FDA fully approves the "Vax"

a reply to: norhoc

Which super bugs in particular?

originally posted by: GravitySucks

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: norhoc

That's nice.


Still not getting a vaccine for a #ing cold bug.

Me either and I just learned my sister and husband have COVID both are being treated with Ivermectin and are now doing fine.

Why sign up for boosters when you can get an alternate treatment...

Your sister and brother-in-law were fortunate to get it, recover, and can now steer clear of vaccines, boosters, or whatever else the voodoo doctors come up with.

Everyone in America should contract and recover. It's the preferred route.

You keep saying that the antibodies you get last forever. This has simply not been determined yet. Talk about voodoo.

because of "time" we don't have that information yet, but we do have other illnesses that produced natural antibodies, and we found that some similar to this disease lasted 90 years. So no, we don't know yet, but we suspect there is a good chance the natural route will work again. I'll keep looking until they make it illegal to speak of it.

originally posted by: GravitySucks
a reply to: rickymouse

I stopped the study I was part of in early 2020 at 9 months with a significantly reduced amount of antibodies. Others in the study had both higher and lower amounts at that point, but I don't have the data as to when they were infected, only have my own.

Glad to hear some are showing more longevity. However, that being said, there is also no proof that antibodies prevent reinfection or provide lasting immunity, particularly against variants.

When you catch something, the body stores records of the infection in certain cells throughout the body and the circulating cells containing those antibodies go down till needed again, if there is a record in the library, the immune system can quickly bring up immunity unless you are immune compromised because of either age, genetic deficiencies, or medications that block autoimmunity.

Now, keeping the immune system fully charged when there is not much of a threat can lead to increased risk of autoimmune issues or can lead to less available response to pathogens not promoted by vaccines. It is normal and preferred for immunity to go back down somewhat when there is not a threat present...why fight something if it is not present.

Training a bunch of soldiers and building a military to fight wars when there are no wars can drive a country broke and cause all sorts of problems.

So get the jab, then you will have to get the Chinese antidote for the jab (that they are developing) and of course if you don’t, you risk ADE and death. China wins the long game

a reply to: network dude

It sure might work, but at a cost.

For most pandemics to well and truly end, to reach herd immunity faster, with less cost, we need a combination of both naturally acquired immunity and vaccines, seeing as they are available. I don't have a problem with taking both paths. Everyone makes a choice here. One day we'll know the consequences, and I sincerely doubt they're be as extreme or as cut and dry as people appear to be making them.

Still not getting the vax no matter if its FDA remember the few drugs that were also approved by FDA like the opioid crisis?

Follow the money.

a reply to: rickymouse

Good points. But I sure as hell don't want to get it again to prove that theory out. It was hell. Wish this was true of the common cold coronaviruses too.

a reply to: norhoc

If it's not too late, can you expand the title to say WHAT vaccine was approved, for WHAT disease?

Makes it easier to find THIS thread in the future, and differentiate the Pfizer approval from the upcoming Moderna, Johnson-Johnson, etc, approvals.

a reply to: GravitySucks

Again, we're too soon into this to draw any concrete evidence.

About the only sensible thing you have contributed so far.
So explain to me how come the FDA has given its full licensed approval to a 'not vaccine', given, even according to your own words "we are too soon into his to draw any concrete evidence".

When certain members are celebrating the approval not because it's approved, but to rub it under the nose of others who are not willing to participate in this experiment, that's ugly.

Really ugly and telling about the moral corruption

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*puke*

originally posted by: GravitySucks
a reply to: network dude

It sure might work, but at a cost.

For most pandemics to well and truly end, to reach herd immunity faster, with less cost, we need a combination of both naturally acquired immunity and vaccines, seeing as they are available. I don't have a problem with taking both paths. Everyone makes a choice here. One day we'll know the consequences, and I sincerely doubt they're be as extreme or as cut and dry as people appear to be making them.

The only consequences anyone with natural immunity will have are those from covid itself. The consequences anyone that has a vaccination will have get to combine both having covid AND the vaccine, which has not been around long enough to know.

I had covid, I have antibodies. I have no reason to get a vaccine at all, nor would I want to take a chance in an unknown.

a reply to: GravitySucks

I agree with you on one point , it should not be mandatory. Other than that there is not a vaccine for Covid 19. There is a weakened attempt at a vaccine that is causing more severe mutations of the virus they are trying to get rid of.

Remember everyone: the following drugs were approved, and then yanked:

- Zantac
- Thalidomide
- Vioxx
- Darvocet
- Phenterimine
- Meridia (ya'll remember that one...gives you greasy poop and calls it "weigh loss")

These are just the common ones that large amounts of folks were taking, and this is only fairly recent (save Thalidomide).

Im getting my 3rd dose this week...im not anti-vax. im pro truth.

originally posted by: HawkEyi
Still not getting the vax no matter if its FDA remember the few drugs that were also approved by FDA like the opioid crisis?

Oddly, the lady currently running the FDA had a very big hand in the opioid crisis....even approving OxyContin for 11 year olds....

Forced approval under Government pressure. Now the real fun begins - Vaccine mandates all around now that it's "Approved" You will lose your job and not be able to sue .. It's over or it's just begun.

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: GravitySucks

Again, we're too soon into this to draw any concrete evidence.

About the only sensible thing you have contributed so far.
So explain to me how come the FDA has given its full licensed approval to a 'not vaccine', given, even according to your own words "we are too soon into his to draw any concrete evidence".

I don't need your validation, thanks.

Explanation Simple: To attempt to prevent even more deaths. A cost-benefit analysis, if you will.

originally posted by: GravitySucks

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: GravitySucks

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: norhoc

That's nice.


Still not getting a vaccine for a #ing cold bug.

Me either and I just learned my sister and husband have COVID both are being treated with Ivermectin and are now doing fine.

Why sign up for boosters when you can get an alternate treatment...

Your sister and brother-in-law were fortunate to get it, recover, and can now steer clear of vaccines, boosters, or whatever else the voodoo doctors come up with.

Everyone in America should contract and recover. It's the preferred route.

You keep saying that the antibodies you get last forever. This has simply not been determined yet. Talk about voodoo.

There are very few documented cases of reinfection of those who previously had COVID if any. While we are seeing those that have been vaccinated are indeed getting COVID.

Not exactly accurate in my experience. The most the scientists are willing to say at this point is that antibodies offer some protection, and from what I've read, antibodies acquired naturally provide about the same protection and one of the vaccines and a slightly lesser amount of protection (low 80s percentage) than the two mRNA vaccines claim to.

Again, we're too soon into this to draw any concrete evidence.

I call BS. Based on my experience everyone I know that has been vaccinated repeatedly catches Covid. My aunt never got Covid until she got "vaccinated". Now she repeatedly gets Covid. Caught it for the 3rd time just last week.

The manufacturers of the Covid-19 vaccines expect vaccinated individuals will need booster shots in the years to come–and the markets agree.

Source

That pretty much says it all right there!

They have only approved Pfizer.

I will wait on a more traditional vaccine like the Novavax vaccine that is based on the Hep B vaccine technology.

I do not trust the mRNA vaccines. Too many side effects, too many deaths.

The J & J vaccine is only 66% effective and blood clots are an issue.