Corona Virus Updates Part 5

originally posted by: ManyMasks
a reply to: ManyMasks

I have been warned but not for this..... Strange why they allowed me to insert this picture.

Without a mod taking it down, it's because that's how they deceive.

This site is a spook fest, f king minions will feel my wrath, I fKing promise.... I set the wolf on BJ.

I kid u not

Why would they take it down? If you view the image at source the caption clearly stated they’re practising. This may involve the use of “mannequins”, or medical dummies used for CPR training, transport protocol training, that kind of thing - The kind of thing depicted in the image.

originally posted by: Fowlerstoad
a reply to: Mamana12
That is a pretty astute observation. I would think that New Yorkers would be good identifying siren sounds in the same way a person living in the woodlands would be good at identifying bird songs.

That's their environment.

Yes, but add in the mass hysteria surrounding this debacle, combined with the silent/empty streets due to the shut/lockdowns, and people stuck in t heir homes with nothing better to do than ... listen to the sirens...

It is safe to assume that even those 'astute New Yorkers' could easily mistake normal emergency activity for something more.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: Hecate666
Let me know if you can find an example of a flu season that directly killed hundreds of doctors, nurses, and paramedics.

Where's the list of hundreds of doctors, nurses and paramedics?

Here is something...

So... one - that is a whopping ONE - emergency room Doctor in the USA - who wasn't even tested, so it is just ass-u-me-d that he died of COVID-19.

66 in Italy, but there was thread recently stating that many of those weren't even practicing (were much older and retired)...

So, lets put this down to just more fear-mongering.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: FinallyAwake
a reply to: Hecate666
So you're saying that more people died in the whole of 2017, than they have so far this year by CV?

No, Hecate is saying that more people died during the 2017/18 flu season - you know, the period of November 2017 to about March or April of 2018 - that season... about the same amount of time we've been dealing with COVID-19.

November to April is the peak time for flu. It's contagious all year round.

So was he posting the peak numbers? Or for the year?

Eta never mind, I overlooked the word season.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: butcherguy
One of our customers at the company I work for is a local hospital. I found out that their IT Department head has died from the coronavirus. He was 40 years of age and had no underlying health conditions.

Absence of symptoms does not equal 'no underlying health conditions'.

The truth is, the vast majority of people in America and other first world countries are just barely over that line of showing no overt symptoms - but are, in fact, obese, pre-diabetic and pre-a-host-of-other-underlying-conditions. A heart - or virus - attack stat waiting to happen.

So it kills normal people that aren't at risk of dying anytime soon.

originally posted by: butcherguy
So it kills normal people that aren't at risk of dying anytime soon.

If you equate 'a heart attack waiting to happen' to 'not anytime soon', maybe...

Or you could look at it through the reality lens...

It is natures way of culling the weak from the herd.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: butcherguy
So it kills normal people that aren't at risk of dying anytime soon.

If you equate 'a heart attack waiting to happen' to 'not anytime soon', maybe...

Or you could look at it through the reality lens...

It is natures way of culling the weak from the herd.

The guy works for a hospital.
He may have been a 'heart attack waiting to happen', or he could have been a healthy 40 year old guy that takes advantage of the health related perks available to him on the hospital main campus where he works.
I have his coworker telling me that he had no underlying health issues.
You have a supposition with no data to back it up at all.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: butcherguy
So it kills normal people that aren't at risk of dying anytime soon.

If you equate 'a heart attack waiting to happen' to 'not anytime soon', maybe...

Or you could look at it through the reality lens...

It is natures way of culling the weak from the herd.

The guy works for a hospital.
He may have been a 'heart attack waiting to happen', or he could have been a healthy 40 year old guy that takes advantage of the health related perks available to him on the hospital main campus where he works.
I have his coworker telling me that he had no underlying health issues.
You have a supposition with no data to back it up at all.

Don't feed the troll. He has a lot of "ideas", and nothing to back any of them up.

a reply to: ComebackLogic

They won't take it down, because it fits their narrative..... Owe el,,,, oops I meant o well.

Michigan lawmakers want to extend the state of emergency 70 days.

www.wsjm.com...

originally posted by: ManyMasks
a reply to: ComebackLogic

They won't take it down, because it fits their narrative..... Owe el,,,, oops I meant o well.

Since you obviously must have missed it when a different poster explained your image here is the link again: www.dvidshub.net...

"NEW YORK (March 31, 2020) - US Navy Sailors practice patient transfer from the pier onto the hospital ship USNS Comfort (T-AH 20) as they prepare to admit patients in support of the nation’s COVID-19 response efforts. "

originally posted by: mikell
Michigan lawmakers want to extend the state of emergency 70 days.

www.wsjm.com...

Maybe I am just a little too hopeful, but I think the outlook is going to change and the emergency will not need to last that long.

a reply to: tanstaafl

No data?

Correct.
You have no data that is specific to this individual.

It is common knowledge that most people are very unhealthy

I'd argue against that if even if you hadn't said 'very'.

Oh - and the coworker telling you this person had no underlying health issues? That is what is referred to as opinion.

Which is much more than you have.
I have the opinion of someone that knew and worked with the man.

You are the guy that likes to post this word, 'assume'.

You are assuming that this person was unhealthy.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: butcherguy
One of our customers at the company I work for is a local hospital. I found out that their IT Department head has died from the coronavirus. He was 40 years of age and had no underlying health conditions.

Absence of symptoms does not equal 'no underlying health conditions'.

The truth is, the vast majority of people in America and other first world countries are just barely over that line of showing no overt symptoms - but are, in fact, obese, pre-diabetic and pre-a-host-of-other-underlying-conditions. A heart - or virus - attack stat waiting to happen.

So it kills normal people that aren't at risk of dying anytime soon.

I do not want this anywhere near anyone after looking at the long list of effects it really scares me. So far anyone of any age with no health conditions may develop severe health effects which may kill them or anyone who comes into contact with them at any time.

Well I have been wondering about the various effects of the virus on people.
If there are more effects of corvid 19 please share.
I don't know what the chances are of the various effects.
Also many have no effects at all and are asymptomatic yet spread the virus.
Please note various sources from different doctors were used to compile the list.
I do not know if any of the effects are true and do not want to fear monger just information I came across.
A search using one of the symptoms below combined with corvid 19 can get people more information if they are interested.
Truly frightening list of effects of corvid 19 here's what I could find:

death
reinfection risk(when antibodies are low it may come back)
lost sense of smell and taste
seizures
Syncope (fainting or passing out)
fever
dry cough
fatigue/tiredness
phlegm production
shortness of breath
sore throat
headache
myalgia or arthralgia (pain in a muscle or group of muscles or joints)
chills
nausea
vomiting
nasal congestion
bronchitis
diarrhea
lack of oxygen into your system
inflammation in the body
myocarditis heart inflammation which can lead to the weakening of the heart muscle
Damages heart (cardiac arrest/ heart failure)
hemoptysis (coughing up of blood.)
conjunctival congestion (also known as pink eye)
respiratory failure
septic shock (life-threatening low blood pressure develops when body has an overwhelming response to infection)
multiple organ dysfunction
multiple organ failure
blood clotting
autoimmune disease (immune system mistakenly attacks your body)
immune system hyperactivity triggers a "cytokine storm" an overproduction of immune cells
create cytokines chemicals that cause small blood vessels to leak making hemorrhages
viral infection
influenza infection
Pneumonia (Bacteria, viruses, and fungi causes inflammation in your lungs)
Lung damage
Damage kidneys (possible failure)
Damages the brain (possible brain damage)
brain disease
brain cell death
brain swelling
mental confusion
brain dysfunction
Encephalopathy (confused and not acting like you usually do)
breakdown of the blood-brain barrier
orchitis (an inflammation of the testicles)
reduce a man’s sperm count and possibly lead to infertility
Both Covid-19 invade cells Ace2, in the testicles, as well as in other organs like the kidneys and heart

Here's NY's numbers. Nice little jump since last night. We are at 138836:
www.worldometers.info...

Found a Michigan State Police Map Link

Its set up just like John Hopkins map. You can Look by county too.

Michigan State Police COVID Map

Today has been Britain's darkest day yet in its coronavirus crisis with 786 more fatalities confirmed in the past 24 hours, taking the total death toll to 6,159 victims. A 23-year-old who had no other known health problems was among those who have died, as well as hundreds of others aged up to 102. In total, 29 people did not have any long-term illnesses before they caught COVID-19. NHS England confirmed 758 people have died in its hospitals, with authorities in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland announcing a further 28 between them. When counted individually, the four countries have announced 854 deaths today - 758 in England, 74 in Scotland, 19 in Wales, three in Northern Ireland - but the Department of Health's 5pm cutoff means the official round-up is lower.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

London again recorded the most COVID-19 deaths of any region in Britain today, with 224 more people succumbing to the coronavirus. But other areas of England are being badly affected, too, with Scotland, Wales and and Northern Ireland combined recording fewer deaths (96) than the Midlands (142) or the East of England (101). In the North West 90 new fatalities were put on record today, along with 88 in the North East & Yorkshire, 77 in the South East and 36 in the South West.

Numbers from around the world are now starting to come in for April 7th.

Spain
Pop: 44.6 M
140,511 Positive tests…….. or 1 out of 332 Spaniards
9.89% Deaths

Italy
Pop: 60.4 M
135,586 Positive tests….. or 1 out of 446 Italians
12.63 % Deaths

US
Pop: 330 M
378,455 Positive tests.... or 1 out of 872 Americans
3.11% Deaths

US death rates (2017):
1. Heart Disease …………….…………647,457 annual or 1,773 daily average
2. Cancer ……………………..……….….599,108 annual or 1,641 daily average
5. Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases):146,383 annual or 401 daily average
6. Alzheimer’s disease:……..……….121,404 annual or 332 daily average
8. Influenza and Pneumonia …………55,562 annual or 152 daily average
X. Auto accidents ………………….………37,461 annual or 102 daily average
X. H1N1 2009 ESTIMATED (8,868 – 18,306) for 1 year or 24 – 50 daily average
COVID-19 ………………………………………. 11,772 (35 Day) or 336 daily average

BBC has an excellent article on why coronavirus rates vary

The tl;dr is "the way we count leads to inaccuracies". But it's more complex than that. You can even see the issue here in the US, where different methods of counting lead to different results in each state because of lack of national coordination.