at it's disposal, along with 10k ATGMs and 20k MANPADS and it's S300 fleet has been replenished.

Throwing more retirees into the meat grinder isn't likely to accomplish much for russia.

originally posted by: JinMI
Pardon my ignorance.

When was the last time pootin talked with anyone on the other side of his conflict?

He has sent envoys, but my understanding is that putin is still refusing to talk to or meet with Zelinsky directly.

a reply to: GravitySucks

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BeyondWords

Russia is ramping up its war effort in eastern Ukraine, and a senior U.S. defense official told reporters Friday that Moscow could look to recruit as many as 60,000 soldiers to join the fight. 

The official said the Pentagon has seen "indications" that Russia is looking to launch a "mobilization phase" as it refits soldiers in Russia and Belarus.

Fox resorting to CNN reporting?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: JinMI
Pardon my ignorance.

When was the last time pootin talked with anyone on the other side of his conflict?

He has sent envoys, but my understanding is that putin is still refusing to talk to or meet with Zelinsky directly.

Alright, thank you

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: GravitySucks

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BeyondWords

Russia is ramping up its war effort in eastern Ukraine, and a senior U.S. defense official told reporters Friday that Moscow could look to recruit as many as 60,000 soldiers to join the fight. 

The official said the Pentagon has seen "indications" that Russia is looking to launch a "mobilization phase" as it refits soldiers in Russia and Belarus.

Fox resorting to CNN reporting?

As opposed to "a rando on twitter said?"

We get too much of that already.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: GravitySucks


russia has been trying to increase it's force numbers for several weeks without much success, the latest move is forcibly calling back anyone that retired between 1012 and 2016...

Throwing more retirees into the meat grinder isn't likely to accomplish much for russia.

Especially not the people who retired closer to 1012 who are past their prime. Just kidding but yes, putting more bodies in the meat grinder will mostly result in more bodies getting ground up, especially if they are less trained or experienced reservists.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: GravitySucks

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BeyondWords

Russia is ramping up its war effort in eastern Ukraine, and a senior U.S. defense official told reporters Friday that Moscow could look to recruit as many as 60,000 soldiers to join the fight. 

The official said the Pentagon has seen "indications" that Russia is looking to launch a "mobilization phase" as it refits soldiers in Russia and Belarus.

Fox resorting to CNN reporting?

As opposed to "a rando on twitter said?"

We get too much of that already.

All the same to me.


The differences are few.

a reply to: Arbitrageur


Got me, I did a typo.

Not gonna fix it now either.

Take that.