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originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: interupt42
originally posted by: Creep Thumper
originally posted by: interupt42
originally posted by: cherokeetroy
a reply to: interupt42
And when all parties are tentacles of the same swamp creature?
It's time for people to wake up and stop pouring faith into a system that, by design, was never meant to liberate us but only control and enslave us. Until we hold ourselves accountable, nothing on the outside changes
Don't disagree with that but overlooking your own candidate and parties wrong doing is certainly not going to help.Yet everyone keeps doing it year after year and why we end up with the lesser evil BS.
People need to call a turd a turd and demand better.
The way to accomplish what you've all been talking about is a major, nationwide write-in campaign.
Unfortunately I think we would need both individual republicans and democrats to acknowledge that both party and just about every candidate that we are ALLOWED to vote for are likely compromised and join forces to call out both parties and MSM BS.
Unfortunately they(GOP,DNC,MSM) have made it blasphemy to hold your own party and candidate accountable to the point they turned neighbors and family against each other despite wanting the same things for the most part.
You are right but what we have is a system stolen from us by both parties. TPTB have controlled opposition in place everywhere. We just need to find a way to not have to pick between the same two parties. We also need to vote none of the above collectively to dump this party system.
originally posted by: summer5
Oh My. Documents released this evening tie millions from foreign sources to the Hunter Biden, Devon Archer and John Kerry and his family!
Documents reportedly leaked from the Ukrainian General Prosecutor’s office show complex money transfers from foreign sources into former President Obama’s Vice President and Secretary of State’s families –
Don't know if you've seen this yet... Just came up in Parler feed.
musamedia.com... -the-john-kerry-family/
This describes the money transfer of
$14,655,982 and $366,015 EUR from “Wirelogic Technology AS”, and
$1,964,375 from “Digitex Organization LLP”.
Further, part of the sums described above were transferred to Alan Apter, Alexander Kwasniewski, Devon Archer and Hunter Biden.
originally posted by: FlyingFox
Is this exact moment theCalm Before The Storm?
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: tanstaafl
The suspense, the uncertainty, is maddeningly frustrating and exhausting.
At least it is very near the end now, no matter which way it turns.
originally posted by: saladfingers123456
a reply to: interupt42
If non of it comes off, then I fear there will be bigger things to worry about than holding people to account. I do understand your perspective, of course. I mean, you aren't wrong. I just think that it is impossible to know what is really going on.
If there truly is a military operation going on (which I believe there is), then if the "nice" version doesn't work, then I'm pretty sure there is an unfortunate backup plan in place, otherwise it's all lost. If that doesn't happen, and non of it happens, then firstly, it would be odd.. given everything up to now... secondly... it would mean that it was all a ruse. The only reason for the ruse would be to identify all opposition to the N W O...
But if that were true, well, they didn't need to do all of this... they have such deep surveillance anyway, that they could determine that anyway.
One way or another... something is going to go down. I'm kind of inclined to believe the ghost at this point, that it will go right up to the finish line... when everyone has lost all hope. Trust pushed to the absolute limit. Too much for some people to take.
But my gut feeling, is that time is up for the dark ones. They've had their time, and cosmically, things will change. As above, so below. Time will tell. *resumes biting what little nails I have left* : )
originally posted by: pteridine
originally posted by: FinallyFree72
originally posted by: MetalThunder
IMO ~
Just poking my head in to say HOLD FAST - Wash-outs are to be expected
12/18 is/has been my date I've been waiting for MI signs of action - then the 21st ( you know the EVIL entities are going to have a ritual or two on tap)
So much has been posted here (in all the threads ) ahead of its TIME - REFLECTION is good for the SOUL
Remember politics is a very small component to this Epic Q adventure, though it overwhelms the census, with the repeating news cycle ..... learn to look past it. A lot is coming down the TUBES .... Tick Tock
Godspeed
I could be wrong - I probably am wrong - but I just don’t see the trump team taking action right before Christmas. They know Americans are weary and I think it’s obvious that most people need a festive holiday to recharge. If it has to be that way on their end then it is what it is but if they have any say at all, I strongly suspect they will leave Christmas alone. Then again, everyone (including most of antifa) will be distracted (and dispersed) leading up to the holiday so maybe it’s the perfect time. Dang, I just went and argued down my own point.
I was trying to reconcile this also. Maybe the action will be taken (or already has been taken -- my bet) covertly with the actual announcement of arrests between Christmas and New Year to allow some enjoyment of holidays by us common folk. The lead up could be the exposition of evidence to the public on the 20th to get the information out and give people time to explore it. The MSM may be influenced to tell the truth with more black eyes [perhaps a sign of submission] and enforced "vacations." The media folk are now generally spineless sellouts so providing them with freedom from their slave master media moguls may inspire them. I'd send each a portfolio of pics from GTMO that show cells, food, common areas, smiling USMC guards. The uninspired would each go on a vacation.
originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: Flesh699
That fleshed your prior post. Apologies.
Been thinking about all the madness that's been unleashed. The other day I mentioned it's like Satan has been released.
Others say we're watching a movie. In Revelation, the sky rolls up like a scroll.
I'm waiting for that. I'm waiting because the level of madness and evil that has been unleashed by the left is mind-boggling. All the laws blatantly broken. All the vile people cheated into office. All the vile policies they want to pass and enforce with law enforcement agencies that are being crippled.
The ship is on its side taking on water. The clock is ticking. She's on her way to the bottom.
I'm at the point where I can only read headlines. I cannot open the articles. It's too much.
But why, thumper? You know who we’re dealing with. You’ve known the military was going to have to get involved. These people never were going away without a fight. And you know this. If they lose this they are one step away from being exposed. And you know this. Did you really think Zuckerberg and the rest of the lizards were just gonna go “well, we lost the election. What are ya gonna do?” And you know this.
We’re going to war. We’re going to have to fight for our country, and for the freedom of the world...and we’re even going to have to fight for the human race.
It’s going to be scary, but we were born for this. That’s why were here. Don’t lose conviction now.
originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: pteridine
All this Inaction is bad. better to let some get away and keep the presidency. I dont believe ANY of the q drop stupidity.
Time to move of get the hell out the way.
originally posted by: pteridine
originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: pteridine
All this Inaction is bad. better to let some get away and keep the presidency. I dont believe ANY of the q drop stupidity.
Time to move of get the hell out the way.
We don't know if there is inaction; I suspect that there is a great deal of action. Public action will occur when it needs to occur. Remember that we are told to watch the movie and not necessarily participate in it and screw things up.
What do you mean by "Time to move or get the hell out the way?" Who is getting out of the way? How do you know when it is time to move and who is to be moving?
It's easy to get caught up in the black and white and ignore the gray.
originally posted by: CanadianMason
a reply to: interupt42
If Trump isn't the Wheel of Fortune, then he is both a Fool and a Charlatan/Magician.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: Creep Thumper
originally posted by: Xactamundo
a reply to: Creep Thumper
Count on me to ditch the GOP."
They abandoned their man. To me that makes them doubly traitorous.
Not all of them...
Come on man!
Instead of just making grandiose blanket condemnations of the GOP, how about we just make it over into what we want it to be?
I mean - isn't that really what Trump has already done?
Look at the new crop of fresh Republicans taking office next year in Congress.
Or, yeah, you could just all give up, and America disintegrates into dust, with a bunch of pink-pussy-hat wearing trans lizards at the helm.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: CoramDeo
a reply to: tanstaafl
Here's the deal. Win or lose this election cycle, people need to walk away from the GOP.
...snip
The GOP is DOA as far as I am concerned, so much dead weight in the body politic.
There are many reasons why this is a bad idea, but the main one is the time and resources needed to do things like get on the ballot in every State for local, State and Federal elections purposes. This is why the Libertarian party never went anywhere - and why Ron Paul ended up winning once he ran as a republican.
The GOP is just a label. A placeholder. No... much better to just take the GOP over. It would be more fun too...
originally posted by: FlyingFox
a reply to: tanstaafl
I say it's best to take over the Democrat party instead.
originally posted by: CoramDeo
a reply to: butcherguy
Why not both?
Why would anyone want to remake any of the current parties in the US?
It's like trying to repurpose a rotting animal carcas on the side of the road.
No matter how hard you try, it will always be smelly and rotten, just like the GOP, the Demcratic Pary, the Libertarian party, the Communist party, the Socialist party, the Green party, the Constitution party, the Nazi pary, etc.
ALL. GODDAMN. ROTTEN. STINKING. PUTRID. GARBAGE.
Every last one of them.
I need that new car smell, not that Punxsutawney Phil smell.
🌴😎🌴
originally posted by: CoramDeo
originally posted by: FlyingFox
a reply to: CoramDeo
It's not a matter of liking the parties, per se. It's othewise impossible to get on the ballot as Independent. You need sigs and petitions, with the entrenched politicians "cross-filing" as D and R, in order to bump off the newcomer candidate.
That is, if you are an R and are incumbent with name recognition, you also run as D in the primary....to bump off newbie CoramDeo from even making the general election.
I understand.
The point I'm trying to make is that there is a solid chance, and reason, for Trump to start a new party. If he wins, dump the Republican party. If he loses, fire up a new party.
As it stands now, I can no longer participate. I realize that might have been the goal all along, but it's become pointless. As a matter of fact, I've been tuning out a lot lately. No news, or politics, or ATS until late in the evening.
You know what, it's refreshing. Not that I don't love all you guys, but I also don't miss it. It's all just chewing gum for the brian, no nutritional value. I've just become an encyclopedia of stuff that no one else cares about in my real life.
Anyway, good point. Need to go inventory my pitchforks and torches.
originally posted by: Thoughtful1
So let me see if I understand this. In 2016 Hillary and the Dems were using Dominion, SmartMatic and SolarWinds to steal the election. They knew she couldn't win just based on the crowd sizes and the enthusiasm so they felt confident that they needed to use the system. Russia and other countries knew about the system and it's ability to change ballots, and maybe found out about it through Clinton's hacked server.
What to do, because for various reasons,[ maybe something about the Uranium one deal], they did not want Clinton/Biden and Dem team in power so they cyber hacked the system and ensured that all legal votes were counted. Trump did win and he did have help from Russia and that was to ensure the election was not rigged.
Then the 2020 election comes up and the Dems know that Russia had hacked the Dominion servers. I would think that over the four years they would have had time to repair the damage and ensure that Russia could not correct the fraud.
But maybe they were unsure so they fired up the system to manipulate the votes but as an insurance policy they also had manual ballot changes, fake ballots printed, absentee ballots and on and on, but they were too successful! The public now has become very aware that the entire election was rigged.
2016 election was Ku quote " rigged for red", the legitimate president Trump won.
Now we have the Ku picture of Santa with the Hammer. Are we in for a Christmas surprise?
Is this right and is there more?