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originally posted by: Byrd
originally posted by: Oleman
"If many medical doctors view quercetin as a better treatment that hydroxychloroquine, why is there almost zero reference to it or discussion about it?"
Because the only doctors advocating for this treatment happen to be doctors who are selling these very pharmaceuticals and vitamins and who don't seem to have any real clinical practice (they're not in hospitals seeing sick and dying patients.)
"Could it be that if the discoveries made in 2012, 2014 and 2016 that zinc ionophores could irradicate all of the nuisance viral diseases was suppressed by the people who's multi $B vaccine businesses (and others) would be destroyed by a cheap OTC suppliment cure?"
A cheap supplement that these people just happen to be selling?
I think the evidence is strongly against it.
Think about it this way -- If it was real, physicians and nurses and health care workers in New York City and other hard hit areas would be scrambling to get their hands on it. They're on the front lines. They've been dying from it.
If it was truly effective, they would be going back to the old practices and wouldn't be worrying about masks and gloves when treating patients.
Check to see what the people in the hospitals are doing and recommending.
originally posted by: elevatedone
**** ATTENTION ****
GET AND STAY ON TOPIC !!!
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originally posted by: tennisdawg
originally posted by: cirrus12
Vaccines will not work. I repeat.... Vaccines will not work. The only thing we can do is a repeating pattern of social distancing, opening back up slowly, shutting down again, social distancing, opening back up slowly, shutting down, etc.
How long can that feasibly go on for? What is the plan after that? Clearly a vaccine is highly unlikely due to the type of virus this is.
Also, there has been a ramping up in the media about the virus originating in the lab, it's discussed more in the mainstream. Relations with China are cooling.
Where do you see this going? Do you still stand by your original posts in previous threads?
Also good to see you back on here!
a reply to: tennisdawg
The strategy that I have described will have to go on until the 3 cycles (minimum) have made their way through the world. In all likelihood, this would be 1.5 years - 2 years. I cannot believe this has become such a politically divided issue. I am stunned at the level of misinformation out there. I am bewildered that the "economy" is more valuable than human lives. I feel like an alien in this world right now.
I stand by all of my posts. Some of the intel was better than others, but I shared what I could when I could. I felt like it was important. Nothing has changed as far as I can tell. Here is what I was told a few weeks ago:
The virus did not accidentally leak from the lab, nor did it come from a wet market near the lab. The virus was created by the USA a few years ago. China stole the virus from the USA utilizing scientists in Canada as the conduit. The USA was aware of this theft at the time, but kept the information to themselves. The virus was taken to the lab in Wuhan for further study and experiments (some of which did include combinations with HIV).
Some of the operatives in the scientific field from the Canada/China connection have been neutralized (murdered/suicided) in the recent months by the CCP.
A third party (likely backed by Russia) came across the information of the Coronavirus theft by China. This third party/deep state purchased a sample of the virus from the CCP utilizing a scientific cover story based on SARS research.
Later, the virus was seeded into a human who knowingly and willingly traveled from Russia to Kazakhstan to Wuhan. This person deliberately spread the virus in local places for over a week in and around the areas near the lab in Wuhan. This was in late October 2019. The wet market was likely a case of local spread after this initial "seed" was done. Thus, all of the confusion and misinformation.
This whole thing was done by the deep state so that the USA would believe that China had accidentally released the virus that they stole from the USA. China of course believes that the USA sent the "seed" into Wuhan as revenge for stealing the virus. The blame game has worked perfectly, while the real culprit is sitting back and watching it all unfold from afar.
None of this matters now. Nothing can be done to put the Genie back in the bottle. I will not devulge my sources, or put my family in danger, but you can read back through my posts to get a general idea of where my information comes from.
Please continue to be smart. Don't let this become a political issue more than it already is. Stay safe everyone. This is only the beginning of the novel. We are barely into the first chapter.
originally posted by: Brick17
a reply to: angelchemuel
Lots of strange decisions (on the face of it) being made. I'm sure you know that here in the UK those mil pers
involved in the testing stations are being issued 'insect' repellant. That in some way mitigates the virus or at least limits (as a barrier?) the chances of contracting the virus.
At work we've been talking about thus. Why the military? Is it to do with all the cavvinatiobs we receive throughout our career? I'm sure there is something in it. This isn't random.
Not involved in MACA so not issued to us.
originally posted by: Byrd
that's why they call the combination of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, in combination with an antibiotic, a "Z-Pack."
originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: Itisnowagain
PM me your address and I'll send one out to you with full instructions.
One of the lesser known oils and Quinessence don't have it
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originally posted by: drussell41
originally posted by: Byrd
that's why they call the combination of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, in combination with an antibiotic, a "Z-Pack."
Are you saying the combination of those three drugs are a z-pack? If not, never mind. If so, that's incorrect. I've had z-packs in the past for bacterial infections. It's simply five or six pills of azythromycin in a small, flat cardboard package with separate spaces for the pills versus a bottle of them. They're called z-packs. Nothing to do with other drugs, and they've been called that for a LONG time before SARS-COV-2 ever arrived.
originally posted by: Fowlerstoad
a reply to: drussell41
Hey, D41 -
A z-pack is just a course of azithromycin, an antibiotic to inhibit bacterial infections (that may also have some cross effect vs. RNA viruses). It is called a z-pack because it comes in a package that meters the dosages by day with instructions to help people take the proper dosage regimen, until it is all gone. You gave a great description of what a z-pack looks like
They chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are a different class of drug entirely like what you said, but, when combined with azithromycin, seem helpful vs COVID-19 anecdotally, and now (slowly) being proven scientifically it seems.