Corona Virus Updates Part 5

a reply to: Trillium

Self sufficiency and independence are always a good thing.

originally posted by: Argen
a reply to: elitegamer23

I keep thinking of the billions spent on facial recognition and everyone screwing it up with a one dollar mask.

Facial recognition is too old-fashioned, there's a better way... Walk this way.

Gait Analysis - Wikipedia

Gait as biometrics.

Gait has been established as biometrics to recognize people by the way they walk. This advances in gait recognition has therefore led to the development of techniques for forensics use since each person can have a gait defined by unique measurements such as the locations of ankle, knee, and hip.

I wonder how they would account for arthritic pain, leg injuries, ingrown toenails, etc., modifying your gait temporarily. Talk about mistaken identity!

originally posted by: Encia22

originally posted by: Argen
a reply to: elitegamer23

I keep thinking of the billions spent on facial recognition and everyone screwing it up with a one dollar mask.

Facial recognition is too old-fashioned, there's a better way... Walk this way.

Gait Analysis - Wikipedia

Gait as biometrics.

Gait has been established as biometrics to recognize people by the way they walk. This advances in gait recognition has therefore led to the development of techniques for forensics use since each person can have a gait defined by unique measurements such as the locations of ankle, knee, and hip.

I wonder how they would account for arthritic pain, leg injuries, ingrown toenails, etc., modifying your gait temporarily. Talk about mistaken identity!

We all will just start some sort of pimp strut !

a reply to: elitegamer23

The ministry of funny walks....

originally posted by: Argen
a reply to: elitegamer23

I keep thinking of the billions spent on facial recognition and everyone screwing it up with a one dollar mask.

If billions of people are buying one dollar masks, then billions are being spent on the masks. Sure they interfere with facial recognition but a large percentage of the population uses smartphones and they can be (and in some cases are being) tracked using those.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Byrd

Let's hope the hospitals do take it as a wake up call that keeping a LOT more masks in stock when this is over is the new standard.

I have a lot of questions about the "expiration dates" on masks. Apparently millions of masks in a strategic stockpile were kept by Canada and other countries and have expired, and there is some question about whether or not to use the "expired" masks.

Millions of masks stockpiled in Canada's Ontario expired before coronavirus hit

Thirteen years ago, Ontario stockpiled some 55 million N95 masks and other medical equipment after the province bore the brunt of the SARS epidemic in Canada in 2002 and 2003. But provincial officials have confirmed that the masks in the stockpile have passed their expiration date and sidestepped questions about how many masks, including expired ones, remain.

Public health officials have said masks may be less effective beyond the expiration date determined by the manufacturer. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in the past has recommended use of expired masks only under “crisis” shortage situations.

I think US and the EU also had millions of expired masks in strategic reserves, there were 21 million in California alone:
California had 21 million N95 masks stockpiled. All are expired.

So there were strategic reserves beyond what the hospitals normally use, but the masks were expired. I think the first thing to go might be the elastic bands used to secure the masks losing their elasticity, but if those still worked or could be replaced I suspect the masks would still be useful, though I think it probably needs more study.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: elitegamer23
So I just read a story about the lockdown in Wuhan being lifted finally. Good news for the people of Wuhan!!! They deserve the most sunshine possible imo.

The picture that was with the story showed a crowd of residents and all were wearing mask. It’s possible it was just a stock photo added to The story, but it led me to one question I’ve had in the back of my mind since this started .

CNN indicated it was taken April 8. Don't know the terms of the lockdown but there still may be a strong suggestion to wear masks

Is it going to just simply be the new human norm, that we all wear mask? Like you put on your undies and shirt and mask on every morning?

I think that people will feel more free to wear them if they have sensitivities or other problems. I think you're right that it's normalizing the use but I don't see it (at this point) becoming standard wear.

It was very common to see people in Asia wearing mask before this virus . In western societies it was extremely rare .

I think people will consider wearing them more during common flu seasons or the common Coronavirus season in western societies now .

1,892 deaths today in the USA. That is easily 3x more deaths then the peak day for common flu deaths.

On top of that, many coroners around the USA are saying they can’t even verify if someone died of Coronavirus because the test are primarily for the living .

originally posted by: elitegamer23
1,892 deaths today in the USA. That is easily 3x more deaths then the peak day for common flu deaths.

On top of that, many coroners around the USA are saying they can’t even verify if someone died of Coronavirus because the test are primarily for the living .

Worldometers is putting it at 1,970 for the day. Plus I heard about 200 a day are dying at home now, that are not in the official count. So that makes for over 2,000 for the day.

Peak prediction around the 16th is over 3,000 a day. Hopefully the peak drops quickly, that is an awful lot each day.

On a good note, it does seem social distancing is working, without it, peak would be much, much higher.

originally posted by: MrRCflying

originally posted by: elitegamer23
1,892 deaths today in the USA. That is easily 3x more deaths then the peak day for common flu deaths.

On top of that, many coroners around the USA are saying they can’t even verify if someone died of Coronavirus because the test are primarily for the living .

Worldometers is putting it at 1,970 for the day. Plus I heard about 200 a day are dying at home now, that are not in the official count. So that makes for over 2,000 for the day.

Peak prediction around the 16th is over 3,000 a day. Hopefully the peak drops quickly, that is an awful lot each day.

On a good note, it does seem social distancing is working, without it, peak would be much, much higher.

Social distancing is working, but sadly if you look around you , you know people could do a much better job of it . Thankfully a lot of people are taking it serious .

The funny thing is , if the death numbers are much lower than the numbers that were thrown out there , the doubters will say it wasn’t that bad .

They won’t admit that shutting down so much of the nation , schools, business, ect , had a lot to do with the lower death toll, and the flattening of the peak .

a reply to: Arbitrageur

That's because the stock pile was not fulfilling the orders.
should be
Assembly line -> strategic stock pile -> orders

not
Assembly line -> stock-pile --> used only in emergency and thrown away when expired
Assembly line -> orders

Dumb J I T supply lines allows for no stock.
Therefore no resources in surge demand.
Stock piling is only good for manufactures not users. You need to stock pile more than a years worth of strategic stock

All emergency equipment needs to be kept up to date.
Therefore for example masks - 3M supplies to a central warehouse or warehouses large enough for strategic pile. one side in one side out. pallets/containers stored -- FIFO.
Yes everything is doubled handled but fresh stock - do believe we have space and manpower to do this -- Costs less than you're paying for them right now.

All depends on who wants profits and taxes - no taxes on strategic land -- no price increase when increased supply requirement. More workers paid for the double handling - less unemployed , less welfare and more income taxes.


But ventilators and other long life equipment - what is going to happen to the 100,000s no longer required in USA and EU can we pack them up and ship the equipment/temp icu units to 3rd world hospitals for more permanent use?

Or do we do what the Chinese did and scrap the lot?

Numbers for Texas and Dallas

As of 8 p.m. April 6
8,262 coronavirus cases in Texas.
154 reported deaths
1,252 patients are currently hospitalized.

At least 88,649 tests have been run.

So Texas processes about 1,000 tests per day on an average day.

Dallas
Confirmed: 1,261
Deaths: 19


Hundreds of Southwest, American airline employees test positive for COVID-19 This would be from both airports... DFW (which is one of the larger airports in the country) and Love Field (hub of Southwest)

COVID-19 has hit the big county jail It's a very unpleasant place, by the way. I acted as ombudsman for an inmate's family there. Very... grim.

And tragically, a Food Bank employee tested positive

Death rate with chloroquine is the same as death rate without it The paper is in Italian and the study is of 81 cases.

Pastor decides to hold church services, so their landlord (another church) changed the locks

There's been a surge in the number of at home deaths in New York City -- and aren't being counted in COVID death reports

a reply to: MonkeyBalls2

Chainsaws are to be taken seriously. True story. This past year, an acquaintance of mine unwittingly cut into a tree that had grown around a barbed-wire fence (a common thing on farms, around here at least). The saw whipped fragments of barbed-wire back, one of which shot through his eye and brain, causing massive cranial bleeding, which led to a stroke. He was in a coma on life for support for two weeks, then passed. I myself have used chainsaws with no eye protection in the past - never, ever again. Sorry for the cross-talk. Thanks for posting the daily numbers here.

Update Apr.07/20
Wuhan Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Global Cases (by JHU CSSE)

gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com...#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Canada *** Total= 17,897 ***
9,340-Quebec, 4,726-Ontario, 1,291-British Columbia, 1,373-Alberta,
260-Saskatchewan, 217-Manitoba, 13-Grand Princess, 105-New Brunswick,
228-Newfoundland & Labrador, 310-Nova Scotia 22-Prince Edward Island,
4-Northwest Territories, 6-Yukon

coronavirus.1point3acres.com... USA & Canada Updates

www.worldometers.info...

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: Argen
a reply to: elitegamer23

I keep thinking of the billions spent on facial recognition and everyone screwing it up with a one dollar mask.

If billions of people are buying one dollar masks, then billions are being spent on the masks. Sure they interfere with facial recognition but a large percentage of the population uses smartphones and they can be (and in some cases are being) tracked using those.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Byrd

Let's hope the hospitals do take it as a wake up call that keeping a LOT more masks in stock when this is over is the new standard.

I have a lot of questions about the "expiration dates" on masks. Apparently millions of masks in a strategic stockpile were kept by Canada and other countries and have expired, and there is some question about whether or not to use the "expired" masks.

Millions of masks stockpiled in Canada's Ontario expired before coronavirus hit

Thirteen years ago, Ontario stockpiled some 55 million N95 masks and other medical equipment after the province bore the brunt of the SARS epidemic in Canada in 2002 and 2003. But provincial officials have confirmed that the masks in the stockpile have passed their expiration date and sidestepped questions about how many masks, including expired ones, remain.

Public health officials have said masks may be less effective beyond the expiration date determined by the manufacturer. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in the past has recommended use of expired masks only under “crisis” shortage situations.

I think US and the EU also had millions of expired masks in strategic reserves, there were 21 million in California alone:
California had 21 million N95 masks stockpiled. All are expired.

So there were strategic reserves beyond what the hospitals normally use, but the masks were expired. I think the first thing to go might be the elastic bands used to secure the masks losing their elasticity, but if those still worked or could be replaced I suspect the masks would still be useful, though I think it probably needs more study.

So, with an expired N95 mask or respirator, what exactly degrades in such a mask that would make it less capable of doing the job it is designed to do?

a reply to: Rich Z

N95 masks really don't expire in terms of their functionality. The only part that is subject to damage over time are the elastic bands that attach the mask to the user's face, which can be damaged by sunlight

If the masks are stored in a dark, dry place, they should be OK to use, even when expired.
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Hey mate I thought Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine was used to transport the
zinc to the right place...that was mentioned being important & now all we hear
it seems to be just trying to treat with chloroquine & not seeing any zinc any more
in the mix...what happened?

I always appreciate your post!
Cheers
Ektar

Does this include covid19? www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Steer the immune system to fight the flu and it takes away the immune system's ability to fight the coronavirus and Rhinovirus infections?

a reply to: Rich Z

It's not the mask part but the elastic that holds it on your head. It degrades and has to be replaced.

a reply to: Ektar

Its not hard to guess.

originally posted by: rickymouse
Does this include covid19? www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Steer the immune system to fight the flu and it takes away the immune system's ability to fight the coronavirus and Rhinovirus infections?

I scanned some of the papers citing that one since the study was in 2012 and a small number of participants. It was not a robust finding and other papers (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...) indicate that vaccines seem to improve the resistance to other types of respiratory illnesses.

See also www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

...and other papers that cite the one you linked to: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...