Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Thanks for the updates everyone!
Much Appreciated!

What update?

🚨The multiple updates you've apparently been sleeping through or intentionally ignoring🚨

Show me one.

Other than letters and meetings with no conclusions.

a reply to: xuenchen

Wow

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Thanks for the updates everyone!
Much Appreciated!

What update?

🚨The multiple updates you've apparently been sleeping through or intentionally ignoring🚨

Show me one.

Other than letters and meetings with no conclusions.

Read through the last 5 or 6 pages here and see there's 3 official updates from official sources.

Looks like many people can't even distinguish between "official" and "outside opinion" roflmao 😃😃

Let the hiding and sand ducking begin !!!!!😃😃

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind
The subject of this particular thread seems to have created two distinct sides. Has anyone noticed that one side always resorts to childish name calling? While the other side just wants to partcipate in adult discussion until the truth is revealed - whatever that may turn out to be. I wonder why the two sides are so diametrically opposed in this obvious manner? And it is obvious.

The names I noticed are "evil leftist" "ccp enabler" and "traitor" among others. Is that what you are referring to?

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Thanks for the updates everyone!
Much Appreciated!

What update?

🚨The multiple updates you've apparently been sleeping through or intentionally ignoring🚨

Show me one.

Other than letters and meetings with no conclusions.

Read through the last 5 or 6 pages here and see there's 3 official updates from official sources.

Looks like many people can't even distinguish between "official" and "outside opinion" roflmao 😃😃

Let the hiding and sand ducking begin !!!!!😃😃

I’d prefer to know exactly what you’re referring to.

As of yesterday, nothing of significance has changed.

originally posted by: xuenchen

Looks like many people can't even distinguish between "official" and "outside opinion"

I think there's a clear disconnect between people's interpretation of "update".


Official: Day 1 - We don't know anything yet, we'll update you
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Official Day 5 - We Still don't know anything yet, we'll update you.


In the above scenario, I dont consider that to be an "update", merely a regurgitation of what they already did not know. Some may, however, consider that to be an actual update official or otherwise.

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
Arizona Forensic Audit SPECIAL REPORT with Dr. Kelli Ward, May 17, 2021

Antrim county in Michigan had a "vulnerability audit" conducted. No widespread uproar.

Anyway, the results showed many open-doors to cheating with the Dominion system. These findings are now in a holding-pattern, awaiting the Maricopa county Arizona forensic audit results.

Source: www.washingtonexaminer.com...

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: xuenchen

Looks like many people can't even distinguish between "official" and "outside opinion"

I think there's a clear disconnect between people's interpretation of "update".


Official: Day 1 - We don't know anything yet, we'll update you
.
.
Official Day 5 - We Still don't know anything yet, we'll update you.


In the above scenario, I dont consider that to be an "update", merely a regurgitation of what they already did not know. Some may, however, consider that to be an actual update official or otherwise.

Ah yes, a very distinguishable opinion and red herring !!! 😎

They're getting nervous 😎

a reply to: carewemust

"By deciding this motion, the court is not saying that there were no problems in the way that Antrim County conducting its November 2020 elections," Elsenheimer said. "The clerk has admitted that there were challenges and problems in the elections, although the hand count ultimately of the presidential election showed the results were largely consistent with the canvas totals that were entered by the state and reported by the county. Nor am I saying that the processing of election data here wasn't corrupted or corruptible. I don't have the facts to make that determination."

He then referred to the recent Colonial Pipeline hack that caused gasoline shortages in swaths of the country.

"The plaintiff's reports and news of the day, including a computer hack recently of a main petro fuel pipeline on the East Coast might well suggest that this is something that policymakers should be looking into in the future. If election results were to be held for ransom in the future, one could only imagine what would happen," he said.

"I am saying that as pled, the plaintiffs's request for an audit is not available. Anticipating the possibility of appeal, this court will take all pending motions under advisement," he added.

DePerno did not return the Washington Examiner's request for comment on an appeal and any other next steps. He did react on Twitter, saying: "Apparently the SOS can conduct the audit in any way she determines even if she is actively part of the fraud."

During an appearance with Bailey on Monday, DePerno told supporters that "explosive" evidence showed there were multiple ways there could have been issues with ballot tabulation and called on state legislators to conduct a statewide audit of the election as an alternative to the court system route.

Benson celebrated the judge's ruling Tuesday in a statement, which noted that Elsenheimer is a former Republican state legislator.

"The dismissal of the last of the lawsuits attempting to undermine democracy in furtherance of the Big Lie affirms that despite intense scrutiny, and an unprecedented misinformation campaign, the 2020 election was fair and secure, and the results accurately reflect the will of the voters," she said.

Something about serial numbers missing from ballots.

Serial numbers missing between original, duplicate ballots in Arizona election audit: official

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a reply to: xuenchen

What red herring? And what anxiety? I dont live in Arizona, and i know nothing will change except maybe a law or 2 here and there, zero sum game to me.

All im saying is that there could be a misinterpretation.....does that kind of thing not register with you?

a reply to: alphabetaone

I think there's a clear disconnect between people's interpretation of "update".

I'd say that disconnect is between the definition of "update" and "conclusion."

In any ongoing situation -- as the audit most definitely is -- any and all reports of new information or actions since the last report is an update. The Arizona Senate conducting a hearing, with testimony and reports from the auditors, is an "update."

The audit isn't over, the report isn't written and released, and the Senate has not yet (because they cannot) responded in either word or deed. So there is no conclusion.

Only updates.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Something about serial numbers missing from ballots.

Serial numbers missing between original, duplicate ballots in Arizona election audit: official

justthenews.com... il&utm_campaign=newsletter

!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ohuuuuuu 🤣

An Official Update !! 😎

The Arizona Senate's audit of Maricopa County's general election has hit a new snag: verifying whether some ballots may have been counted twice.

The liaison between Senate Republicans who authorized the audit and county officials told a hearing Tuesday that serial numbers were missing on damaged ballots that were duplicated so they could be read by vote tabulation machines.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: alphabetaone

I think there's a clear disconnect between people's interpretation of "update".

I'd say that disconnect is between the definition of "update" and "conclusion."

Could be right about that. Either way my point was a misinterpretation which you seem to agree with.

Kelli Ward recaps yesterdays meeting. Best to start in at 2:55

a reply to: IAMTAT

Something about serial numbers missing from ballots.

I'd sure like to know how many ballots we're talking about. I found a video and a transcript of that conversation, but it's not clear if it's some or all of the original ballots. This is Ken Bennett speaking at the hearing:

Madam President, this comes right out of ars.16.621 which says, “if any ballot including any ballot received from early voting is damaged or defective so that it cannot properly be counted by the automatic tabulating equipment, a true duplicate copy shall be made of the damaged or defective ballot in the presence of witnesses and substituted for the damaged or defective ballot.” It also says “all duplicated duplicate ballots created pursuant to this subsection shall be clearly labeled duplicate and shall bear a serial number that shall be recorded on the damaged or defective ballot.” We’ve started into our first boxes of ballots that were damaged and had to be sent to duplication, there are some other situations, for example, braille ballots – I looked at a box of braille ballots the other day and a braille ballot is about the size of a cookbook and it’s got a big plastic ring thing on the side and it’s about an inch thick and that has to be determined what were the votes in that and those votes have to be reflected on a duplicate ballot. As we were going through some of the early boxes of boxes marked as original or damaged ballots sent to duplication, we then went to boxes marked duplicate ballots and we are finding a six-digit unique identifier serial number, it says in “16621” on the duplicate ballots, but we’re not finding a corresponding serial number on the original ballot that was damaged or otherwise had to be duplicated. In fact I was so surprised that I brought the two observers from the Secretary of State’s office over along with some other volunteer observers from various parties just to – kind of – document that we’re running into batch after batch after batch of ballots sent to duplication, but there’s no unique serial number or identification number on the ballot that had to be duplicated – that should correspond with a ballot over in the “has been duplicated box” because those should match up one-for-one – and obviously they should add up the total number of ballots as a whole, but you literally should be able to say ‘here’s the damaged ballot” and it’s “123456” and “here’s the duplicated ballot” “123456” and anyone could be, should be, able to audit and say “yes we can see that the votes off of the damaged ballot – that the machine couldn’t read – have been correctly… made”. And so we are struggling as to how we’re going to be able to match up ballots sent to be duplicated with the ballots that were duplicated, if one of those – the originals – are missing that six-digit number… we’re struggling as to how we’re going to be able to match the originals to the duplicates if the originals don’t have the same serial number as required by 16.621 as the duplicate palette does.

ETA: Link
Here is a video of Bennett's statements:

a reply to: alphabetaone

Either way my point was a misinterpretation which you seem to agree with.

Just one more example.

There's plenty of disconnects and misinterpretations going on. I would say most are honest in nature. Much of this is difficult to put in perspective or context if you aren't familiar with it.

Not all though. Those who are most familiar with the matters are also most capable of creating disconnects and misinterpretations... aka mistruths and half truths and outright disinfo.

a reply to: Boadicea

That was my take away as well - link

Even if you cant match them up , do the stack of dupes match the stack of originals in numbers(maybe the original are just mixed in?), or can they simply not find them? Even without a match, you could still check the tallies if the originals are separated out
Even if this is never resolved, is the impact negligible?

originally posted by: 111DPKING111
a reply to: Boadicea

That was my take away as well - link

Even if you cant match them up , do the stack of dupes match the stack of originals in numbers(maybe the original are just mixed in?), or can they simply not find them? Even without a match, you could still check the tallies if the originals are separated out
Even if this is never resolved, is the impact negligible?

Yes! Those are also questions we need answered. If we can at least match the number of original ballots with the duplicate ballots, then we can rule out the so-called "phantom" ballots.

I'm also wondering if they are/can be matched by voting precincts, and absentee drop-offs or mail-ins. Or some other way to narrow some of the questions down.

So often, the new info or "answers" we get just raise more questions. And why aren't reporters and others -- including Fann -- asking the right questions in the first place? So frustrating!

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Something about serial numbers missing from ballots.

It is simple...

The original 'spoiled' ballots that are duplicated must bear a unique serial number that ties it to the new/replacing ballot that duplicated it.

The original 'spoiled' ballots are all missing this unique serial#, thereby making it impossible to match them up (origina/spoiled ballots and the ones that duplicated them), making it extremely difficult if not impossible to prove that they were duplicated incorrectly (whether intentional or not is another matter).