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a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

EMN, not meant as an argument to your comment, just a shallow dig.

Brief note. That article in Cipher Brief was written by the Soufan Center. The CEO of that organization is Ali Soufan, a former FBI agent.

Not sure where they stand, but a brief look at their site suggests strong support for the traditional establishment. I am no fan of the extreme right wing, but am skeptical of using them as whipping boys when there is an entire spectrum of shady political activity going on. Ali Soufan may be worth a dig. He claims that as an FBI agent, he could have averted 9-11 had Langley provided him with their intel. No idea if his claim is nonsense, or not.

Cheers

a reply to: Justoneman

Jom, I truly hope you're right!

Just pointing out the instruction not to spill or consume blood.

originally posted by: Guyfriday

originally posted by: crankyoldman
I would say the suggestion is that "China" didn't do it - as in Xi, but "china" did it, as in dark forces. More importantly then the alleged virus, is the PR campaign. This was "china" and the US minions, who, by their actions were outed.

I was chewing on this like a over cooked piece of bat. I'm wondering if we should start to say; "It came from China", rather then "China did it"?

Let's look at what J Roberts said:

A Senior Intelligence Source tells me there is agreement among most of the 17 Intelligence agencies that COVID-19 originated in the Wuhan lab. The source stressed that the release is believed to be a MISTAKE, and was not intentional.

This means that at least one strain of the Corona Virus was messed with by humans. This would mean that someone at the lab had done something that caused the virus to be released into the public. How could a virology lab allow that kind of accident to happen unless China is so sloppy with regulations, that it just doesn't care or isn't aware of what happens at it's labs? If anything this would mean that the Chinese Government is in damage control over this rather then cover-up of an intentional act. It looks more and more that the virus "came from China", and not "China did it".

I think we should start asking who controls the lab? Sure it might be a Chinese Lab, but is it though? Has anyone bought off people that work there? What do we really know about the lab?

How could "Intelligence Sources" know that it was a "MISTAKE" unless they know more than they are saying. Wasn't it revealed in one of our "Q" threads that "something-something" was tainted around the same time this virus started to hit the public? If this was all a cover-up, then who is covering-up what?

The CCP isn't as unified as people think. There are at least two factions, possibly three.

First, you have the Tsinghua clique. This is what Xi Jingping belongs to. From Wikipedia:

The term Tsinghua clique refers to a group of Socialist Chinese politicians that have graduated or have taught at Tsinghua University (Chinese: 清华大学; pinyin: Qīnghuá Dàxué). They are members of the fourth generation of Chinese leadership, and are purported to hold powerful reformist ideas (a number have studied in the United States following graduation from Tsinghua, and some are said to be influenced by the reform ideals of Hu Yaobang). Just like their predecessors, they attach great importance to socialism with Chinese characteristics. Their ascendance to power is likely to have begun in 2008 at the 17th National Congress of the CPC.

Tsinghua graduates who have political prominence are disproportionately greater in number than graduates of other famous universities. Among the nine standing committees at the Politburo, there are four Tsinghua graduates; among the 24 Politburo committee members, there are five; and of all the "leaders of the party and the country", there are 10.

en.wikipedia.org...

And then you have the Shanghai clique:

The Shanghai clique (simplified Chinese: 上海帮; traditional Chinese: 上海幫; pinyin: Shànghǎi bāng) is the name given to an informal group of officials in the Communist Party of China, especially those who serve in the Central Committee or the Central Government of China, who rose to prominence in connection to the Shanghai municipal administration under Jiang Zemin, former General Secretary of the Communist Party of China.

This phrase was used somewhat pejoratively to describe Jiang's efforts to promote people who previously worked, or were associated with, his administration in Shanghai. However, none of the "Shanghai clique" members are originally from Shanghai, rather, the city is where they reached political prominence. It is more appropriately referred to as the "Jiang clique".

Members of the Shanghai clique are marked by their tendency to represent urban business interests of the coastal regions, many of them princelings, the children of revolutionary veterans, and their expertise in commercial affairs.

en.wikipedia.org...

From my understanding, what happened was that the Shanghai clique released the virus 'accidentally on purpose' because their businesses were suffering under the US tariffs and they wanted to get out of the trade agreement that Xi had signed and renegotiate with a new US president. The Shanghai clique are the ones that have the most to lose if Made in China 2020/2025/2030 doesn't become a reality (which it won't now - without US innovation they don't stand a chance), because they have poured all their money into becoming the dominant commercial force in the world.

Unfortunately they didn't anticipate just how transmissible the virus was. By the time the Tsinghua clique found out about it, it was way too late to do anything except isolate the entire city of Wuhan and contact trace those who had it to eradicate it. That's why it was a mistake and not an accident.

Then some bright spark had the idea that they should allow the virus to spread around the world and then China would come in on their white horse and save the day. Unfortunately, they didn't anticipate that a) the US would shut down flights and b) it would be used as an excuse to pass legislation banning China from the key technology necessary to reach their stated aims. The Shanghai Clique never thought that Trump would out think them - instead of nations buying ventilators from China, they are now buying them from the US - even as Gavin Newsom sends $1b to China to try keep the dialog open between California and China.

It's basically a power struggle within the CCP that caused it all - a lot of in fighting. Now apparently everyone wants to kill Xi because Trump hasn't lowered the tariffs at all and Xi doesn't want to lose face because he realises that Trump will probably win in November anyway.

Of course, you've still people like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation backed Project Syndicate saying how awful it will be for the US if they decouple from China. I can guarantee you that the United States will be just fine without them. The only people a decoupling will be awful for are the globalists - and who cares about them, really?

a reply to: Guyfriday

There are different factions inside of any large government. Many parties have access to places such as the now infamous Wuhan lab.

We had our own security breech in USA with Anthrax spores out of Ft Dietrich. Surely there's more to the story in that case, just like there are multiple vektors which a mundane virus like CV19 could emanate from, specifically, rogue elements in China, not official channels.

That does sound very strange.

Asheville the home of the Biltmore. Seems like a wonderful place when I visited. I love the Biltmore wines. I have family 100 miles or so south of there on the Cherokee reservation. We have only been once but it looks beautiful there. I think I heard a bunch of PC types live there like Oregon or Washington.

originally posted by: LanceCorvette
Not sure if this fits here or not, but very unusual airplane sighting here in Asheville / Western North Carolina, strange things afoot:

Four, I'll call them two-engine "passenger" type airplanes - they were in the clouds, so high up. But big, like a regional jet airliner. All grey though.

Flying about 1/2 mile apart from each other in a line.

And each one had four jet fighter escorts right/off their wing, two on each side. Like couldn't have been 20 feet between wing tips for all of them.

Heading from about NE to SW, so across the usual approach pattern to the local airport.

Very unusual. I've never seen that before anywhere, and it's infrequent to even see fighter jets around here (although I have seen them in the past).

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

Bastards!

a reply to: OsirianObsidian

a reply to: FlyingFox


These are kind of my points. Who's loyalties does the people behind this virus episode belong to? Are they part of the China, are they part of a globalist agenda, or are they part of something else all together?

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Hmm, that's quite interesting. That's a bold claim. May have to look into him. You may have noticed beneath that article is posted a letter from someone with the Azov press that took strong objection to the article. I did come across a few other sources that mentioned same connection with the NZ shooter but who knows; info warfare. From his manifesto he seemed to have connections all over including one neo-nazi group in the US (forgot what they called themselves) but they were busted in 2019 or 2018. Alot of suspicious and nefarious connections appear to point to 2014 Ukrainian revolution timeframe...from mercenary types to high level politicians to intel agencies and oligarchs.

a reply to: Sabrechucker

Wow. Covert 5G. Gotta blend in with the environment... outta sight, outta mind, nothing to see here.

If FEMA has been doing maybe it's for a new COG deep state network. Like a Project 908 upgrade.

a reply to: OsirianObsidian

Funny how we were both typing out the same lingo about "factions" in China. I didn't see your post until I got caught up.

originally posted by: FlyingFox
a reply to: SuperStudChuck

Born 9 months after JFK's death, I feel the GenX vibe, which meant growing up with zero representation in the media, and for me, the most real feeling of being turned away from a corporate job, literally for being white.

Those of us who are just after the boomers have had to suffer from more than just their numbers. They took all the good jobs just before we got there and have been our bosses at most places. Most of them are going now but being right behind them they think the NEW people with the proper papers from the Universities are better looking than a Gen X'er like us FF. Too old now, when I was too young the whole time. I was born at the wrong time. It is what it is.

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

You may have noticed beneath that article is posted a letter from someone with the Azov press that took strong objection to the article.

Yeah, their official press organ, so no surprise that they took umbrage at the article. Organizations don't randomly pick their heraldic imagery, and the Wolfsangel symbolizes traps and revenge. The Azov crew may be fighting on behalf of whoever in Ukraine, but they seem to carry more than a whiff of connection to the old UPA, an organization that was happy enough to work hand-in-hand with the Nazis as well as engage in war crimes when it suited them.

Still, I wonder about Soufan. Things like, does his organization dedicate a similar amount of concern to the doings of Antifa.

Cheers

originally posted by: crankyoldman
RE: House Arrest.

Alit o orders Pennsylvania to respond in case asking Supreme Court to halt enforcement of stay-at-home order

Justice Samuel Alito this week ordered the Pennsylvania government to respond to arguments from a variety of Pennsylvanians asking the Supreme Court to halt enforcement of Gov. Tom Wolf's strict stay-at-home order, aimed at fighting the coronavirus, because they say it is unconstitutional.

The Pennsylvanians behind the suit – called petitioners in Supreme Court parlance – are arguing that their rights under the First, Fifth and 14th Amendments have been violated through Wolf's order. The petition lays out a variety of grounds on which it says the order is unconstitutional.

This matters. One SC ruling and the entire sham is blown for the "next round."

Oh thank God and SC Justice Alito. We can't allow this abomination of tyranny to continue and have to stop this from happening unless it really is the Zombie Apocalypse.

a reply to: Justoneman

A lot of influences in that situation, JOM.

One was the emergence of automation and IT. That swept away a LOT of positions at a time when we had more qualified job-seekers than ever. IT also contributes to the "hire young" mentality because those people show up with the desired certifications of knowledge in esoteric badger grooming or whatever. The continual reinvention of programming languages is IMO a gimmick to force out experienced people so that cheaper hires can be brought on board.

Then there was the mass exportation of jobs to other countries, including asinine notions like call centers in India.

At some point, the organization's people became commodities to barter about, and ALL the generations suffered as a consequence.

Cheers

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow


Q Post 4072

BOOM WEEK AHEAD
Treason doesn't pay well in the end.

It happens this week or I will not entertain any more discussion on it. I will just move on to discussions with the astronomy guy about the hoax of man made global warming that ruins economy's and increases draconian laws.

I think this is the Biden set-up:

apple.news...

The Dems are going to try to take the moral high ground on the Biden play. They will remove him and say “Look; we are serious about this, just like we were with Trump. But we removed Biden when you didn’t remove Trump.”

Biden is a patsy. That’s why Obama told him not to run. He knew that the presumptive nominee was going to take one for the team. Assuming Joe got paid a lot to take this humiliation. Definitely leaning that Biden doesn’t make it 30 more days as the nominee.

Cuomo-M. Obama?
M. Obama-Hillary?

a reply to: Justoneman

PC types run the city but outside city limits it's pure America.

Turned out to be the Thunderbirds or blue angels and their escort tankers, flying from DC to Atlanta, according to the google map took them right over town.

www.politico.com...

"The United States has historically been a leader in global vaccine initiatives, often footing much of the bill."

"A spike in hacking attempts on U.S. hospitals and labs, which intelligence and national security officials have attributed primarily to China, is a sign of how high the stakes are for the Chinese government — especially as it attempts to repair its reputation amid accusations that it covered up the origins and severity of the novel coronavirus late last year."

Same old China, always cheating.

www.politico.com...

"“Our internal data shows that Joe Biden’s softness on China is a major vulnerability, among many,” said Trump campaign spokesman Tim Murtaugh, though he declined to release the polling numbers.

There are growing signs Trump’s strategy is working."

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
Far Left Oregon Governor Kate Brown is extending the state’s lockdown until JULY 6th!!!
Executive Order 20-24

The Governor is a complete loon and tyrant!

Time for a challenge to the Constitutionality of these orders. They are clearly lunacy at this point with all we know.

originally posted by: OsirianObsidian

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
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What would have happened if POTUS challenged the COVID-19 narrative from the beginning?
Sometimes you can't TELL the public the truth.
YOU MUST SHOW THEM.
Who benefits the most?
WHY ARE [D]'S SOLELY FOCUSED ON CLOSURE [RETAINING] AND VOTE-BY-MAIL?
They do not care about your well-being.
You are simply in the way.
This is about regaining POWER.
Self-preservation.
Every asset deployed.
Win by any means necessary.
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Looks like it’s death for the Democrats then.

The quarantine has brought into stark relief exactly what their goal is. Trump’s numbers are going up the longer they keep up the charade, because people can see it for what it is.

But those MSNBC, CNN and even Fox polls have Biden way ahead of DJT.

ETA

Probably just as valid as the ones saying HRC in a landslide in '16.