Saving UKRAINE is NOT Worth a War Between the USA and RUSSIA.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Boadicea

"Tyler Durden"?

Totally trustworthy.

The news portion of Zero Hedge is written by a group of editors who collectively write under the pseudonym "Tyler Durden, or Robert Meyers", a character from the novel and film Fight Club.

Used to be anonymous: In September 2009, news reports identified Daniel Ivandjiiski, a Bulgarian-born, U.S.-educated, former hedge-fund trader, who was barred from the securities industry in September 2008 for earning US$780 from an insider trade by FINRA, as the founder of the site, and reported that "Tyler Durden" was a pseudonym for Ivandjiisk.

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ETA: From MSNBC:

Where Zelensky Is Open to 'Compromise' On Russia's 4 Demands to End War

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky won't accept Russia's demands for ending the war unconditionally, but he's open to trying to find a compromise that could include not pursuing NATO membership.

Joining NATO has been a foreign policy priority for Ukraine, but Zelensky seemed to imply to ABC News that Ukraine could be willing to negotiate on the issue. He acknowledged that NATO is not "ready to accept Ukraine" and that he has no plans to beg for admittance. However, Zelensky won't give in to every demand Russia has and so far, peace talks have yielded few results.

Along with "cooling down" to the idea of joining NATO, Zelensky told ABC News that there's room for negotiating on the occupied territories and unrecognized republics. While Russia's pushed for international recognition of Crimea as part of Russia since its annexation in 2014, very few have gotten on board.

a reply to: Annee

Read the comment following yours.

And maybe follow the links to the sources cited in the original link, instead of finding ways to discredit them.

a reply to: Boadicea

Yeah. Your poster boy Putin is losing and wants out.

Loser.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Annee

Read the comment following yours.

And maybe follow the links to the sources cited in the original link, instead of finding ways to discredit them.

Sometimes people discredit themselves.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Boadicea

Yeah. Your poster boy Putin is losing and wants out.

Loser.

You gonna sign up to fight or complain?

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Boadicea

Yeah. Your poster boy Putin is losing and wants out.

Loser.

You gonna sign up to fight or complain?

And you?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Boadicea

Yeah. Your poster boy Putin is losing and wants out.

Loser.

You gonna sign up to fight or complain?

And you?

You posted from the wrong account.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

You gonna sign up and fight for your poster boy Putin?

Me?

I'm 59.

Waiting for a knee replacement. And a second new hip.

Don't speak the language.

So, no.

You gonna sign up?

Grow up.

T &C's prevent me from saying anything further.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0


Funny.

I posted TO a 'wrong' account.

Wrong about nearly everything related to russia invading Ukraine.

a reply to: carewemust

Most polls arent to be believed anyway.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: carewemust

Most polls arent to be believed anyway.

Cause you don't like the results?

Or do you have a particular problem with this one?

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: carewemust

Most polls arent to be believed anyway.

True, but they affect how people feel and in many cases, what actions they take.

Right now, most people wish the "insurrection" to stop Joe Biden assuming his illegitimate presidency, had succeeded.

But no mainstream pollster would dare ask that question.

Polling organizations are run by Democrats, and they know in advance what the answer to that question would be.

It won't matter in 11 months, because if the USA is still here and Biden is still President, his impeachment/removal is a certainty.

a reply to: carewemust

Just let them go. They'll run out of steam soon.
Okay you two, break it up.
Seriously, the more I hear about Ukraine, the less i'm willing to care about it. And there's some kind of back story we're not hearing. You know, its been theorized that Putin has gone renegade against the WEF/ NWO and might be all that's left to defy them. Our government is owned by them although Trump was not on their payroll unlike Biden who is. The Rothchild's are khazarians which came from there.... satanists and pagans. Pretty scary when a criminal like Putin might be the good guy in this fight, or at least the least evil.

a reply to: carewemust

As of the moment...I'm in a psychological warfare mode with Putin's Russia and his scarce authoritarian-loving allies.

I use propaganda YouTube video clips to prop-up the Ukraine Army's morale for leading the just cause, and I also have posted threats (here on ATS) of using ET alien invasion warfare against Putin's Army in Ukraine.

Too bad Putin cut-off most of the Russian people's access to true information links.

So I have to go on a wing and a prayer...all the while, hoping that I'm in the right place, at the right time, to make all hell break loose on Putin's invasion army in Ukraine.

Nukes are a complete non issue.

Putin can't and won't use them...nobody can.

It's mutually assured destruction.

Something which offers no tactical, economic, moral, or geopolitical advantages to Russia in any context.

The use them, we use them...end of humanity.

It is a non starter.

a reply to: Godabove09

What if he uses a tactical nuclear weapon?

He may well think that wouldn't trigger MAD.

He'd probably be right.

a reply to: Godabove09

that's not true

it could be kept in theater

once we show we have the resolve to use tactical nukes he might be up for a frank chat

originally posted by: noscopebacon
a reply to: Godabove09

that's not true

it could be kept in theater

once we show we have the resolve to use tactical nukes he might be up for a frank chat

Vladimir Putin is really attached to the Kremlin building for some reason. President Trump told him if invaded Ukraine on his watch, that building would be the first one he'd turn to rubble...guaranteed.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: noscopebacon
a reply to: Godabove09

that's not true

it could be kept in theater

once we show we have the resolve to use tactical nukes he might be up for a frank chat

Vladimir Putin is really attached to the Kremlin building for some reason. President Trump told him if invaded Ukraine on his watch, that building would be the first one he'd turn to rubble...guaranteed.

No, it's more like current missile defense has been integrated into one group. So Putin isn't sure just how many missiles would actually get through. The United States pursues missile defense cooperation with a number of allies and partners, including Australia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Germany, Israel, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Republic of Korea, Qatar, Romania, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Spain, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, and the United Kingdom. The United States also closely cooperates with NATO.

The former treaty limited missile defense to 100 interceptors On December 13, 2001, U.S. President George W. Bush, who argued that Washington and Moscow no longer needed to base their relationship on their ability to destroy each other, announced that the United States would withdraw from the ABM Treaty, claiming that it prevented U.S. development of defenses against possible terrorist or "rogue-state" ballistic missile attacks. During his presidential campaign, Bush said he would offer amendments on the treaty to Russia and would withdraw the United States from the accord if Russia rejected the proposed changes. However, the Bush administration never proposed amendments to the treaty in its talks with Russia on the subject. Although of "unlimited duration," the treaty permits a state-party to withdraw from the accord if "extraordinary events…have jeopardized its supreme interests." The U.S. withdrawal took effect June 13, 2002, and the treaty is no longer in force.

So there has been 20 years of development in this area and it isnt just limited to missiles but does include space based lasers which is currently being tested to e deployed in 2023. There is a lot going on in this area we were not aware of other than some thaad testing.