Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
a reply to: Boadicea

If I was aware that I was being labeled incompetent by the MSM, I wouldn’t allow any leaks. It’s only going to hurt their credibility in the eyes of the sheep.

I wouldn't allow any leaks either, and not just because of the incompetent MSM. For integrity's sake. Any leaks could and would be incomplete, and therefore easily misunderstood, misconstrued and misrepresented.

Serious question -- there have been multiple recounts that show no fraud and no ballot switching. Every single election worker at all levels says there's no fraud and no ballot switching. If this recount shows no fraud, are you going to pronounce it false and demand another recount?

I'm curious.

(also... it appears to me that if they're hunting for "bamboo fibers", then they haven't found any printed/counted fraud and now they're trying some other way to account for the fact that the other two counts were correct. And then there's the 'fed it to chickens that got incinerated' concept that has everyone laughing.)

Has anyone figured out how they audit signature verifications yet ? 😃

a reply to: Byrd

Serious question -- there have been multiple recounts that show no fraud and no ballot switching.

Quick and dirty answer: Garbage in and garbage out.

Every single election worker at all levels says there's no fraud and no ballot switching.

There is literally hours and hours worth of video of election workers, and numerous depositions, of/by election workers stating otherwise, including but not limited to perceived fraud and ballot switching.

If this recount shows no fraud, are you going to pronounce it false and demand another recount?

I'm curious.

If I give an answer, are you going to respect it and accept it? Or try to tell me what you think I really?

If you'd been following the thread, you would know exactly what my position is, which has been constant and consistent throughout. There is not just evidence but actual proof of whether the election was fair and honest or it was not fair and honest. I want the truth. Whatever that is. An full, thorough and comprehensive audit is the only way to determine that. If and when the final report is produced, it will either prove it one way or the other in terms that any one and everyone can see for themselves, or they won't.

Unlike so many others, I am not pronouncing judgment on that which I cannot and do not know. And I'm sure as hell not fighting tooth and nail to make sure we cannot know.

Further, I have made very clear where and why I already know wrongdoing has occurred, and continues to occur, and neither Dems nor Pubs are exempt from my wrath and contempt. I didn't vote for Biden or Trump, and I'm not a butthurt Trumpster. I'm a pissed off voter of Maricopa County and Arizona.

(also... it appears to me that if they're hunting for "bamboo fibers", then they haven't found any printed/counted fraud...

Really? You think they just pulled that out of thin air because they couldn't find anything else? It's not possible that such an accusation had been made and that they were simply taking the time and making the effort to rule it out? (or in) Ken Bennett, for one, has outright stated that he does not believe there are any ballots from China, but they are ruling it out to put it to rest. Isn't that to their credit that they are willing to disprove rumors like that? Should they just ignore it and then have the true believers use that as a reason to discredit the audit? Especially if the audit proves no wrongdoing? Isn't that exactly what a fair and honest and thorough audit should do?

And then there's the 'fed it to chickens that got incinerated' concept that has everyone laughing.)

Funny thing about that... I never even heard that until the anti-auditors started saying it just this week. I remember the fire. That was pretty darn sad. Hickman's Eggs are a familiar and popular brand here so it was big local news. I also remember the earlier reports that shredded ballots had been found. But she still has 'em and went to the Supreme Court just recently about those shredded ballots. I seriously have no idea where that rumor about chickens eating them came from. But I've only heard it from those who are anti-audit.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Has anyone figured out how they audit signature verifications yet ? 😃

With or without the original?

I can't see any way to do it without the original ballot...

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: xuenchen
Has anyone figured out how they audit signature verifications yet ? 😃

With or without the original?

I can't see any way to do it without the original ballot...

There isn't a way to do that to many variables. For one people's signatures are different I have 2 myself. Next everyone's signature changes over time. The only thing you can do is verify that it has one this is why no state tries to use signatures to verify voting eligibility.

As far as the audit it's pointless it changes nothing no matter the outcome. All that will happen is one group will think it was lies the other facts, Doesn't matter what they find people won't believe them. If they find nothing people won't believe them and simply claim they missed stuff.

a reply to: dragonridr

As far as the audit it's pointless it changes nothing no matter the outcome. All that will happen is one group will think it was lies the other facts, Doesn't matter what they find people won't believe them. If they find nothing people won't believe them and simply claim they missed stuff.

I'm so freaking tired of people being lumped together in a big box and labeled in the worst ways.

Yes, of course some people will think and believe whatever they want to believe. People already think and believe whatever they want to believe. Some people will ALWAYS think and believe whatever they want to believe. Yes, even when facts and reality tell them different. It is what it is. And they all have their own reasons for doing so.

But not ALL PEOPLE. Not yesterday. Not today. Not tomorrow.

You speak only for yourself. Whatever you want to think and believe about others you are obviously going to. Good to know. But you don't speak for me, and plenty of others, but since you think and believe you do, I'll just leave you to it. You don't need me or anyone else to do so.

What is this all about? . . .


Dominion Responds After Pennsylvania Election Officials Report "Coding Error" With Voting Machines🤖

Election officials in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, reported issues with voting equipment at polling places on Tuesday, prompting a response from Dominion Voting Systems saying that there was a ballot screen error regarding the viewing screen’s header.

Dominion Voting Systems told The Epoch Times that “Luzerne County’s election director has confirmed that there is a ballot screen error that is confined to the header on the viewing screen of the machine, and that all ballots are printing correctly with the Republican header and the Republican primary election races.”


The firm then noted that Luzerne County officials have assured the public that “all ballots will be correctly counted,” adding: “We regret any confusion this has caused.”

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: dragonridr

As far as the audit it's pointless it changes nothing no matter the outcome. All that will happen is one group will think it was lies the other facts, Doesn't matter what they find people won't believe them. If they find nothing people won't believe them and simply claim they missed stuff.

I'm so freaking tired of people being lumped together in a big box and labeled in the worst ways.

Yes, of course some people will think and believe whatever they want to believe. People already think and believe whatever they want to believe. Some people will ALWAYS think and believe whatever they want to believe. Yes, even when facts and reality tell them different. It is what it is. And they all have their own reasons for doing so.

But not ALL PEOPLE. Not yesterday. Not today. Not tomorrow.

You speak only for yourself. Whatever you want to think and believe about others you are obviously going to. Good to know. But you don't speak for me, and plenty of others, but since you think and believe you do, I'll just leave you to it. You don't need me or anyone else to do so.

It's not what I want to believe it's a reality the United States has clearly become an us or them country.

Ive seen the same things spun differently just depending on who is telling the story. This audit is a great example it accomplishes nothing however you have one group saying it will prove fraud occurred in the election another claiming it has already been done 3 times.

No matter what outcome it won't change a single person's mind. If the audit finds nothing excuses will be made as to the reason why. If they find something the other side will claim the audit was biased since the others found nothing. No matter what it changes nothing for anyone.

a reply to: dragonridr

Not if a whole lot of evidence comes together and supports itself.

Not if fraud can be proven undeniably.

If this election turns out to have been undeniably stolen, good people will not let this country fall into the hands of tyrants.

a reply to: dragonridr

Okay. You've got it all figured out. You've got everyone's heart and minds figured out. This is nothing, going nowhere, just a waste of time. You've made yourself very clear.

I've made myself very clear throughout.

And now I'm done beating this dead horse before PETA comes looking for me....

I'm so glad someone's calling this out!

Arizona Auditor: Did Not Backtrack on Election Database Deletion Allegation

“My testimony on May 19th before the AZ Senate is being taken out of context by some media outlets. To confirm: the ‘Databases’ directory on the EMS Primary Server WAS deleted containing the voting databases. I was able to recover the deleted databases through forensic data recovery processes,” Ben Cotton, founder of CyFIR, said in a statement emailed to The Epoch Times by the audit’s liaison.

AP, for instance, claimed that Cotton said that “data was not destroyed, reversing earlier allegations that election officials in the state’s most populated county eliminated evidence.”

CNN claimed that auditors “backtracked” from claims that a key database had been deleted.

The media hasn't just misrepresented the auditor's words, they've changed them entirely -- and outright lied in doing so.

Well what do you all make of this???

Secretary of State Katie Hobbs sends letter threatening to de-certify election equipment after audit

In the letter, Hobbs said her office “consulted with election technology and security experts, including at the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, regarding the appropriate next steps, and each unanimously advised that once election officials lose custody and control over voting systems and components, those devices should not be reused in further elections.”

At the end of the letter, Hobbs advises county election officials that should they chose to reuse the equipment, they will begin the de-certification process.

This story is developing. Stay with ABC15 for updates.

So Hobbs got DHS involved too. Why doesn't that surprise me? But one thing is clear and that is that one way or another, they're going to get those machines out of commission. And I don't buy the "out of custody of election officials" crap. The Senate is the ultimate custodian of everything elections, and in that regard, the County has nothing -- no power, no authority, etc -- not bestowed by the Senate to begin with.

Aren't they supposed to be re-certified before every election anyway? So why wouldn't they be able to do what they gotta do to make them certifiable and just continue using them?

a reply to: Bodicea


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This is what wiki says.. There is actually a lot of interesting information on there. I know it can be updated, but there are sources for the info.

This is under the volutary header

The Election Assistance Commission (EAC) is an independent agency of the United States government which developed the 2005 Voluntary Voting System Guidelines (VVSG).[2] These guidelines address some of the security and accessibility needs of elections. The EAC also accredits three test laboratories which manufacturers hire to review their equipment.[3] Based on reports from these laboratories the EAC certifies when voting equipment complies with the voluntary guidelines.
Twelve states require EAC certification for machines used in their states. Seventeen states require testing by an EAC-accredited lab, but not certification. Nine states and DC require testing to federal standards, by any lab. Four other states refer to federal standards but make their own decisions. The remaining eight states do not refer to federal standards.[4]
Certification takes two years, costs a million dollars, and is needed again for any equipment update, so election machines are a difficult market.[5]
A revision to the guidelines, known as the VVSG 1.1, was prepared in 2009 and approved in 2015.[2] Voting machine manufacturers can choose which guidelines they follow.[6] A new version has been written known as the VVSG 2.0 or the VVSG Next Iteration, which is being reviewed.[2]

It looks pretty ugly. Still searching around.

a reply to: Boadicea
Someone involved with the audit, or having knowledge of what's being discovered, must be leaking info.

Otherwise, this thread would be growing very slowly, due to no official information being released until the audit is complete. Like you said, that is what the forensic audit team/company promised the Arizona Senate.

www.eac.gov...

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Boadicea
Someone involved with the audit, or having knowledge of what's being discovered, must be leaking info.

Otherwise, this thread would be growing very slowly, due to no official information being released until the audit is complete. Like you said, that is what the forensic audit team/company promised the Arizona Senate.

I was pondering this...

When Ken Bennett spoke at the hearing about the adjudicated ballots (we do not know how many), he stated that original ballots did not have a requisite corresponding serial number to the adjudicated ballot. What I got out of it is that all the adjudicated ballots had serials numbers, but not the originals, so no way to match them up, much less compare them. This is damning -- of negligence, if not worse.

But Ken Bennett went on to say he was so surprised that he got the SoS' "guys" and brought them over to witness it personally. We have heard nothing from them about this. They haven't denied it or tried to correct it, or even tried to minimize it or belittle it or misrepresent it. Just nothing.

Maybe it's not leaking so much as the SoS' "guys" -- from the Brennan Center if I remember correctly -- know exactly what they are finding and they are plotting their strategy. That's leaking, by definition, I know. But I feel like there should be a better word for moles who have infiltrated!

a reply to: TheLead

Thank you for the research and the links! I'm about to call it a night. I'll check it out in the morning when I'm thinking proper again

Once again, thanks Boadicea for your post and updates.

Alot of the leftist, supposed intellectuals and Woke Folk push back against all this because CNN and MSNBC haven't said anything about it.

If an NPC hasn't recieved data uploads, than, all things considered, it must not exist, therefore they see NOTHING.

The amount of dissonance I've witnesses from several Users on ATS who "Claim" that no irregularities were present when we have HOURS of it for all to see and listen to.

Once again tho, if it isn't on any Liberal Media, the information isn't consumed and avoided.

Basically, if anyone User states that this was a perfect election, laugh at them.

a reply to: Boadicea



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Despite the urgent need to replace antiquated equipment, and the growing calls to do so over the last two years, most outdated systems have not been replaced. In 2016, jurisdictions in 44 states used voting machines that were at least a decade old. Election officials in 31 of those states said they needed to replace that equipment by 2020.[5]

Two years later, little has changed. This year, 41 states will be using systems that are at least a decade old, and officials in 33 say they must replace their machines by 2020. In most cases, elections officials do not yet have adequate funds to do so.[6]

www.brennancenter.org...

I keep messing this up, I think I need to head off as well.

What I'm seeing sor far is pretty troubling.

www.eac.gov...

www.nist.gov...

originally posted by: Boadicea
“We’re Doing Private Audits”- Mike Lindell Hired Private Auditors To Uncover Fraud

Mike Lindell announces he hired auditors across the country that have uncovered voter fraud in lesser known states.

This will win in any court in the world,” he said. “We are going to put so much pressure on the Supreme Court.”

“We’re going around these states we’re doing private audits where we have permission,” Lindell said. “It’s too late, Dominion, the word is out.”

There's a video at the link for more.

I love Mike Lindell's determination and focus. But he's forgetting how arrogant, corrupted, and callous, Chief Justice John Roberts is.

Twenty-two states and the President of the United States, joined forces to voice an election challenge against Pennsylvania, for violating state and federal election laws. Roberts deftly threw that mega case in the trash within 48 hours of receiving it, declaring "lack of standing" as the reason. He's a world-class jerk on steroids.