Why are atheist so angry with God?

I must correct myself...Theism it appears doesn't technically only apply to the Abrahamic God. But all of the religions that ascribe to A god are actually theists..I suppose. Even though I learned in Philosophy class that theism was the study of the Abrahamic 'God'. So atheist would be someone who is anti- or against ANY 'God' or 'Gods' as well as the religion that promotes them.

Theist definition: belief in the existence of a god or gods specifically : belief in the existence of one God viewed as the creative source of the human race and the world who transcends yet is immanent in the world.

So if we add 'A' to theist we come up with Atheist..Pretty sure the 'A' is anti or against.


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a reply to: neoholographic

I have been given an image of my Holy Spirit.



She looks like me except I'm a grown man, not a baby girl starring in a horror movie.

Now insert Bible quote about death.

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."

Ecclesiastes 12:7

I don't take comfort in life after death when I read that. Do you?

My main question, is my Holy Spirit an individual consciousness separate from me?

The blurry blue letters in the picture seem to tell me, I'M YOU.

Everybody must have a Holy Spirit...

Sounds like there's only 1 Father in Heaven, per Matthew 23:9.

The Father, Holy Spirit, and Son combined is what I hear is called God. Apparently only 1 of those 3 lives on Earth.

originally posted by: InachMarbank
a reply to: neoholographic

I have been given an image of my Holy Spirit.

She looks like me except I'm a grown man, not a baby girl starring in a horror movie.

Now insert Bible quote about death.

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."

Ecclesiastes 12:7

I don't take comfort in life after death when I read that. Do you?

My main question, is my Holy Spirit an individual consciousness separate from me?

The blurry blue letters in the picture seem to tell me, I'M YOU.

Everybody must have a Holy Spirit...

Sounds like there's only 1 Father in Heaven, per Matthew 23:9.

The Father, Holy Spirit, and Son combined is what I hear is called God. Apparently only 1 of those 3 lives on Earth.

I still take comfort, it's the flesh that goes back to earth but my Spirit goes back to God in a brand new incorruptible body....

We are not our bodies we are a spirit with a soul In a body.

The way I understand it the Holy Spirit, or the Holy Ghost as some refer to it is part of the Trinity along with God the Father and God the Son, and its purpose is as The Comforter (in Abrahamic faith) If we indeed possess a spirit, holy or otherwise, that is the thing that animates us, our soul.If it leaves us..we die. Some also claim and believe that if its a soul that has not been properly spent in life that the souls essence can be seen leaving the body upon death being dispersed back into the whole. Yet if the soul has been properly spent it will not be seen leaving the body as there isn't anything left, and even the body vanishes. a reply to: InachMarbank

a reply to: MiddleInsite

No offense intended, but I think this is one of the first things I've agreed with you on! I love it. Well said!

a reply to: Wookiep

I'm Conservative. I voted for Trump.

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: VierEyes
a reply to: neoholographic

I'm a former atheist. Atheists are not angry at God and they don't secretly believe in God.

Atheists are sick of having religion shoved down their throats.

Atheist have religion shoved down their throats? Really?

All atheists do is talk about God. Just about every debate on YouTube with an atheist is about God.

Richard Dawkins and other atheist can't stop talking about God.

Most atheist books and websites are about God.

You can't be an atheist if God doesn't exist. Atheist are defined by God.

I have debated atheist and all they talk about is God and religion. Nobody has to force anything down their throats.

Definition of atheist
: a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or any gods : one who subscribes to or advocates atheism

www.merriam-webster.com...

You can't be an atheist if God doesn't exist!

Look at you, telling people what they can and can't do. Maybe you don't speak for God and never have. I think that's the most reasonable conclusion anyone could derive from this exchange.

a reply to: neoholographic

" Why are atheist so angry with God? "


Because they have Foolishly Abandoned All Hope and are Heading for an Eternity of Hell Literally .

a reply to: GoShredAK

Why were Jesus and Lazarus resurrected after they died? It was their Earthly bodies that were revived right?

a reply to: Vroomfondel
You also seemed to have missed the point.

It may be true for some but not all.

A true atheist isn't worried about "what awaits them if they are wrong", as you stated.

Those who might be calling themselves atheists because it is trendy or want to shock some people might do so but then they are not really atheists.

originally posted by: InachMarbank
a reply to: GoShredAK

Why were Jesus and Lazarus resurrected after they died? It was their Earthly bodies that were revived right?

It's a good question...

From my understanding Lazarus yes but Jesus no....Lazarus will get his new body when the dead in Christ are risen...

I think Jesus appeared to the disciples in his old body to show the divine receipts on his hands and side....He could have showed up as a blinding light but that wouldn't have helped the disciples much.

1 Corinthians 15:53-55

"For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

a reply to: didntasktobeborned

Have you ever considered it is the other way around, meaning when you leave (as in die), then so goes your soul?

Why resurrect Jesus if his body isn't needed?

There shows just short 3 and 4 day windows between the death and resurrection of Jesus and Lazarus.

We're not any more angry at your god than any of the other 2000 gods around the world we also don't believe in.

a reply to: neoholographic

Many people outwardly turn away from God, tell others there is NO God and actually internally believe but hate and blame there version of God for something that has happened to them all the while spiking other people with there hatred.

Some are more like kid's running away in a tantrum and turning there back on God.

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Then there are those that have been taught that there is No God or that God is a fairy tale, these are believers that have been taught to believe something else than in God, most of them being simple minded folk really put scientists on the plinth were religious leaders used to stand and think of science as an all powerful religion that can do anything and answer any question.

And then there are the Psychopath and Sociopath class such as the Atheist Communists (NOTE I am talking of the ATHEIST communists the first church's were pretty much communes identical in most ways to a kibbutz were it was possible and a church was actually a community rather than a temple with a priest but we have wandered a very long ways over the past 1900 plus years and now our faith very little resembles the original form of Christianity, sharing wealth, caring for the poor, the elderly and the sick clothing, housing and feeding all members of the church community while also doing good work's beyond it to help others and bring the word to them, the original church was also not one of those cult's that only accept wealthy people like we find today with umpteen false messiah's leading there blind spiritual flock's astray).

But that is the Atheists and from a personal perspective and NOTE I do not put Agnostics into the Atheist barrel, they are those that only believe what they have seen or know to be true, they are just people in the dark searching for there own truth's and I wish them well.


ON the Religious side we have plenty of bad and crazy and lunatic and abuse of faith and also a lot of false leaders that were probably atheists themselves but did so much harm because they were in positions of power and able to abuse them for there own agenda's.

In history there were the Borgias, later not at the start of his disagreement with Rome but in his Later life Martin Luthor was a bit evil even perhaps possessed drawing vile images and relishing in the hatred he was spreading, at first he had a good argument as it was about spreading the good news as Christians are supposed to do but later it was about avenging himself upon the authority of his former Church.

The Witch hunter and there is of course another Religion that is worthy of note and perhaps more powerful in the corporal world of today than the church is it's enemy of several hundred years, one out of which such notorious cults as the Hellfire Club, the Skull and Bones and several other nefarious sects arose THE FREEMASONS though they began as an innocent enough Germany Stone Mason's guild that gained royal patronage and made the mistake of making the Prince there chief member which made it fashionable for all kinds of never do well's to join and bring there more evil cults under it's umbrella as it was perverted away from it's original Stone Mason Guild origin's (this was actually back during the period of the Hansiatic League and there may be links' to that as well but yes they will make claims that they are from ancient Egypt or even that they were the builders of Solomon's Temple Revelation 3:9 speaks of THEM in no uncertain terms).

Of course there are also many other religions, Buddhism, Jainism, Zoroastrianism (now practiced by an extreme minority of the worlds population but it once played a very important role in history), Islam, Hinduism and many other's such as Taoism (and other nature spirit and ancestral spirit worship) and even modern religions created out of the vacuum created by the anti religion establishment (Driven by Masons actually all out of the so called age of reason, some good came out of it but also a lot of bad) such as the vile rebirth of witchcraft and Hollywood's agenda of glorifying it to plant the seed of evil in children's minds.

a reply to: GoShredAK

I'm still seeking God, but I believe that means the human Earthly body must become immortal, "this mortal must put on immortality."

a reply to: daskakik

I disagree.

An atheist, by definition, is a person who does not believe in God, or gods.

That definition makes no reference to what awaits us in the afterlife. The concept of heaven and hell, or some kind of afterlife, is not tied directly to the existence of God. In Christian religions the path to heaven is through Jesus Christ. But there are other religions, some monotheistic some not, who have a different path to heaven. So the concept of what awaits us in the afterlife is not solely a result of belief in the God of Abraham, or of any specific God or gods.

For example, some Native Americans believed in a supreme spirit, and some believed everything had a spirit that should be worshipped and respected. Both had a concept of a final reward in the afterlife for a life well spent.

Because they don't believe. They're very "educated/trained", by others. Thinking for yourself? Doesn't get anyone a piece of paper, to have framed. They're very "enlightened" and are "emotionally" against things, they have no experience with. Which is not very "scientific".
Which makes them emotionally weak, and just "chaps their hide"!.. Because the "logic" and their "science" doesn't add up!
But mostly?... Because they can not "prove", He/it, doesn't exist.

300 hundred years ago? "Science", was trying to "prove" God.
Today? Science is trying to disprove God.
Mostly with hypothesis/"educated guesses". All an "education" is?... Is you know how to do "tricks, for a treat'. Very few, if any, of your "master instructors", have ever lived the life they believe in.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
I disagree.

Doesn't mean you are right.

I am a spiritual atheist. I don't believe in god and I do believe in the afterlife, it just isn't governed by a supreme deity.

That still doesn't mean the Christian belief of the afterlife worries me. There would be no reason for it to anger me. I don't believe in it.

Anyone, that claims to be an "atheist"? Isn't being truthful, or "scientific", with themselves.
Nobody needs to defend themselves, or their "belief" from something that doesn't exist.
To be an atheist? Is to be anti-science.

originally posted by: InachMarbank
a reply to: GoShredAK

I'm still seeking God, but I believe that means the human Earthly body must become immortal, "this mortal must put on immortality."

So maybe it is more of an upgrade not an entirely new body.....either way it is very exciting to think about the experience of a new life immortal and incorruptible!

Seeking God is a fun adventure......it is true if you lean towards Him He will lean toward you.......

I think praying to Jesus specifically, honest and humble in your heart it is very very powerful and that's when things begin to happen....

It's easy for me to believe....when I was a 12 or 13 year old kid I had just gotten officially saved and a few days later I was curled in a ball on the couch with really a really bad cramp or something in my stomach for some reason......

when it didn't go away it was freaking me out and it hurt so I decided in that moment I would try praying to Jesus who I just learned about......

The moment I finished a short prayer basically asking "Jesus if you're there, please make this pain go away" the pain vanished completely and I straightened out and got up and started jumping around and singing and really just beside myself because it actually worked!

That was over 20 years ago and I still believe just as strongly.

I have found a sense of peace and security in my soul that I have come to recognize as the Holy Spirit through my relationship with God through Jesus Christ..