Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

a reply to: dragonridr

Okay, so even in the mindframe that this is legimate, you laugh like they're stupid for not designing or refitting a program to fix what could have been prevented by basic election procedures, also called laws?

originally posted by: alphabetaone
a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

Ok so, here's why that assessment is completely bogus....[snip]...he seems to be well focused on Verizon.....its almost as if....... he has no idea what the F he's talking about.....for a Master's degree

Hmmmm.... you should probably explain all that to Dominion and Antrim, Michigan:

In his report that was filed in Michigan court, DePerno revealed that the ES&S DS200 voting machines contain a Telit LE910-SV1 Modem Chip installed on its motherboard.

SEE Exhibit 6 in Antrim County Lawsuit

According to Patrick Colbeck at Let’s Fix Stuff the chip utilized a commercial Verizon SIM card with an Access Point Name (APN) configuration specific to the ES&S DS200 provisioning.

EXPLOSIVE: Investigators for Attorney DePerno Reportedly Discover Modem Chips Embedded in Michigan Voting System Computer Motherboards

I'm going to guess this is why Cotton was so intent on the Verizon SIM card. And for what it's worth, I suspect DePerno (and his findings) isn't a stranger to the auditors.

In any event, it doesn't matter. If Maricopa County did not make this argument to the court when fighting the subpoenas, perhaps they'll be making it soon. But right now, those subpoenas have been declared legally binding by the courts, including the routers and the passwords, and they need to comply. The Maricopa County Supervisors are not above the law and not a law unto themselves.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Boadicea

If the audit says that there was no fraud will it actually change people's minds, or are they so made up that they will only accept answers that confirm what they already think?

I honestly don't expect this audit to do more than to further entrench people's existing beliefs.

I honestly want to put this behind me and get on with my life. But I can’t if my government was hijacked. I have at least one child out there

a reply to: alphabetaone

Oh, so they just need to ask verizon for some records and they'll hand them over?...instead of getting the passwords for the equipment as they were supposed to be provided by the subpoena. I'm not sure you are understanding the process here.

a reply to: Boadicea

I'm going to guess this is why Cotton was so intent on the Verizon SIM card.

A SIM card is not a WIFI card.

Cotton is not talking about a SIM card. He seems to be speculating that there may be a WIFI card within the tabulators and (for some reason) a password is required to determine this. For some reason he speculates that it is a Verizon card.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: alphabetaone

Yeah but, they did manage to figure out that the database folder had not been deleted.

That is not what was stated. I am well aware that this is how Big Media is reporting it, using words like "backtracked" and "walked back" and so on and so forth, and it's an outright lie. The database was not "lost" and then "found." The database was deleted and recovered. To be specific:

In the course of performing that MFT discovery, I discovered an MFT that clearly indicated that the database directory was deleted from that server.

(I believe MFT refers to "Master File Table"]

You can watch for yourself if you like:

The purpose (and sources) of this sort of "update" is becoming quite clear.

If you are referring to the trash talk of the Maricopa Audit Twitter page, I would agree that they were way out of line, and I didn't appreciate it either. Bennett was called to task for it, and he stated he had let some volunteers handle the account, but he took back control of it after that.

a reply to: Halfswede

Maricopa county does not have the passwords. You cannot provide what you do not possess.

a reply to: Phage

A SIM card is not a WIFI card.

Cotton is not talking about a SIM card. He seems to be speculating that there may be a WIFI card within the tabulators and (for some reason) a password is required to determine this. For some reason he speculates that it is a Verizon card.

Maybe he is. Maybe he isn't. I think he gave the answer he wanted to give, and I don't necessarily think it was the whole truth. Perhaps in the interest of brevity, perhaps something more covert.

To me, it's a distinction without a difference -- I don't care how they connect to the internet, I just care if they do connect to the internet, and especially if they connected to the internet when they should not have.

And it doesn't matter. The BoS is unlawfully refusing to comply with court affirmed subpoenas. The BoS is not above the law and they are not a law unto themselves.

a reply to: Boadicea

and it's an outright lie.

A lie from whom? An expert who got caught not knowing what he was doing?

Odd how that "recovery" occurred soon after the letter from the County explained the process of how to properly use RStudio with a RAID system.

a reply to: Boadicea

The BoS is unlawfully refusing to comply with court affirmed subpoenas

How so? You cannot provide what you do not possess.

a reply to: Phage

A lie from whom? An expert who got caught not knowing what he was doing?

An outright lie from every single reporter misquoting and misrepresenting what Cotton said. He very clearly stated that those files were deleted, but were found during an MFT recovery, and restored. I provided the quote verbatim, and I provided the video.

Odd how that "recovery" occurred soon after the letter from the County explained the process of how to properly use RStudio with a RAID system.

Odd that you would conflate when you learned with when it actually happened. Cotton did not say when he found and recovered those files. Seems rather obvious that he found and recovered them well before the screenshot was posted, long before the County issued their letter, and he was already planning to explain this at the Senate hearing the next day. How else could they post a screenshot if they hadn't already found them???

a reply to: Phage

How so? You cannot provide what you do not possess.

As far as the passwords, fair enough... if that's true. There is some reporting that Dominion claims they gave the passwords to the County for their audits.... Other reports say that Dominion gave them to the auditors.... But as I understand it, Dominion has access to those machines anytime, and they could have changed the passwords after providing them for the first audits. I don't know.

However, the County does have possession of the routers. The auditors have even offered to travel to their facilities, and make their copy of the routers in the presence of County officials to ensure nothing is copied that shouldn't be. I do not know if they have directly responded to that particular request, but their blanket refusal to deal with the Senate or the auditors at all in any capacity pretty much answers that!

a reply to: Boadicea

He very clearly stated that those files were deleted, but were found during an MFT recovery, and restored.

I know what he stated. I also know what the claim in the letter to the County was, no mention of the data having been recovered. I also know enough to understand the response of the County to the claim.

The screenshot does not identify what type of search your “auditors” ran, and you conveniently failed to provide the full report the search generated. However, the table at the bottom of the screenshot appears to indicate that certain data is missing because it “extends beyond disk bounds” of the copied hard drive searched. Perhaps these files have the red X-mark because your “auditors” copied them to a segment of the hard drive that, in lay terms, is unreadable by the R-Studio software. Or because your “auditors” set the R-Studio search parameters incorrectly, such that it searched for these files in an area of the hard drive where they do not reside. There could be other explanations as well, including the possibility that your “auditors” inadvertently, or purposefully, moved—or even deleted—certain data.

www.maricopa.gov...

The auditors have even offered to travel to their facilities, and make their copy of the routers in the presence of County officials to ensure nothing is copied that shouldn't be.

How does one copy a router but omit things that shouldn't be copied? That isn't the way it works. A router image is complete. You don't select certain settings to copy.

You have a lot of faith in these auditors for some reason. I'm not sure why. Unless these "updates" are just feeding your foregone conclusions.

Dump your confirmation biases.

“I supported an audit. I didn’t support a mockery, which is what this has become,” said Supervisor Steve Chucri, District 2. “We have too much to do on behalf of the County to keep responding to every rumor out there. I think this letter sets us on a path forward to putting this audit behind us.”

www.maricopa.gov...

a reply to: Phage





" Maricopa county does not have the passwords. "


No , and the Reason Why is that there are Three Main Voting Software Companies used in U.S. elections . Election Systems & Software (ES&S) , Hart InterCivic , and Dominion Voting Systems . ALL Control Election Results in the U.S. Using their Own Distinct Software . All would have to be Subpoenaed by Federal Law Enforcement in Order to Retrieve their Passwords used to Access their 2020 Election Data . I would Surmise there is some Criminal Evidence to be Found in All of their Legalized Manipulation of Election Results going Back as Far as the 1990's .

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Maricopa duplicate ballots don’t match

a reply to: Phage

Oh, i agree

a reply to: Boadicea

Well a SIM card is not tantamount to the radio that is the actual hardware which communicates with cellular towers.

SIM cards just store information about you and your hardware.


As far as

Hmmmm.... you should probably explain all that to Dominion and Antrim, Michigan

If they pay me, i will do precisely that. This is actually rudimentary networking we're talking about here, nothing truly indepth

a reply to: Phage

I know what he stated. I also know what the claim in the letter to County was, no mention of the data having been recovered.

And you also know that just because he didn't mention it doesn't mean it isn't true. I'm betting there's plenty that he's not telling us. But it seems to me that if the auditor was able to figure out how to find them, he was able to figure out how to restore them. So unless and until I know otherwise, based on what I already know, that's what I suspect.

I also know enough to understand the response of the County to the claim.

The County's response was full of speculation and qualifiers, just like your response necessarily is.

More to the point, though, both the County and the Senate are making the statements they want to make. If you've been following, then you know I already suspect there is much to be read between the lines. We -- the public -- don't know the half of what's been going on behind the scenes. And I'm not happy about it. But it is what it is, so I'll keep paying attention and watching how this plays out. I won't pretend to know or make any assumptions.

How does one copy a router but omit things that shouldn't be copied? That isn't the way it works. A router image is complete, just as a computer image is. You don't select certain settings to copy.

I have no idea. Maybe I misunderstood. Maybe the auditors thought the County could/would remove or relocate anything they shouldn't have (since from everything I've read and heard that shouldn't even be on there anyway, for this reason, and for practical reasons). Maybe it's something else. Doesn't matter. The County is refusing to comply with a lawful subpoena.

You have a lot of faith in these auditors for some reason. I'm not sure why.

No, I don't have any faith in these auditors. My faith is in the Divine. I do not trust these auditors either. But I know these auditors have been lawfully hired by my Senate to (rightfully, in my opinion, and plenty of others' opinion) audit the election for irregularities and illegalities. I have every reason to expect a thorough and complete report, detailing what they did and how they did it, what they found and did not find, with proof of wrongdoing or proof of no wrongdoing. I can and will judge it as best I can at that time. Not before.

The County, on the other hand, has fought this legal and lawful audit by hook and by crook, made every effort to refuse and deny the people transparency and truth, in the most arrogant and self-serving way, and in so doing gave me and every citizen who wants this audit a big fat STFU in the process.

Unless these "updates" are just feeding your foregone conclusions.

I have no foregone conclusions. I just want conclusions, and the BoS needs to do their job lawfully, respectfully, and NOW so I can have those conclusions.

originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
youtu.be...
Maricopa duplicate ballots don’t match

So much wrong there.

If the County has nothing to hide, they need to stop hiding, and work these issues out. If there are reasonable explanations, make them. If they need to go over and walk the auditors through it, do it. If they need to draw freaking pictures, then draw freaking pictures!

But do your damn jobs!

a reply to: Halfswede

Nope. Don't need to (even though it might be easier).

Any Forensic specialist - especially any who have spent a demonstrable amount of time within military intelligence - would automatically defer to a stingray and have one on hand so as not to stranglehold themselves during the forensic process.