Corona Virus Updates Part 6

originally posted by: Chance321
a reply to: MrRCflying
I didn't see where this magical money is coming from. This is getting crazy. Supply proper protective gear and get people back to work.

The payments would continue for at least six months and would last until unemployment falls to pre-coronavirus levels.

So what is the limit here? twelve months? twenty-four? What if the unemployment never returns to the pre-coronavirus levels? Will the payments continue past that?

Agreed. What happens to a family who makes over that threshold? Let me guess, they get screwed.

a reply to: MrRCflying

6 Months of free money!!! WELL,WELL,WELLL That puts into November and election time just imagine that!!!

I hope my "translating" what the scientific papers say doesn't come across as patronizing. I know it's sometimes hard to read and understand the jargon - but it's something I'm familiar with. I hope it will help people whose first language isn't English (or science.)

a reply to: MrRCflying

The other disturbing fact, is that this major variant was discovered in India.
If there was a melting pot of potential 'victims' that could mutate this even further, or spread the mutated variant, it would be India (After China).

Not exactly a lot of 'washing hands with soap and water' over there.

a reply to: Byrd

My first language is English and believe me i need your translation. So thanks Byrd, keep’em coming!

originally posted by: Gargoyle91
I have heard nothing about the Homeless populations in California or elsewhere It must be spreading like wildfire in their homeless camps .

I've been saying this too. My latest post about the mentally ill was thrown in the trash bin. I even said, OK, no problem. What you mention is this concern: the virus is with us forever and that is a fact and even been stated by govt. officials on TV here in this country. There are two main concerns, one can not track the homeless and the second is the mentally ill homeless or not even homeless who think it is cute to spread the virus. I said you have to .... and of course, the thread went into the trash bin. But that's a fact. The truth can hurt at times, but really, there is no alturnative (sp). The homeless can easily walk into a restaurant and being infected and just start coughing on everyone, the lock downs start all over again. This is what we are talking about here in this country, how do we handle it. I know how the hospital handles such cases here with the mentally deranged infected intentionally infected others.

a reply to: Byrd

I'm an engineer by trade, and scientific parlance can seem like complete bullsh*t to me.
You seem to make it reasonable and readable
keep at it, please.

I've not kept up with what has been happening the last few ways, I did not see this browsing back thru the pages but it is interesting I thought

"Professor Yitzhak Ben Israel of Tel Aviv University, who also serves on the research and development advisory board for Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, plotted the rates of new coronavirus infections of the U.S., U.K., Sweden, Italy, Israel, Switzerland, France, Germany, and Spain. The numbers told a shocking story: irrespective of whether the country quarantined like Israel, or went about business as usual like Sweden, coronavirus peaked and subsided in the exact same way. In the exact, same, way. His graphs show that all countries experienced seemingly identical coronavirus infection patterns, with the number of infected peaking in the sixth week and rapidly subsiding by the eighth week."

Source

a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

1.5 to 2mil I reckon possible deaths by end of year, not 20mil.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Byrd

Interesting we haven't heard from all those people that take silver solutions. Metals might be an interesting way to halt bugs and viruses, as Copper will let a bug live for about five minutes , where a plastic surface just lets it sit indefinitely.

Did you see the Blue man ? I use copper in aquariums for parasites but does nothing for virus's that's a UV thing .

a reply to: Karyotype

If thats based on official numbers, they don't mean much.
Thats only based on tests, and we don't have enough in the world to go around for the living, let alone the dead.

If 'social distancing' is anything to go by, my neighbour had her cousin and his kid over for the Easter weekend, and a couple of joggers from a village at least 2km away came through this evening.

Some people seem to beleive that they are either immune, or it doesn't concern them.
They are the problem right now.

a reply to: MrRCflying

The vaccine talk and focus is suspicious to me. I think a lot of it is done to reduce panic and probably manipulate stock markets. Because based on what i have read a vaccine doesnt seem likely. We all know how slow they are to publicly admit information that we have known for a long time, like asymptomatic spread and it's airborne capabilities.

This link was posted earlier on in these threads talking about it: www.reddit.com...

And this is recent study suggesting antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), which is a part of what makes a vaccine difficult: www.nature.com...

Likewise with mutations, even if it has a slow mutation rate, wouldnt the more people it infects the higher the chance of mutations? Also, are slower mutations or faster mutations better? I can see slower mutations possibly causing the virus to end up with more stable mutations, where the mutations are more likely to end up being more advantageous to the virus than if it mutated faster. Just like with people, when you do something quick the end result is more likely to have errors. So I'm also suspicious of the attempt to frame being "slow to mutate" as something that is an undeniable positive for us.

originally posted by: peter_kandra

originally posted by: Chance321
a reply to: MrRCflying
I didn't see where this magical money is coming from. This is getting crazy. Supply proper protective gear and get people back to work.

The payments would continue for at least six months and would last until unemployment falls to pre-coronavirus levels.

So what is the limit here? twelve months? twenty-four? What if the unemployment never returns to the pre-coronavirus levels? Will the payments continue past that?

Agreed. What happens to a family who makes over that threshold? Let me guess, they get screwed.

If they make $120,000+ and still have their job(s) then they don't need an extra $24,000. How is this getting screwed?

a reply to: FellowHuman

Fast mutation usually means it gets too cocky for itself, and vanishes quickly.
Becomes too deadly, and dies out too fast.
Or becomes weak, and doesn't pose a problem anymore.
Slow mutation means it mutates for a worse variant, not because it has to, but because evolution decides it has to.
thats not good.

Most of the SARS and MERS were too deadly to spread effectively.
the hosts died before they could infect too many people.
This doesn't seem like that.
Frankly, if it wasn't designed in a lab, nature is a very bad mofo, and has us in it's sights.
Prepare for the worst, and all that...

a reply to: Karyotype

I would need to look into that more, but i have my doubts about his interpretation of the data. Though i wouldnt be surprised, because we are in strange times indeed.

But there are a lot of factors to take into considerations, likewise im pretty sure not all countries look the same in terms of their infection patterns, we already know how USA looks different than say South Korea or Taiwan. Also some explanations to the pattern can of course be due to testing, generally speaking i'd expect there to be a pattern to how countries test and then that then leads to the infection patterns. So if you are always testing around a certain amount a day, you'll always end up with around the same amount.

Also some things to note, while sweden doesnt seem to have many mandatory rules, that doesnt mean they arent doing things that would slow the spread: www.theguardian.com...

So 50% of the workforce in sweden is now working from home, among many other things. That will obviously have an effect on how the infection spreads.

a reply to: BPilgrim

I don't know what area you live in, but a 2 income family with kids making over $120K isn't living the high life.

On a related note, how the f is someone collecting unemployment who gets an extra $600 a week even if they don't make that much fair too?

I guess my family's 120K income is good enough to subsidize that though, huh?

It's that time of night again, Numbers update for the USA and elsewhere :











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USA States :









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Financial Times Graphs from John Burn-Murdoch :






For anyone complaining, at least these numbers can't be fudged 'after the fact'.
Stay Safe everyone, and good night.

a reply to: peter_kandra

Well lets see. For starters, if you took the time to read, you'd know a 2 income family would have to make $240,000+ to not qualify.

Secondly, it isn't about living the high life but about covering basic necessities. You think $24,000 is the high life?

It's no skin off your back so why are you complaining? Because it'll add to the national debt that will already never be paid back? It's pretend money anyway. Have some compassion for people who can't afford basic necessities, many at this point through no fault of their own.

I am still working myself and have never been on government assistance.