Corona Virus Updates Part 6

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

Id say base the decisions on keeping the medical system as capable as possible, in general. So, try to prevent it from being overwhelmed or from being cut back due to lack of patients, etc. Either one will lead to roughly the same situation.

Our bodies are a crazy collection of trillions upon trillions of things. Have to expect getting sick every once in a while, but there are plenty of things to keep our baseline immune system as healthy as possible from diet and exercise.. to active exposure to beneficial bacteria, viruses, etc.

Just my opinion, of course, but keeping an eagle eye on medical apparatus capability & capacity may be a bit more realistic of a marker than never getting sick.

Its all a tough balancing act, but I suppose that goes for many things in life.

originally posted by: MonkeyBalls2
a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

I added an edit, there are at least 6 countries reporting the same sort of symptoms in children.

My husband read something in the Daily Mail that children are getting hit hard with a new mutation of it. I'd have remove my ad-blocker to see it, and it's not worth it to me. Just wanted to give a heads up if anyone wants to persue it with ads intact.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

The first most important thing you do is look at the big picture... and think for yourself.

For example: twitter.com...

And only .03% of Americans have died from covid-19 and the flu combined.

Source: www.worldometers.info...

Also note that the number of recoveries are rarely mentioned in any news cast.

Yeah i miss AMEDDOC posts, he was really knowledgeable
a reply to: timewarpedbrain7

And a symptom is conjunctivitis also
a reply to: angelchemuel

originally posted by: MonkeyBalls2
From Reuters :

" Three U.S. children infected with the coronavirus are being treated for a rare inflammatory syndrome that appears similar to one that has raised concerns by doctors in Britain, Italy and Spain "

All three - who range in age from 6 months to 8 years - have undergone treatment at Columbia University Medical Center in New York, and all had fever and inflammation of the heart and the gut.

“Right now, we’re at the very beginning of trying to understand what that represents,” Columbia’s Dr. Mark Gorelik told Reuters.

Gorelik, a pediatric rheumatologist and immunologist, said he was called in to consult on the cases to evaluate whether the children have Kawasaki disease, an illness thought to be linked to infection that in severe cases causes inflammation of the arteries of the heart.

More at the link.

edit : More From the Gu ardian Live Feed, at 7pm

Doctors around the world have reported more cases of a rare but potentially lethal inflammatory syndrome in children that appears to be linked to coronavirus infections, Ian Sample and Denis Campbell report.

Nearly 100 cases of the unusual illness have emerged in at least six countries, with doctors in Britain, the US, France, Italy, Spain and Switzerland now reported to be investigating the condition.

The first cases came to light this week when the NHS issued an alert to paediatricians about a number of children admitted to intensive care units with a mix of toxic shock and a condition known as Kawasaki disease, an inflammatory disorder that affects the blood vessel, heart and other organs. So far 19 children have been affected in the UK and none have died.

The French health minister, Olivier Veran, said on Wednesday that the country had more than a dozen children with inflammation around the heart, and while there was insufficient evidence to prove a link with coronavirus, he said the cases were being taken “very seriously.”

Veran told Franceinfo news radio he had received an alert from Paris concerning “about 15 children of all ages”, adding that other cases had been reported in Spain, Italy and Switzerland. He listed the symptoms as fever, digestive problems and vascular inflammation.

Guardian Article on this.

I hate to say it but looks like Covid-19 may act as a cover for Vaccine injures and side effects.

Occurrence of Kawasaki disease after simultaneous immunization

A recent population‐based study has shown that vaccinations did not increase the risk of Kawasaki disease (KD).1 In contrast, various vaccines, including those against rotavirus, hepatitis B, and influenza, have been suggested to be triggers for KD occurrence.2 We report a pediatric case of KD that occurred after simultaneous immunization with measles/rubella, varicella, and pneumococcal vaccine, suggesting that the vaccination is associated with KD.

The science is not settled on vaccines and KD. I hope the experts are considering the vaccine schedule of these children.

If not we gotta be carful believing every combination of symptoms is Covid related.

Kinda sounds like Remdesivir is a flop.

The article is saying it works, kind of. Symptoms shortened to 11 days from 15, and deaths decreased to 8% from 11% in the study.

I guess some help is better than none, but IMHO it is far from what is needed. Definatley not a jump up and down moment.

Remdesivir

What do you want. This is a virus we have no idea about. Progress in any war is worth celebrating. The efforts of those fighting to save even just one life should not be diminished just because it does not fit a unicorn solution that for some reason you and many are looking for. Let’s learn from this an push on

Edit: there is some issue with the quote feature. It dose not separate my response from the quote text. I had to post it above the reply to prompt to separate it. I use my phone to post.

originally posted by: MrRCflying
Kinda sounds like Remdesivir is a flop.

The article is saying it works, kind of. Symptoms shortened to 11 days from 15, and deaths decreased to 8% from 11% in the study.

I guess some help is better than none, but IMHO it is far from what is needed. Definatley not a jump up and down moment.

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In the U.S. (per 1point3acres.com) there have been 1,062,379 individuals who have tested positive for Covid-19.

There has been resolution for 184,361 of them.

122,911 have recovered (2/3) 66.66%
61,450 have died (1/3) 33.33%

It probably is better for MSM to report that only 5.8% of those infected, have passed away, rather than say 2/3's of resolved cases have been positive, and only 1/3 of the resolved cases have passed away.

a reply to: Observationalist


Yes , FEAR The Covid Reaper ! Run for Your Lives FOOLS....................

originally posted by: Observationalist
What do you want. This is a virus we have no idea about. Progress in any war is worth celebrating. The efforts of those fighting to save even just one life should not be diminished just because it does not fit a unicorn solution that for some reason you and many are looking for. Let’s learn from this an push on

originally posted by: MrRCflying
Kinda sounds like Remdesivir is a flop.

The article is saying it works, kind of. Symptoms shortened to 11 days from 15, and deaths decreased to 8% from 11% in the study.

I guess some help is better than none, but IMHO it is far from what is needed. Definatley not a jump up and down moment.

Remdesivir[/q uote]

Well, sure, time to try another med. Last I heard there were dozens that were on the table. Something should work to at least help. It is a step forward, although a small one.

I am not looking for a "unicorn solution", I am not even sure what that means. LOL

I was just pointing out that the results were not all that impressive. If it saves a life, I am all for it. The numbers though could be in the margin of error.

Forward with more testing I guess.

originally posted by: MrRCflying
Kinda sounds like Remdesivir is a flop.

The article is saying it works, kind of. Symptoms shortened to 11 days from 15, and deaths decreased to 8% from 11% in the study.

I guess some help is better than none, but IMHO it is far from what is needed. Definatley not a jump up and down moment.

Remdesivir

It acts like Tamiflu... it doesn't cure but it drastically shortens the hospital stay (severity). That will mean less pressure on hospitals, medical staff, and equipment (average hospital stay is over 10 days.)

It'll shorten the heck out of medical bills!

originally posted by: cirrus12
Yeah i miss AMEDDOC posts, he was really knowledgeable
a reply to: timewarpedbrain7

They really did in all honesty.

Said was working in a lab with the virus, last post I remember was late February.

Just concerned as I recall them mentioning having a family and as said working in labs, was just curious if anyone had seen them somewhere else on site.

Hope is well AMEDDOC

originally posted by: FinallyAwake

originally posted by: buddha
This on Fox news.
ER doctors now [say] 'It's interesting when I'm writing about my death report, I'm being pressured to add COVID. Why is that?

well every one knows now!
lets just hope some thing comes of this.

Playing devils advocate only, here's a link from a disease specialist debunking them;

www.mercurynews.com...

And here's a bit about the guy debunking them;

www.cnbc.com...

That's from cnbc so salt needed. 👍🏻

I wondered when I read the first report by those Bakersfield doctors... there were a number of statements that seemed "off."

As a counterpoint, here's this from the Tampa Bay Sentinel about Florida making the state stop reporting Covid-19 deaths

State officials have stopped releasing the list of coronavirus deaths being compiled by Florida’s medical examiners, which has at times shown a higher death toll than the state’s published count.

The list had previously been released in real time by the state Medical Examiners Commission. But earlier this month, after the Tampa Bay Times reported that the medical examiners’ death count was 10 percent higher than the figure released by the Florida Department of Health, state officials said the list needed to be reviewed and possibly redacted.

They’ve now been withholding it for nine days, without providing any of the information or specifying what they plan to remove.

They cited HIPAA records and confidentiality as the reason they were doing this.

They tried it last month, too.

The agency has attempted at least once to block information about deaths from COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, from becoming public.

Last month, it tried to persuade the medical examiner’s office in Miami-Dade County to restrict access to its death records, according to the Miami Herald and correspondence between the two agencies obtained by the Times.

So Florida numbers should be seen as unreliable at this point.

a reply to: Observationalist

Interestingly, Im seeing more talk about cytokine storm issues again.

Meds that inhibit RdRPs (like Remdesivir) will help early, but places like Cedars-Sinai seem to be having impressive success with their approach. They have several sets of markers to determine which route to take, rather than any general protocol.

Would also explain a lot of the different presentations of the virus & disease.

Issue with any antiviral is that it cant do much once the virus has replicated. But, it seems that Cedars-Sinai might be doing great things even after that early stage.

The Safest Place In The World is South Australia, with no new cases in the past week.

Sounds lovely. I wonder if they'd let me go there for a long vacation.

originally posted by: alphabetaone
Remdesivir does seem to be gaining ground though. Shares in Gilead were up 3% on the news that more than half of 397 patients recovered from serious COVID-19 illness and released.

Their study was single-arm though, so I imagine until there's an actual control group study, we wont know the real story.

Article Here

FYI: China patented Remsvidir, the drug touted by Dr. Fauci today.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Fauci likes the drug patented by China, for treating Covid-19, after China's Wuhan laboratory released the Covid-19 virus, that has infected millions of people world-wide.

I hope President Trump's intel briefings include this information.

Some form of Hydroxychloroquine-based treatment is the safest (and least expensive) way forward. Big pharma and affiliated crooks don't like HCQ, which is a good sign!

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: alphabetaone
Remdesivir does seem to be gaining ground though. Shares in Gilead were up 3% on the news that more than half of 397 patients recovered from serious COVID-19 illness and released.

Their study was single-arm though, so I imagine until there's an actual control group study, we wont know the real story.

Article Here

FYI: China patented Remsvidir, the drug touted by Dr. Fauci today.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

The article (and the headline) says China TRIED to patent it... but was blocked.

On January 21, a patent for commercial use of Remdesivir – a drug initially created by an American pharmaceutical firm to fight ebola – was filed in China.

In other words, they were trying to patent Remdesivir treatments... not Remdesivir itself.


Remdisviir has been around since 2013 or so and was used in the fight against Ebola It was created by an American drug company.

FYI … the concept of Care, We, Must has evolved over time.

originally posted by: carewemust
And only .03% of Americans have died

Oh and also

Ebola[edit]
On 9 October 2015, the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) announced preclinical results that remdesivir had blocked the Ebola virus in Rhesus monkeys. Travis Warren, who has been a USAMRIID principal investigator since 2007, said that the "work is a result of the continuing collaboration between USAMRIID and Gilead Sciences". The "initial screening" of the "Gilead Sciences compound library to find molecules with promising antiviral activity" was performed by scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). As a result of this work, it was recommended that remdesivir "should be further developed as a potential treatment."
Remdesivir was rapidly pushed through clinical trials due to the West African Ebola virus epidemic of 2013–2016, eventually being used in people with the disease. Preliminary results were promising; it was used in the emergency setting during the Kivu Ebola epidemic that started in 2018, along with further clinical trials, until August 2019, when Congolese health officials announced that it was significantly less effective than monoclonal antibody treatments such as mAb114 and REGN-EB3. The trials, however, established its safety profile.

The Real Skinny on Gilead, the company behind Remdesivir

Source: Wikipedia and from NASDAQ

it's an American company, founded by an American (a physician) in 1987, owned and managed by Americans (if anyone asks) It originally focused on cancer treatments but spun that off to focus on antivirals.

Here 's their 10-K filing on NASDAQ

It is and was a leading producer of antivirals, and one of its most important products recently is used to prevent HIV/AIDS.

It does pay dividends, and if you're into stocks this might be a good time to pick up a few shares.

It's a growing company and has (every few years) acquired other companies and their products.

It hasn't been entirely lily white...there's been some questions about drug pricing.