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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: PaPaTaco
Yeah, we are all gods children until a "good" reason is given for taking out a group.
It was just an off the top of the head example. No need to get too deep into it.
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: PaPaTaco
Mostly I was telling you I was not going with you.
Really, you don't understand why atheists use scripture? Maybe you need to go deep on that?
originally posted by: PaPaTaco
So... It'k OK for those who hate what they say doesn't exist to use scripture, but when scripture is used in a truthful and loving way....well then it's just not read or they slander the message/messanger....
I'm really beginning to wonder what it was that made you hate Him
You may say you are continuing to walk away from the God of the Bible and don't believe.... but deep down in your spirit friend... you know He is The Way, The Truth and The Life...
I'm sure you don't mean it but it is there. It doesn't bother me but it influences the dynamic of the conversation.
I wouldn't call it being a jerk, mostly because I know the intention is good, but it often is a situation where one person feels they know something that the other person has never seen or been exposed to and if they would just take a gander with a half open mind they will have an epiphany. A lot of people know what you know and still don't feel the way you do.
As for churches, as a child my family was catholic (easter/christmas christians at this point) and then my sister and I started going to a baptist church that bused inner city kids. We attended a lutheran church for a while until my parents settled on a non-denominational evangelical church.
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: PaPaTaco
Linguistically, the opposite of love is hate.
originally posted by: PaPaTaco
So linguistically speaking... when we don't act out that love in our actions...well isn't that the opposite of Love....
Man can't serve two masters.... He will love one and hate the other.... type of thing....
originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: PaPaTaco
So linguistically speaking... when we don't act out that love in our actions...well isn't that the opposite of Love....
Man can't serve two masters.... He will love one and hate the other.... type of thing....
No, that is a false dichotomy.
You can choose to not follow someone without hating them.
And in the case of atheists it is just a matter of not believing they exist. I don't love or hate any god man has written about and that includes the one depicted in the bible, because neither feeling exists, within me, towards any of them. There is just nothing there.
I understand yours, you buy into "if you are not with me you are against me". The truth is one can be neither with nor against someone. If that someone does not see it that way, that is on them.
I am what some would call a spiritual atheist. In a nutshell: there is more to reality than the material but that doesn't include a "god". God is in quotes because, obviously, that means different beings to different people.
originally posted by: PaPaTaco
Now you're putting words and feelings in my mouth.... Remember... the ones who say I was putting on you... It goes both ways.... We obviously believe differently... so it's not Me vs You, You vs Me....
OK...so there is more than just he material.... What do you believe that more (or spirit) is??? Define it.
No, they match what you have been saying and it follows the good word
Matthew 12:30
Whoever is not with me (YHVH/Jesus/H.S.] is against me, and whoever does not gather (One could say I am Gathering together with Him... a Fisher of Men) with me scatters.
Seemed to me that was what you were going for.
I honestly can't.
originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: peck420
Mix random chance with billions of chances and anything is possible
If that's true then the existence of an omnipotent God is included in those infinite possibilites
Which then makes you realize it was God the whole time. But he didn't have to use some trash random mutation algorithm to make it lol
Imagination aside, there is no scientific evidence that life can arise from non-life through random chance, or any evidence that a population of organisms can change into a distinctly new organism. It's faith, not science. Faith in
literal meaninglessness nonetheless.