FDA fully approves the "Vax"

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Oddly, the lady currently running the FDA had a very big hand in the opioid crisis....even approving OxyContin for 11 year olds....

Scott Gottlieb, who ran the FDA before her, now sits on the board of Pfizer.

a reply to: Middleoftheroad

I know it is anecdotal but I agree. Since covid began I knew no-one directly that had ever had it, Since the "Vaxx" I know 7 people with covid all fully vaxxed.

a reply to: norhoc

I've read a lot about how mutations can happen whether you're vaccinated or not. And it sounded pretty logical to me. I guess what I'm saying is both "sides" (though I hate to call it that) can argue this point ignoring the other.

originally posted by: GravitySucks
a reply to: network dude

It sure might work, but at a cost.

For most pandemics to well and truly end, to reach herd immunity faster, with less cost, we need a combination of both naturally acquired immunity and vaccines, seeing as they are available. I don't have a problem with taking both paths. Everyone makes a choice here. One day we'll know the consequences, and I sincerely doubt they're be as extreme or as cut and dry as people appear to be making them.

sadly, you nor I are in charge of this. #tards like Biden and Fauci are ignoring natural Immunity and their tiny brains can only focus on the shot. So we will continue to pile on the restrictions for the unvaxxed, and engineer another class of people who can be looked at as subhuman. And there will be idiots who just aren't smart enough to understand it's a lie, and they will be on board for making life hell for the unvaxxed. Perhaps you have seen these folks around. then tend to vote in a certain way.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: GravitySucks

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: GravitySucks

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: norhoc

That's nice.


Still not getting a vaccine for a #ing cold bug.

Me either and I just learned my sister and husband have COVID both are being treated with Ivermectin and are now doing fine.

Why sign up for boosters when you can get an alternate treatment...

Your sister and brother-in-law were fortunate to get it, recover, and can now steer clear of vaccines, boosters, or whatever else the voodoo doctors come up with.

Everyone in America should contract and recover. It's the preferred route.

You keep saying that the antibodies you get last forever. This has simply not been determined yet. Talk about voodoo.

There are very few documented cases of reinfection of those who previously had COVID if any. While we are seeing those that have been vaccinated are indeed getting COVID.

Not exactly accurate in my experience. The most the scientists are willing to say at this point is that antibodies offer some protection, and from what I've read, antibodies acquired naturally provide about the same protection and one of the vaccines and a slightly lesser amount of protection (low 80s percentage) than the two mRNA vaccines claim to.

Again, we're too soon into this to draw any concrete evidence.

I call BS. Based on my experience everyone I know that has been vaccinated repeatedly catches Covid. My aunt never got Covid until she got "vaccinated". Now she repeatedly gets Covid. Caught it for the 3rd time just last week.

U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy said over the weekend that the Vaccines are working as expected. With full FDA Approval, vaccines and boosters should be mandated by private and public institutions.

Says the man who let 10 family members die of Covid-19: www.foxnews.com...

a reply to: GravitySucks

a reply to: network dude

I believe we have seen regimes in the past that looked at certain classes of human as dirty or sub human and it never ended well

Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but what of the Moderna and J&J 'vaccines'?

Will they be approved too, or only the Pfizer vaccine?

If only Pfizer, then standby for injunction city!

And the thing about the J&J shot is, it's different from the others.

a reply to: angelchemuel

Why aren't they talking about clots and rashes?

a reply to: chris_stibrany
Stop it...you're 'fear mongering'! You'll terrify some members here.

I dunno..... but I have a couple of clients who have clotting issues since having the thing.

Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: chris_stibrany
a reply to: angelchemuel

Why aren't they talking about clots and rashes?

Or, how about straight-up deaths?

a reply to: projectvxn
Same here, very promising and attractive. Known technology since 1989.

I will wait for that one too. But hey, don't tell it anyone or that's just an excuse to not get the mRNA ones, you know, because you know you can't get it where you live.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

My observations of thought processes involved:

Tells someone the mortality rate of covid: "But one death is too many! Especially when there is a vaccine. Just take it!"

Tells someone the mortality rate of vax: "But the chances of that happening to you is SO RARE! Just take it!"

a reply to: angelchemuel

...and my wife left just this morning to attend her father's funeral.

Got the 2nd jab and then...failed to stay alive.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: GravitySucks
a reply to: network dude

It sure might work, but at a cost.

For most pandemics to well and truly end, to reach herd immunity faster, with less cost, we need a combination of both naturally acquired immunity and vaccines, seeing as they are available. I don't have a problem with taking both paths. Everyone makes a choice here. One day we'll know the consequences, and I sincerely doubt they're be as extreme or as cut and dry as people appear to be making them.

sadly, you nor I are in charge of this. #tards like Biden and Fauci are ignoring natural Immunity and their tiny brains can only focus on the shot. So we will continue to pile on the restrictions for the unvaxxed, and engineer another class of people who can be looked at as subhuman. And there will be idiots who just aren't smart enough to understand it's a lie, and they will be on board for making life hell for the unvaxxed. Perhaps you have seen these folks around. then tend to vote in a certain way.

I don't know what the answers are, but they sure aren't what's going on here.

I cringe at treating the unvaccinated as unclean or subhuman. And I cringe at the vaccinated who believe they're saintly.

The balancing act between rights and deaths and rushed vaccines and keeping the economy moving is a difficult one.

In the end, it seems the people will be the ones to face all consequences and the businesses will decide for society. As usual.

All we can do is make our choice and take the consequences, be that unemployment or the risks of death from either the virus or the vaccine or something in between.

Frankly, it all sucks.

Does anyone think that there will be legal challenges to this?

a reply to: Tempter

Of course there will be challenges.

We should not be mandating a damned thing.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

You would think they would list death as a possible side effect in the insert.

a reply to: GravitySucks

I agree with most of what you just said ,but the fact you accept that people can be fired for a choice they make for their own healthcare and body is pretty sad. I go back to the abortion rallying cry "my body, my choice" what happened to that?
I imagine there would be lawsuits galore if an HIV positive person was told that unless they take a certain medication for HIV they will be fired.

Right on schedule. They wanted it approved before September to rush through the forced military requirements.
I work at a Texas college that is gnashing its teeth to make it mandatory. Guess I will be claiming religious exemption soon.