Why are atheist so angry with God?

Because they battle within themselves, they battle with uncertainty in a world that tells them God doesn't exist and the conditions of the world make them believe maybe that might be true. Because they battle in their hearts, thinking they have been abandoned by God or are not good enough. People tend to lash out at others when they are hurt or feel like they see the bad things in others that they also see in themselves. It's far easier to attack the outside source of those feelings than change what is in their heart. I know there are many other reasons, but I also know it rarely has anything to do with God or other people, that's a problem inside their own hearts.

originally posted by: olaru12


To be fair, I've never had an atheist come to my door with pamphlets asking me a bunch of personal questions.

But the atheist creation story (abiogenesis/evolution) is already taught in school, no need to go door to door really.

I'm not angry but one of these days you are going to push it to far and I'm gonna set the dogs on you. This is private property....if you want to talk to me call me first or at least send a text.

They believe there is enduring prosperity to be gained from coming to realize a higher power.. no need to get angry, they are usually doing it with genuine purpose.

originally posted by: cooperton


They believe there is enduring prosperity to be gained from coming to realize a higher power.. no need to get angry, they are usually doing it with genuine purpose.

I know all about "Witnessing for the Lord" I was raised in Texas as a Southern Baptist. Genuine purpose can also be unwanted and trespassing. I'm not angry but Is it to much to ask to be left alone to practice my own religion with out control freaks trying to change me. I'm not an athiest!!

Mind your own business!!

originally posted by: olaru12

I know all about "Witnessing for the Lord" I was raised in Texas as a Southern Baptist. Genuine purpose can also be unwanted and trespassing. I'm not angry but Is it to much to ask to be left alone to practice my own religion with out control freaks trying to change me. I'm not an athiest!!

Mind your own business!!

I'm from an area where there's none of that so I can't relate. I also like when anyone is enthusiastic about any belief, it makes for good conversation as long as they're objective enough

originally posted by: neoholographic
I see some of the same people in every thread about God or any mention about Jesus Christ, get so angry at a God they say doesn't exist.

I’m an atheist and probably one of the ‘same people’ you are referring to. However, I’m not angry at God or Jesus, for the simple and obvious reason that I can’t be angry with something that doesn’t exist.

If I get angry, it’s with people like you who believe in something that is supposed to be so important and eternal….blindly without logic, without evidence. Or who claim God is love and cares for everyone. WHich is utter horsesh*t. No God would allow children, small children, to be abused. Ever. Yet this ‘God’ does.

The bible isn’t evidence - none of the anecdotes, parables or stories are testable. And the religious will use this as support for their beliefs, morals and behaviours, where the latter 2 should come from your interaction with society, not a book from 2000 years ago.

It's because they know God exists. Everyone knows God exists.

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No they don’t - no one does. Not even you or the others who say they just ‘know’. Technically we’re all agnostic by default; you guys just claim you know.

I’m happy to be corrected if there’s evidence but so far there is zero.

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: saadad

Once again, for those who have not been paying attention or who cannot wrap their heads around the concept: atheists don't care about something that does not exist.

Sure they do. All atheist do is talk about God who they claim doesn't exist. If you asked 100 people on the street, what's an atheist, God will be mentioned in some way 99% of the time.

You can't be an atheist if God doesn't exist.

Like I said, this is why atheist are so angry at God. Have you ever watched a Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens debate? They talk about God. They're angry.

The Bible tells us why:

Romans 1:20 “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”

Atheist know God exists. They clearly understand this and the knowledge of God is in their conscious. Atheists are angry because they hate the fact that they can't remove the truth of God's existence from their conscious.

Maybe it's time for some atheists to start accepting the truth of God and the Grace given through Christ and stop resisting what their conscious knows to be true.

Thanks for the laugh, but none of what you wrote is true about me. I can't speak for other atheists, but I have far better things to do with my time than talk "all the time" (What? Why?) about something that doesn't exist.
I do however think that a great many theists want atheists to be angry for reasons that are just baffling to me.

originally posted by: noonebutme


If I get angry, it’s with people like you who believe in something that is supposed to be so important and eternal….blindly without logic, without evidence.

Bro there is about 500,000 miles.. MILES... of neural circuitry compacted into our brain to allow our consciousness to have a material interface. This requires the work of a Master Electrician. There is proof all over you just have to recognize it.

And not all people believe blindly. To quote Carl Jung... "I don't need to believe... I know"

youtu.be...

originally posted by: cooperton
Bro there is about 500,000 miles.. MILES... of neural circuitry compacted into our brain

Have a link to that statement? I am trying to find it but cannot.

…to allow our consciousness to have a material interface.

Who says consciousness needs a material interface? Are you implying it’s separate from the material body? I have not seen anything to suggest it is. In fact, so far as I have seen, consciousness is a result of the biological processes innate in our brain. There’s several papers and links on the net about this. And my own experience with having an operation implied as much; as soon as I went under general, i was out and effectively ceased to exist, mentally. I woke up and a couple hours had passed. No dreaming, no blackness, just void… a ‘null’ for 2 hours. To me that is a very clear piece of evidence that consciousness is tied directly to the functioning of the brain, nothing esoteric.

This requires the work of a Master Electrician.

Why? Why does it require a ‘master’ electrician? Oh and the pathways are biological - so maybe you meant a master biologist.

There is proof all over you just have to recognize it.

You mean faith. There is no proof of God or the soul, only belief.

And not all people believe blindly. To quote Carl Jung... "I don't need to believe... I know"

Uhm… that’s the exact point I am making about the religious; they claim to know, even though they don’t.

ANd you don’t know what happens when you die, just like 100% of all alive people today.

A good image to summarise the arguments of the OP, in my opinion.

originally posted by: neoholographic
I see some of the same people in every thread about God or any mention about Jesus Christ, get so angry at a God they say doesn't exist. The Bible tells us why they're so angry.

It's because they know God exists. Everyone knows God exists. The Bible says this:

Romans 1:20 “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”

What this is saying is, on that day of Judgement, you will not be able to say,"God, I didn't know" or "God, I didn't understand."

This goes to the heart as to why people who say God doesn't exist are so angry at God. I have never debated people that are more angry than atheist. A woman believes in God and it gives her comfort when a child dies and she's an idiot for believing in some imaginary guy in the sky.

Why does it bother atheists that people get comfort in their faith in God? If you don't believe, fine but why so angry not just at them but mostly at God you say doesn't exist?

Again, it's because they know God exists. They hate the fact that they know God exists. They don't just want to be separate from God, they want God removed from their conscious.They don't want the knowledge of God's existence and of their spiritual nature.

This is the tower of Babel, mystery Babylon and now the human fraternity of the pope and imam.

The flesh or carnal mind wants to do as it pleases and it wants to be a law unto itself. I talk about this in this thread:

The spiritual mind vs the carnal mind
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The Bible says,"THE INVISIBLE THINGS OF HIM" are clearly seen and understood by us.

This is why they're so angry at God who they say doesn't exist. They know He exists.

God through our spiritual minds is constantly known to us. So no matter what they do, that voice enters their mind. "You know that God exists." "You know that Jesus is the Son of God." "You know you are spirit."

This is the knowledge of God that sears their conscious like a hot iron. The Bible says:

1 Timothy 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

So when you see people so angry at God they claim doesn't exist, it's because their conscious is seared by their knowledge of God and their spiritual nature.

They want to live in a world without the knowledge of God but they can't because it's God's Spirit that sustains us. It gives us life. Your carnal mind is dead, it's nothing once you die. You will only be left with your spiritual mind and the knowledge that you will be separated from God for all eternity.

I know a lot of atheists. None of them are mad. At all. They dont "hate God". They just don't believe in it. They don't need a threat of eternal damnation to motivate them to be good people. They are good people for the sake of being good to others. God will judge them with the same love that He judges you, and not by how hard they pined for Him, but how well they treated others and themselves.

God doesn't pick or choose who to love more or less. You don't need the heavily edited and sanitized King James bible to be accepted into his Kingdom.

Being a christian doesnt make you a better person. How you treat yourself and others and reserve judgement for God and God alone is the key to heaven. Learn to FORGIVE others for not being perfect, as neither you or I are perfect people, regardless of our personal beliefs or motivations to be good people. Read the actual teachings of Christ. Maybe try the Gospel of the Essenes.

Don't worry what other people believe. Clean your own house and let God deal with the rest.

Originally posted by cooperton
And not all people believe blindly. To quote Carl Jung... "I don't need to believe... I know"

youtu.be...

But Carl Jung wasn’t a Christian…he was a pantheist...

And although he was raised Christian, his writings clearly indicate that he was a comparativist of many religions…He realized there was a mystical underlining component throughout most religions. That component being an individual’s divine spiritual connection to God…That’s why he claimed to know !

“I only wish the Christians of today could see for once that what they stand for is not Christianity at all but a god-awful legalistic religion from which the founder himself tried to free them by following his voice and his vocation to the bitter end. Had he not done so there would never have been a Christianity.” ~Carl Jung, Letters Vol. 1, Pages 518-522.

Christianity really arose from the spirit of Gnosticism, but came into conflict with it later, because the Gnostics threatened to dissolve Christianity with their philosophical speculations. ~Carl Jung, ETH Lecture V. Page 162.

- JC

a reply to: majesticthirteen

You said:

I know a lot of atheists. None of them are mad. At all.

I can make a thread of the angry things said by atheist on this forum. I have already listed some but that's not the point of the thread. If people want to delude themselves and say atheist never say anything angry and mean about God and Christ, then they can stay in Plato's Cave,

You said:

They are good people for the sake of being good to others. God will judge them with the same love that He judges you, and not by how hard they pined for Him, but how well they treated others and themselves.

This is just a lie and it's dangerous.

NOBODY IS GOOD!

Why did Jesus have to die on the Cross if people can good their way into Heaven? God could have said just do 100 good acts and that's enough.

Sin corrupted our very nature and separated us from God. It's only through Christ, not by good works or being decent are we reconciled to God.

They called Jesus good and this is what He said:

Luke 18:19 “And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.”

The Bible says are good works are as filthy rags. This is why the message of the Cross is so powerful.

Paul talked about this when there were people trying to say you need to be circumsized or you need to eat only this food.

This is an important point because you're the 2nd person that came into this thread with this same lie. Works do not save us, only the blood of Christ.

The Bible says:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Here's Paul talking about this:

Romans Chapter 3

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Romans Chapter 4

2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.

22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.

23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Romans Chapter 5

1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:

7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Justified by the Blood of Christ not by good works.

What you're saying isn't just wrong, it's dangerous. Sin corrupted our very nature so we're all born in sin and iniquity and saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 - For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

a reply to: neoholographic

I'm an atheist am not angry at anyone. Just because you believe in a 'God' and I don't doesn't make one of us better than the other, we just have different ways of dealing with certain aspects of life. I've never understood why some atheists are so hard core, demanding Christian symbols be taken down or removed etc. It just seems like a silly thing to get hung up on. Believe what you want and live your life.

originally posted by: noonebutme

Have a link to that statement? I am trying to find it but cannot.

aiimpacts.org...

Random chance cannot assemble 850,000 kilometers of neurons into a working mode that creates consciousness. It requires a Designer.

You're not even supposed to be on social media...it's "worldly" and therefore against your bible. Of course "most" Christians
cherry pick what they'll follow and what they won't follow. I'm not christian, but my behavior is better than the majority of
them. Most Christians lie, cheat, talk about how hot some dumb star is, makes remarks about the looks or sexual attractiveness
of others that aren't there significant other. Have sex out of wedlock, masturbate, watch porn, or sexually explicit programing.
Go out get drunk and then sit up in church on Sunday...IF they go to church at all.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: noonebutme


If I get angry, it’s with people like you who believe in something that is supposed to be so important and eternal….blindly without logic, without evidence.

Bro there is about 500,000 miles.. MILES... of neural circuitry compacted into our brain to allow our consciousness to have a material interface. This requires the work of a Master Electrician. There is proof all over you just have to recognize it.

And not all people believe blindly. To quote Carl Jung... "I don't need to believe... I know"

youtu.be...

I have multiple sclerosis. My immune system attacks the nerve pathways in my brain and spine because it thinks they're the enemy. This causes scar tissue ("lesions") on the casing around the nerves, which has all manner of wonderful side effects which negatively impact my life.

As engineering goes, I wouldn't rate your god beyond apprentice level, let alone any sort of master at any skill.

Also, pooping. Really? Your god can do and create literally anything, and the best design he could come up with for excretion of waste was pooping, with all the hassle and drama that goes with it? Rather than say, a completely odourless gas and nothing more?

Yeah, masterful creator alright.

originally posted by: fencesitter85

I have multiple sclerosis. My immune system attacks the nerve pathways in my brain and spine because it thinks they're the enemy. This causes scar tissue ("lesions") on the casing around the nerves, which has all manner of wonderful side effects which negatively impact my life.

As engineering goes, I wouldn't rate your god beyond apprentice level, let alone any sort of master at any skill.

Also, pooping. Really? Your god can do and create literally anything, and the best design he could come up with for excretion of waste was pooping, with all the hassle and drama that goes with it? Rather than say, a completely odourless gas and nothing more?

Yeah, masterful creator alright.

No one on earth can replicate the engineering of the brain.

In terms of altered biological states, The abundance of toxins and other unnatural things in our world makes me wonder how any biological organism can persist. We're all eating toxic food, breathing toxic air, sitting on couches or chairs most of the day, seldomly ever conscious of our breathing, etc. We have defied the natural order.

Not mad at God since I don't believe he exists.

But if he does exist, I blame him for my atheism.

Still not mad though. Quite satisfied, really.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: fencesitter85

I have multiple sclerosis. My immune system attacks the nerve pathways in my brain and spine because it thinks they're the enemy. This causes scar tissue ("lesions") on the casing around the nerves, which has all manner of wonderful side effects which negatively impact my life.

As engineering goes, I wouldn't rate your god beyond apprentice level, let alone any sort of master at any skill.

Also, pooping. Really? Your god can do and create literally anything, and the best design he could come up with for excretion of waste was pooping, with all the hassle and drama that goes with it? Rather than say, a completely odourless gas and nothing more?

Yeah, masterful creator alright.

No one on earth can replicate the engineering of the brain.

In terms of altered biological states, The abundance of toxins and other unnatural things in our world makes me wonder how any biological organism can persist. We're all eating toxic food, breathing toxic air, sitting on couches or chairs most of the day, seldomly ever conscious of our breathing, etc. We have defied the natural order.

Sorry but your reply is smoke and mirrors and completely fails to address the point.

Your god cannot be omniscient, all powerful, and good at the same time. He is either deeply flawed, or has evil tendencies, or doesn't exist at all.

You can't use the teleological argument by noting things like the complexity of the central nervous system, while simultaneously disregarding the staggering volume of horrific genetic diseases and biological failures that exist within human biology. And let's not even get into the mental side of things.

No matter how you try to justify it, your god is either a very low level of ability when it comes to creation, or does not care about the physical and emotional well-being of his creations.

I'll take my chances on one of the other 2000 gods from around the world. Or better still, I'll think for myself.

The whole reason I do not believe or support the Death Penalty is we have no clue what actually happens when we die . As far as we know we could be setting loose a demon or sending them to a better place or reincarnating them to do their worst again and again . WE HAVE NO SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION ON WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR LIFE FORCE AFTER DEATH - Because of that killing is just plain stupid instead of exile to a island we could be sending them on a vacation .

It's arrogant to say we know or my God is better then your God why ? Because that the teaching we grew up with .

I was taught how to understand the world - You lift yourself up and look at it as a whole then you understand the circles of influences everyone is in .