Corona Virus Updates Part 5

So I looked a bit more into what retroviruses are. Which this new virus is (which from now on i think i will be calling it the Wuhan Coronavirus Because if it is as insidious as it is looking to be to me, a whole lot of people are in big trouble And names, like any symbol, are extremely powerful tools for shaping reality, and one should never give sole authority (or any) of them over to evil. But i digress.

What I found is that there are only 3 retroviruses that currently affect humans, now 4 if we include the Wuhan Coronavirus, which if what i have read is correct, is a retrovirus.

HIV, HTLV1, and HTLV2. All seemingly are only transmitted the same way: blood, sexual fluids, so on. As we know though, the Wuhan Coronavirus seems to be transmitted in much more contagious ways, where it is "airborne," at least most certainly more so than HIV and the others. Reading about retroviruses isnt the most uplifting stuff, but does explain why some "in the know" or who would be privy to classified/secret information, like governments, are themselves not treating it like "the flu."
Here is an article that i read about information of retroviruses: www.healthline.com...

Now this also led me to an older article regarding this Wuhan Virus that i thought gave an interesting take: startupdaemon.net...

Essentially, it was the problem that i was always most concerned about, and that is the long term effects of this virus. And i really do think this is what is being kept hush hush. But we have seen all the stories, of things like infertility and lung damage, and so on. So most certainly if this virus slowly erodes and damages peoples organs, all while seemingly having no symptoms, it aint no joke.

a reply to: ValentineWiggin
Food industry will likely have to start massive new SOP if they want to stay in business.

a reply to: XCrycek

Read that article too just now, and starred you for posting it. Thanks!

I suppose that every individual must decide who to trust. For me personally: lack of evidence isn't strong enough to trust with my life at this early point in the outbreak.

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: JamieJJones

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: MrRCflying
And so it begins with fast food.

Taco Bell plans to do drive through, or delivery only. No more sitting at a cramped booth, scarfing down mystery meat.

Taco Bell

lost my post
dont eat at any fast food restaurants

You can't catch it through food so drivethroughs are safe, unless the one handing you the food over touches your hand and than you touch your face afterwards etc.

I'm sorry what madness are you blathering on about?

If someone preparing the food, or the packaging, or breathing on you or your food at any point haveit, then you've got it too.

Of course you can get it from going through a drivethrough.

You're not a McDonalds franchisee are you?

You can't catch it through your stomach.

"Meanwhile, a rep from Five Guys tells us that the burgers-and-fries chain is carrying out additional cleaning for all "customer touch points" (door handles, condiment tables, and other high-touch surfaces) "

You're not an uneducated yank, are you?

RIIIIGGGHHHTTTT....

So you need to avoid touching your face in case you have the virus on your hands, since it can enter through your mouth, but shovelling a big burger and fries into your face that's been smothered in the virus is okay?

I tell you what, lets test that theory and you can be the test subject.

Some people are so dumb and ill informed it's a struggleto believe they can tie their own shoelaces in a morning.

Or do you have velcro shoes?

originally posted by: Fowlerstoad
a reply to: XCrycek

Read that article too just now, and starred you for posting it. Thanks!

I suppose that every individual must decide who to trust. For me personally: lack of evidence isn't strong enough to trust at this early point in the outbreak.

No worries, didn't aim it at you anyways. The person spread g the crap received 4 stars so far. That's kinda sad. The last thing we need is online "doctors" and "experts" spreading their crap. This thing is bad as it is without their bs

Originally posted these numbers for the US on 3/9.

Calculations for doubling rate is holding about 3 days. I don't think it is because of more testing. We would see a real spike if that were the case.


3/2 about 100 cases
3/5 about 200 cases
3/7 about 400 cases

Projected based on doubling every 3rd day:

3/9 about 800 - Actual just under 800
3/11 or 12 about 1,600 - Actual just over 1,600
3/14 or 15 about 3,200 - Just passed the 3,200 mark looks to hit maybe 3,500 today
3/17 or 18 about 6,400
3/20 or 21 about 12,800
3/23 or 24 about 25,600
3/26 or 27 about 51,200
3/29 or 30 about 102,400

originally posted by: JamieJJones

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: JamieJJones

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: MrRCflying
And so it begins with fast food.

Taco Bell plans to do drive through, or delivery only. No more sitting at a cramped booth, scarfing down mystery meat.

Taco Bell

lost my post
dont eat at any fast food restaurants

You can't catch it through food so drivethroughs are safe, unless the one handing you the food over touches your hand and than you touch your face afterwards etc.

I'm sorry what madness are you blathering on about?

If someone preparing the food, or the packaging, or breathing on you or your food at any point haveit, then you've got it too.

Of course you can get it from going through a drivethrough.

You're not a McDonalds franchisee are you?

You can't catch it through your stomach.

"Meanwhile, a rep from Five Guys tells us that the burgers-and-fries chain is carrying out additional cleaning for all "customer touch points" (door handles, condiment tables, and other high-touch surfaces) "

You're not an uneducated yank, are you?

RIIIIGGGHHHTTTT....

So you need to avoid touching your face in case you have the virus on your hands, since it can enter through your mouth, but shovelling a big burger and fries into your face that's been smothered in the virus is okay?

I tell you what, lets test that theory and you can be the test subject.

AGAIN!!!

No evidence of COVID-19 transmission through food, says EFSA

www.euractiv.com...

Stop spreading bs. The economy is taking enough beating as it is. No need for online "doctors" making bs online diagnosis and injecting more fear

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: JamieJJones

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: JamieJJones

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: MrRCflying
And so it begins with fast food.

Taco Bell plans to do drive through, or delivery only. No more sitting at a cramped booth, scarfing down mystery meat.

Taco Bell

lost my post
dont eat at any fast food restaurants

You can't catch it through food so drivethroughs are safe, unless the one handing you the food over touches your hand and than you touch your face afterwards etc.

I'm sorry what madness are you blathering on about?

If someone preparing the food, or the packaging, or breathing on you or your food at any point haveit, then you've got it too.

Of course you can get it from going through a drivethrough.

You're not a McDonalds franchisee are you?

You can't catch it through your stomach.

"Meanwhile, a rep from Five Guys tells us that the burgers-and-fries chain is carrying out additional cleaning for all "customer touch points" (door handles, condiment tables, and other high-touch surfaces) "

You're not an uneducated yank, are you?

RIIIIGGGHHHTTTT....

So you need to avoid touching your face in case you have the virus on your hands, since it can enter through your mouth, but shovelling a big burger and fries into your face that's been smothered in the virus is okay?

I tell you what, lets test that theory and you can be the test subject.

AGAIN!!!

No evidence of COVID-19 transmission through food, says EFSA

www.euractiv.com...

There's a difference IDIOT between the virus being transmissable through food itself, and being smothered in the virus by those preparing it.

It might not live in a tin of beans, but if someone with the virus coughs on your beans on toast then you're screwed.

originally posted by: JamieJJones

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: JamieJJones

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: JamieJJones

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: MrRCflying
And so it begins with fast food.

Taco Bell plans to do drive through, or delivery only. No more sitting at a cramped booth, scarfing down mystery meat.

Taco Bell

lost my post
dont eat at any fast food restaurants

You can't catch it through food so drivethroughs are safe, unless the one handing you the food over touches your hand and than you touch your face afterwards etc.

I'm sorry what madness are you blathering on about?

If someone preparing the food, or the packaging, or breathing on you or your food at any point haveit, then you've got it too.

Of course you can get it from going through a drivethrough.

You're not a McDonalds franchisee are you?

You can't catch it through your stomach.

"Meanwhile, a rep from Five Guys tells us that the burgers-and-fries chain is carrying out additional cleaning for all "customer touch points" (door handles, condiment tables, and other high-touch surfaces) "

You're not an uneducated yank, are you?

RIIIIGGGHHHTTTT....

So you need to avoid touching your face in case you have the virus on your hands, since it can enter through your mouth, but shovelling a big burger and fries into your face that's been smothered in the virus is okay?

I tell you what, lets test that theory and you can be the test subject.

AGAIN!!!

No evidence of COVID-19 transmission through food, says EFSA

www.euractiv.com...

There's a difference IDIOT between the virus being transmissable through food itself, and being smothered in the virus by those preparing it.

It might not live in a tin of beans, but if someone with the virus coughs on your beans on toast then you're screwed.

You can't catch it through your gut ffs. No evidence for your bs claims what so ever. Credible source gor your claim or just bugger off and stop spreading bs

a reply to: XCrycek

🤦‍♂️ Uh huh. Eating at any restaurant fast or sit down, is a bad idea. Eating food some stranger is making during a global pandemic, is not wise, I am not bothering myself to read a article someone wrote to get clicks on the Internet to substitute my common sense. Oh boy, here we go today.


Sup everyone.

It doesn't matter.

Not arguing anymore

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: JamieJJones

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: JamieJJones

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: JamieJJones

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: MrRCflying
And so it begins with fast food.

Taco Bell plans to do drive through, or delivery only. No more sitting at a cramped booth, scarfing down mystery meat.

Taco Bell

lost my post
dont eat at any fast food restaurants

You can't catch it through food so drivethroughs are safe, unless the one handing you the food over touches your hand and than you touch your face afterwards etc.

I'm sorry what madness are you blathering on about?

If someone preparing the food, or the packaging, or breathing on you or your food at any point haveit, then you've got it too.

Of course you can get it from going through a drivethrough.

You're not a McDonalds franchisee are you?

You can't catch it through your stomach.

"Meanwhile, a rep from Five Guys tells us that the burgers-and-fries chain is carrying out additional cleaning for all "customer touch points" (door handles, condiment tables, and other high-touch surfaces) "

You're not an uneducated yank, are you?

RIIIIGGGHHHTTTT....

So you need to avoid touching your face in case you have the virus on your hands, since it can enter through your mouth, but shovelling a big burger and fries into your face that's been smothered in the virus is okay?

I tell you what, lets test that theory and you can be the test subject.

AGAIN!!!

No evidence of COVID-19 transmission through food, says EFSA

www.euractiv.com...

There's a difference IDIOT between the virus being transmissable through food itself, and being smothered in the virus by those preparing it.

It might not live in a tin of beans, but if someone with the virus coughs on your beans on toast then you're screwed.

You can't catch it through your gut ffs. No evidence for your bs claims what so ever.

Jesus H why did God make such dumb people?

So - you can catch it though breathing it in, through your eyes, through sores in your skin, or through your mouth.

But so long as what is going into your big fat face contains food, then that magically stops you from getting it?

So food is the magic cure.

I know a lot of yanks are ginormous, but there are other structures between your mouth and your gut, even though most things that go in your mouth probably don't even touch the sides.

If you can't grasp the idea that you can catch this through your mouth - hence why respirators cover that big hole in your face - then you're better off keeping it shut.

originally posted by: Bicent
a reply to: XCrycek

🤦‍♂️ Uh huh. Eating at any restaurant fast or sit down, is a bad idea. Eating food some stranger is making during a global pandemic, is not wise, I am not bothering myself to read a article someone wrote to get clicks on the Internet to substitute my common sense. Oh boy, here we go today.


Sup everyone.

Eating at a restaurant is a bad idea because you will be near sick people not because of actual food. It's more about the surfaces. Bigger chance of you getting CoVid while sitting at the table where someone with the virus sat at than getting a burger through drive through at Macdonalds. That's a fact. Nothi g else has been proven so far

What's in the water in West Virginia?



Last state to fall. Hold strong.

Or it's the 6th Great Lake!

originally posted by: liejunkie01

originally posted by: XCrycek
No evidence of COVID-19 transmission through food, says EFSA

www.euractiv.com...

Stop spreading bull#.
We have enough at our hands as it is

From the link in your article.

Reading and comprehension are very important when trying to "educate" people in matters.

Although they caution that “transmission via surfaces which have recently been contaminated with viruses is, nonetheless, possible through smear infections,” they specify that this is only likely to occur “during a short period after contamination, due to the relatively low stability of coronaviruses in the environment”.

SMEAR INFECTIONS

What is smear connection? Read the effiin definition of it
Transmission of pathogens by direct contact with an infected person (direct contact infection) or indirectly by touching contaminated objects (indirect contact infection).

IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN THAT FOOD CONTAMINATES AS OF YET. LINK TO AN EFFIN STUDY WHERE IT SAYS SO. Thank you

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: liejunkie01

originally posted by: XCrycek
No evidence of COVID-19 transmission through food, says EFSA

www.euractiv.com...

Stop spreading bull#.
We have enough at our hands as it is

From the link in your article.

Reading and comprehension are very important when trying to "educate" people in matters.

Although they caution that “transmission via surfaces which have recently been contaminated with viruses is, nonetheless, possible through smear infections,” they specify that this is only likely to occur “during a short period after contamination, due to the relatively low stability of coronaviruses in the environment”.

SMEAR INFECTIONS

What is smear connection? Read the effiin definition of it
Transmission of pathogens by direct contact with an infected person (direct contact infection) or indirectly by touching contaminated objects (indirect contact infection).

IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN THAT FOID CONTAMINATES AS OF YET. LINK TO AN EFFIN STUDY WHERE IT SAYS SO. Thank you

Im Not arguing anymore.

Have a good day.

a reply to: XCrycek

The minimum amount of time it exists outside the body is 2 hours (documented anyway....and no, I'm not looking it up. It was in several of the thousands of posts we have here).

If the clerk has it and transfers it even to the bag--let alone an infected cook transferring to your food by coughing or a filthy hand, etc--you'd be willing to bet your life you can't get it? Feel free, but I wouldn't risk it.

Wow check this story out.

CNN) — A transatlantic cruise ship carrying more than 600 passengers with at least five confirmed coronavirus cases on board is frantically searching for somewhere to dock after it was refused entry at multiple Caribbean ports. British officials have launched an intense diplomatic effort to find a country willing to take the the MS Braemar, which belongs to the British company Fred Olsen Cruise Lines. Twenty passengers and another 20 crew members, including a doctor, are in isolation after displaying influenza-like symptoms while traveling on the the ship.

Coronavirus-hit cruise ship in diplomatic scramble to find somewhere to dock

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: liejunkie01

originally posted by: XCrycek
No evidence of COVID-19 transmission through food, says EFSA

www.euractiv.com...

Stop spreading bull#.
We have enough at our hands as it is

From the link in your article.

Reading and comprehension are very important when trying to "educate" people in matters.

Although they caution that “transmission via surfaces which have recently been contaminated with viruses is, nonetheless, possible through smear infections,” they specify that this is only likely to occur “during a short period after contamination, due to the relatively low stability of coronaviruses in the environment”.

SMEAR INFECTIONS

What is smear connection? Read the effiin definition of it
Transmission of pathogens by direct contact with an infected person (direct contact infection) or indirectly by touching contaminated objects (indirect contact infection).

IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN THAT FOOD CONTAMINATES AS OF YET. LINK TO AN EFFIN STUDY WHERE IT SAYS SO. Thank you

So here we have the answer.

People - make sure you cover yourself in ketchup and fries, fill your respirator filters with burger buns and hot dogs, and presto magico you can't get it.

Because food magically prevents infection.

originally posted by: schmae
a reply to: ValentineWiggin
Food industry will likely have to start massive new SOP if they want to stay in business.

Fairly common in the coastal or storm prone regions of the US carry BIC and interruption insurance. Relatively cheap...but not all policies are built the same....here is a quick read with just to basics..

Most standard commercial property policies include "business income coverage" (so-called "BIC"). For all intents and purposes, BIC responds when a covered "cause of loss" triggers a slowdown or suspension of operations. So, the existence of BIC coverage for a COVID-19 caused slowdown or suspension depends on whether communicable diseases can be characterized as a covered "cause of loss."

Lexoligy

I'm just now leaving Houston, TX, to head back home. We had delivery for lunch....the delivery person stated they were swamped today.

I've never seen the city with almost zero traffic...really an odd feel. Similar to a hurricane making landfall...



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