Businesses Close To Protect Us They Need Reimbursed By Us

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: headcheck
I run a small business. I will not be closing again, I will be resisting any future shutdowns. Just put up a brand new bright neon OPEN sign too.

Nice. May I suggest hiring a lawyer to you and anyone still in business?
I'm talking a minimum 10 million dollar lawsuit. Civil rights violations can bypass gov/taxpayer paid out damages.
You can go after them personally.

It's the only non violent way, when they leverage your biz licenses.
Put the mf'n screws to them.

At the least they will put you on the essential list with Walmart.
You don't even need to pay them off like big corps.
Take their bank account and empty it.

It will only take one case and the rest will realize their place.
Good luck dude

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edit on 5-12-2020 by headcheck because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: headcheck
I run a small business. I will not be closing again, I will be resisting any future shutdowns. Just put up a brand new bright neon OPEN sign too.

That's great and that's how everybody needs to be. How are the local restrictions and overall economic climate


If you don't mind me asking what kind of business, my daughter absolutely loves Seattle.... good luck

I can't say what business, it's so niche and boutique it would be really easy to find out who I am.

originally posted by: mtnshredder
a reply to: Blaine91555
This guy makes a few good points.

He ain't wrong... and he is so right about propping up special interests on both sides of the aisle, while they fought over the peanuts to give to the small and medium-sized businesses.

Like was said here early on how the f--- is Krystal's and Wendy's essential ,we were lied to.

a reply to: Blaine91555
I didn't ask to be protected and owe nothing to anyone. I would say the government should pay, but that's partly my money as well. Then again, all the government does with our money is investigate each other and waste it on bs.

In my City I have seen a lot of Businesses closing lately.....and I am glad for it....no more Cupcake Shoppes and Bubble-Tea Houses and places that serve zero purpose besides supporting raw consumerism.....we had an entire Middle-Class of miniature Napoleons who all decided they were just to good to work a real job and they chose to become independent Business People feeding off of the masses in any legal ways possible....my god it was getting sickening.....and it had to stop.....lots of places had to have been laundering cashola because even ten years ago many had almost zero customers per day coming in but they stayed open for decades.....I think THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of businesses going under now were laundering money anyways.

originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: Blaine91555

No, I didn't make more, and am facing the loss of a career. It's not pretty for anybody out there, unless your name is Bezos.

This is the saddest part for me.

Whether by design or organic, the result had been equity flooding to corporations, an already growing trend.

It seemed a bit lopsided and often arbitrary on what was deemed essential or not. The favorability looked to go on corporate.

There's always been the subtle or sometimes blatant reasoning come up too big to fail. And whenever you hear that argument, bad things tend to follow.

Why should we reimburse ANY private business? We don't get a cut of the profits, when times were good for that business. They knew when they applied for business license that the government has the power to shut them down.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
If a business closes due to a government order to protect the public, the public should immediately reimburse them, and their employees out of their pockets. They should be made whole and made whole quickly.

Lot of those business owners voted for the jackasses that are actually behind the shutdowns, too. From my viewpoint any reimbursement should first come from the politicians who are playing dictator and, if there's money left due when they are wrung out, the tax payers pick up the slack but we do so Roman style with the corrupt and malfeasant leaders repaying the tax payers in pounds of flesh. Further, there are more business owners than there are city officials, cops, and compliance officers... strength in numbers and you know as well as I do that they'd have had a human wall of support had they chosen to stand and fight... but they didn't. They played nicey-nice and obeyed corrupt leaders' draconian mandates.

Sorry, I didn't agree to this horsecrap and I don't have any intention of voluntarily joining in to pay for it.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: dug88

It is what it is, and that's not the topic. This is about what has and is happening.

No, it isn't "what it is." It's the results of allowing utter imbeciles to vote for entitled and wealthy imbeciles for positions of great power in a country that is allegedly "free." Let me know when the business owners want freedom again, I'll happily assist them in that endeavor...

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: dug88

Sigh

I asked you to please not make it political. Are you incapable of that?

This is about how do we deal with what has already happened. Do we turn our backs on people?

It is political and efforts to break it from politics just ensure it will happen again, and again, and again. I don't necessarily agree that accepting the fact that elections have consequences is "turning our backs" on people. People need to experience responsibility for their voting trends, PERIOD. Until they experience that to it's fullest, the stupidity will never end and Whitmers, Berkowitzes, Lujan-Grishoms, and DeWines will just get elected again, and again, and again. Wash, rinse, repeat. Allow people to fully realize the price of their own ignorance or, in many cases, the ignorance of their neighbor. Let them get pissed off, let them get desperate, and let them LEARN that elections have consequences and freedom is absolutely a partisan political concept.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: TKDRL

They were destroyed to protect us, were they not?

They were destroyed to push and agenda and protect a narrative. You know that and I know that. Life sucks, buy a helmet... or vote for a governor or mayor that promises to ban anything that could potentially cause a head injury. To accept the spin that this was all about "protecting us" is about as logical as buying that a rapist rapes a woman out of love.

a reply to: Blaine91555

Two things, Government money is Public money from taxes! Ergo when government runs dry they will come for more. Cyprus had a bank account "Haircut", their government took from every citizens bank account 30% if my memory serves....

Blaine where were you and where was the people, when America turned their backs on the VN era Veterans and they made the promise benefits impossible to receive or the money was withdrawn i.e. like the VA hospitals, Clawing back the GI Bill for education, not finished the semester due to hospitalization in a VA Hospital for 59 days due to an Intern not Doctors mistake on a broken leg almost lost my foot!? I live outside my country as a born and raised Californian Served US Army in key rolls 1970 - 76. With an Honourable Discharge (2) and medal for Valour I could not get Safeway to give back my promised job back, Retail Clerks Union sided with Safeway thus making Congress Promise and Retail Clerks guarantee Job replace card worthless. Made me feel like a murderer! This is how homeless in the US started with our VETS. I received so much discrimination for doing my duty with a draft no of 87, I left USA 40 years ago.

Americans do not give a **** about Vets and never attempted to make it right for us, why on earth would the public want to help businesses.

Think about it!

Life is not fair, America taught me this and now the elections are proving it!

I have a wonderful life living away from the States.



NB: I use "U" in words, as the country who accepted me as VN Era Veteran and been challenged by a turkey here and sent medals and two HD's to him......

I am still as you can read angry about this as I had an honourable 6 years so I am not collecting Social Security that I paid into the US as I want nothing to do with any connection to the American Government. That was not a cheap decision on my part but when you have been treated as I have in California from 1976 -1983 your only choice is to leave and watch the deterioration. I am a man without a flag! BTW I have a great life but blood boils over posts like this and the elections.

Ideally, I'm totally against the government at any level interfering in the economy and our lives to any extent much less what we have seen this year.

Ideally, once we knew and understood how the virus is spread, we would have willingly done things like wear a mask, maintain physical distance, wash our hands regularly and avoid large groups.

Ideally, humans would have enough sense and self-preservation to make these relatively small adjustments cooperatively to deny the virus a vector and sharply curtail the pandemic.

Sadly, that is the ideal, not the reality. This year has pretty much finished the destruction of my ideals.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Nyiah

You and I both know that most people were not hurt financially.

I honestly do not know 1 single person who has not been hurt financially.

Sure those who had money in the bank were able to tolerate the pain a little more than those living paycheck to paycheck.

Unless my town is located in the Twilight Zone, to say that "most people were not hurt financially" is totally false.

I would say that a large majority of people were hurt financially to some extent. It's just that some of them had a cushion to soften the blow.

originally posted by: IceHappy
a reply to: Blaine91555

Two things, Government money is Public money from taxes! Ergo when government runs dry they will come for more. Cyprus had a bank account "Haircut", their government took from every citizens bank account 30% if my memory serves....

Blaine where were you and where was the people, when America turned their backs on the VN era Veterans and they made the promise benefits impossible to receive or the money was withdrawn i.e. like the VA hospitals, Clawing back the GI Bill for education, not finished the semester due to hospitalization in a VA Hospital for 59 days due to an Intern not Doctors mistake on a broken leg almost lost my foot!? I live outside my country as a born and raised Californian Served US Army in key rolls 1970 - 76. With an Honourable Discharge (2) and medal for Valour I could not get Safeway to give back my promised job back, Retail Clerks Union sided with Safeway thus making Congress Promise and Retail Clerks guarantee Job replace card worthless. Made me feel like a murderer! This is how homeless in the US started with our VETS. I received so much discrimination for doing my duty with a draft no of 87, I left USA 40 years ago.

Americans do not give a **** about Vets and never attempted to make it right for us, why on earth would the public want to help businesses.

Think about it!

Life is not fair, America taught me this and now the elections are proving it!

I have a wonderful life living away from the States.



NB: I use "U" in words, as the country who accepted me as VN Era Veteran and been challenged by a turkey here and sent medals and two HD's to him......

I am still as you can read angry about this as I had an honourable 6 years so I am not collecting Social Security that I paid into the US as I want nothing to do with any connection to the American Government. That was not a cheap decision on my part but when you have been treated as I have in California from 1976 -1983 your only choice is to leave and watch the deterioration. I am a man without a flag! BTW I have a great life but blood boils over posts like this and the elections.

I ,too am a Veteran of the Vietnam War. Was in the Air Force. Some one said this : WAR IS A RACKET But that person also should have said what he meant in English and this is what I would have liked to have heard, " We have wars to keep our people employed making military hardware and to secure the necessary drugs that keep Americans dumbed down.

Being stationed in Thailand at the time and my job was ... Although our aircraft never flew over Vietnam, our missions were in Burma, Laos and Cambodia . Ever wonder how all them Thai sticks laced with opium got into the military personal hands. Many of us Vets here have our own stories. Mine is this ( and yes, I, too , do not live in America ) Americans against Americans. Society, as a whole nation is doomed with such plans for its peoples survival.

originally posted by: headcheck

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: headcheck
I run a small business. I will not be closing again, I will be resisting any future shutdowns. Just put up a brand new bright neon OPEN sign too.

That's great and that's how everybody needs to be. How are the local restrictions and overall economic climate


If you don't mind me asking what kind of business, my daughter absolutely loves Seattle.... good luck

I can't say what business, it's so niche and boutique it would be really easy to find out who I am.

No worries, but Id bet that makes it even more difficult in these economic times unless it's off the charts useful or essential.

originally posted by: headcheck

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: headcheck
I run a small business. I will not be closing again, I will be resisting any future shutdowns. Just put up a brand new bright neon OPEN sign too.

That's great and that's how everybody needs to be. How are the local restrictions and overall economic climate


If you don't mind me asking what kind of business, my daughter absolutely loves Seattle.... good luck

I can't say what business, it's so niche and boutique it would be really easy to find out who I am.

No worries, but Id bet that makes it even more difficult in these economic times unless it's off the charts useful or essential.

a reply to: headcheck

How is it possible to get an average of 13,686 stars per comment?

Best comments... EVERRRRRR?!?!

Dominion involvement?

just curious

I say everyone sucks it up. I’m one who was forced out of their job, I didn’t make more on unemployment and they didn’t even pay the unemployment until almost 3 months after applying. By time I had gotten my first unemployment check, I had found another job already. In the meantime, my family took some major hits and is still recovering. So to tax me more to help the business owner isn’t gonna help the situation, although that business owner did lose everything.

originally posted by: slatesteam

originally posted by: mikell
Let the lawyers handle it thats what this whole mess is about..

2020: in-Home sourdough
2021: Lawyer Stew

Lawyer stew ?
Yech. stringy and greasy.


Don't ask how I know.