Corona Virus Updates Part 5

Hows it going everyone? We lost anyone yet? Here in the UK, still rising.

UK's coronavirus death toll jumps by 113 to 578 in biggest daily rise yet as officials confirm 2,100 more cases of the killer infection with almost 12,000 Brits known to have been struck down

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Britain's growing coronavirus death toll today jumped to 578 after 113 more fatalities were confirmed across the home nations, making today the UK's darkest day yet in the escalating outbreak. Health officials also more than 2,100 new patients had tested positive for the life-threatening infection, meaning almost 12,000 cases of COVID-19 have now been recorded in Britain. It comes after the UK yesterday posted 43 coronavirus deaths, sparking hope that Prime Minister Boris Johnson's unprecedented lockdown was working to control the ever-worsening crisis. But officials changed the timings of how they counted deaths, with yesterday's total only taking into account an eight-hour period. Today's shocking figure represents a full 24-hour count. The daily death count is not only a count from overnight - the toll can include fatalities hospitals have only just processed, for example patients whose post-mortems have just come back. Government scientists have admitted there is likely to be 1,000 infected patients for every death recorded in Britain - suggesting the true toll is in the region of 600,000.

My daughter's high school is 3D printing 4,500 face shield headbands for use by local health care facilities.

Go Pueo! (owls)

Italy and /usa to go above China's amount of cases tmrw.

Is that as was predicted or sooner than was predicted??

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

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See the info on Anandtech Here

Up to 1.5 ExaFlop of crunching power at peak.
Only 430,000 GPU's though, and there must be more than that.
Spread the word.

Has anyone else seen or posted this yet -

www.dailywire.com...

Some good news for a change! Or just a sign we have been hoodwinked for some elites LARP party...

Well there goes my County 2 cases in Winchester Indiana Randolph County 2 Fire fighters ...

originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
Has anyone else seen or posted this yet -

www.dailywire.com...

Some good news for a change! Or just a sign we have been hoodwinked for some elites LARP party...

The New Scientist article is also useful.

Cheers for the info.

originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
Has anyone else seen or posted this yet -

www.dailywire.com...

Some good news for a change! Or just a sign we have been hoodwinked for some elites LARP party...

The same revision to his US prediction would yield 88,000 US deaths from COVID. That's slightly higher than 2017-2018's 80,000 American deaths due to influenza, which was a 40 year high.

This is an aggressive flu and we're allowing ourselves to be played in it's name.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
Has anyone else seen or posted this yet -

www.dailywire.com...

Some good news for a change! Or just a sign we have been hoodwinked for some elites LARP party...

The same revision to his US prediction would yield 88,000 US deaths from COVID. That's slightly higher than 2017-2018's 80,000 American deaths due to influenza, which was a 40 year high.

This is an aggressive flu and we're allowing ourselves to be played in it's name.

I'm not going to be jumping for joy just yet.
If there are two variants to this Virus, one much more potent than the other, it could just be that the mild one is running its course.
I'd rather wait a bit, and get some more Clinical info on the strains affecting the population.
At least he admitted he was wrong, and off by a large factor (500,000 compared to 20,000).
I'd be really happy if he's right.

a reply to: MonkeyBalls2

If this is true,then why are Spain and Italy struggling so much, I'm sure Italy has more ICU beds than the UK. Why is the Excell centre being turned into a giant hospital and why are retired NHS staff returning?

I do think only 20000 will die in the UK, but I think the numbers will be over the next couple of months putting severe strain on the hospitals.

originally posted by: MonkeyBalls2

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
Has anyone else seen or posted this yet -

www.dailywire.com...

Some good news for a change! Or just a sign we have been hoodwinked for some elites LARP party...

The same revision to his US prediction would yield 88,000 US deaths from COVID. That's slightly higher than 2017-2018's 80,000 American deaths due to influenza, which was a 40 year high.

This is an aggressive flu and we're allowing ourselves to be played in it's name.

I'm not going to be jumping for joy just yet.
If there are two variants to this Virus, one much more potent than the other, it could just be that the mild one is running its course.
I'd rather wait a bit, and get some more Clinical info on the strains affecting the population.
At least he admitted he was wrong, and off by a large factor (500,000 compared to 20,000).
I'd be really happy if he's right.

Look man, I think your position is actually what ALL of us need to embrace, but running in either direction. I agree with you, no reason to "jump for joy" yet, but by the same token all of the doom and gloom and pessimism is equally misplaced and over reactionary. WE HAVE NO EFFING CLUE how this is ultimately going to play out and that's why I'm vehemently opposed to these reactions. We should be responding to reality, not responding to fears of what could be approaching.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: MonkeyBalls2

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
Has anyone else seen or posted this yet -

www.dailywire.com...

Some good news for a change! Or just a sign we have been hoodwinked for some elites LARP party...

The same revision to his US prediction would yield 88,000 US deaths from COVID. That's slightly higher than 2017-2018's 80,000 American deaths due to influenza, which was a 40 year high.

This is an aggressive flu and we're allowing ourselves to be played in it's name.

I'm not going to be jumping for joy just yet.
If there are two variants to this Virus, one much more potent than the other, it could just be that the mild one is running its course.
I'd rather wait a bit, and get some more Clinical info on the strains affecting the population.
At least he admitted he was wrong, and off by a large factor (500,000 compared to 20,000).
I'd be really happy if he's right.

Look man, I think your position is actually what ALL of us need to embrace, but running in either direction. I agree with you, no reason to "jump for joy" yet, but by the same token all of the doom and gloom and pessimism is equally misplaced and over reactionary. WE HAVE NO EFFING CLUE how this is ultimately going to play out and that's why I'm vehemently opposed to these reactions. We should be responding to reality, not responding to fears of what could be approaching.

According to the article, those initial numbers were if we did nothing. He revised the numbers, taking into account the lockdowns. I would think if anything, it is showing the lockdowns are working. Which is a good thing. Still not just an aggressive flu. All we have to do is wait and see where it goes. I think the lockdowns are going to help.

Interesting that he himself has become infected.

originally posted by: DAZ21
a reply to: MonkeyBalls2

If this is true,then why are Spain and Italy struggling so much, I'm sure Italy has more ICU beds than the UK. Why is the Excell centre being turned into a giant hospital and why are retired NHS staff returning?

I do think only 20000 will die in the UK, but I think the numbers will be over the next couple of months putting severe strain on the hospitals.

It's very difficult to work out isn't it?

I think we were all guilty of calling China a dictatorship that lied, and yet our own governments are clearly doing the same things, they can lie and tell the truth at the same time - by only testing a small number of people they can truthfully say "only X thousand confirmed cases" while knowing the true numbers are much higher.

But then you have to think if the true numbers of cases are far higher, and they're being truthful about the deaths, then the death rate must be very low.

Unless they're lying about the death rates too, and not counting all deaths as CV deaths.

I did some work for a funeral director here in the UK a while back, and while we were working out how effective his website was he had a list of all of the deaths in the region per month, and how mny funerals they'd done.

So I guess the acid test regarding deaths would be to get hold of (if they're still being published) the deaths per month in each region.

If they've gone up sharply then that would be suspcious, if they haven't then the death rate from covid must be low.

In which case what is really going on?

I can't get hold of those numbers any more, the guy I was dealing with has been off ill for a year - but maybe someone somewhere can get hold of them?

I think that's the only way to know?

EDIT: Here it is: deaths englnd wales

The average numbers of deaths week by week over the last 5 years, vs numbers this year - this year looks lower than the previous 5 year average.

Very odd.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: MonkeyBalls2

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
Has anyone else seen or posted this yet -

www.dailywire.com...

Some good news for a change! Or just a sign we have been hoodwinked for some elites LARP party...

The same revision to his US prediction would yield 88,000 US deaths from COVID. That's slightly higher than 2017-2018's 80,000 American deaths due to influenza, which was a 40 year high.

This is an aggressive flu and we're allowing ourselves to be played in it's name.

I'm not going to be jumping for joy just yet.
If there are two variants to this Virus, one much more potent than the other, it could just be that the mild one is running its course.
I'd rather wait a bit, and get some more Clinical info on the strains affecting the population.
At least he admitted he was wrong, and off by a large factor (500,000 compared to 20,000).
I'd be really happy if he's right.

Look man, I think your position is actually what ALL of us need to embrace, but running in either direction. I agree with you, no reason to "jump for joy" yet, but by the same token all of the doom and gloom and pessimism is equally misplaced and over reactionary. WE HAVE NO EFFING CLUE how this is ultimately going to play out and that's why I'm vehemently opposed to these reactions. We should be responding to reality, not responding to fears of what could be approaching.

I agree with you.
I'm just not sure we know fully what 'Reality' is yet.
We have no clue how its going to play out.
Money can be sorted, Jobs can be found again, we can't yet ressurect the dead.

We're on a Razors Edge, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Its up to our Leaders to make that choice, thats why they're paid so much, and are voted in (or out).

edit : For some reason I now have the intro to AC/DC's 'Thunderstruck" in my head now....

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
Has anyone else seen or posted this yet -

www.dailywire.com...

Some good news for a change! Or just a sign we have been hoodwinked for some elites LARP party...

The same revision to his US prediction would yield 88,000 US deaths from COVID. That's slightly higher than 2017-2018's 80,000 American deaths due to influenza, which was a 40 year high.

This is an aggressive flu and we're allowing ourselves to be played in it's name.

My guess is those 80.000 that die from influenza are treated with the best care possible and in the end we can accept a little easier if their time had come. According to those doctors in Spain and Italy it is kind of hard to know that you could have saved lives but instead have to take away the oxygen and start with painkillers and holding hands to make the transition easier...

Peace

originally posted by: ValentineWiggin
Does anyone know if you had H1N1 if it gives you any kind of immunity to this?

It does not.

One of the first deaths in Virginia from coronavirus was a 66-year-old Christian “musical evangelist” who fell ill while on a trip to New Orleans with his wife. As the Friendly Atheist’s Hemant Mehta points out, Landon Spradlin had previously shared opinions that the pandemic was the result of “mass hysteria” from the media.

On March 13, Spradlin shared a misleading meme that compared coronavirus deaths to swine flu deaths and suggested the media is using the pandemic to hurt Trump. In the comments, Spradlin acknowledged that the outbreak is a “real issue,” but added that he believes “the media is pumping out fear and doing more harm than good”

“It will come and it will go,” he wrote.

That same say, he shared a post from another pastor that told the story of a missionary in South Africa who “protected” himself from the bubonic plague with the “Spirit of God.”

“As long as I walk in the light of that law [of the Spirit of life], no germ will attach itself to me,” read a quote from the post.

www.rawstory.com...
www.godanriver.com...

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
Has anyone else seen or posted this yet -

www.dailywire.com...

Some good news for a change! Or just a sign we have been hoodwinked for some elites LARP party...

The same revision to his US prediction would yield 88,000 US deaths from COVID. That's slightly higher than 2017-2018's 80,000 American deaths due to influenza, which was a 40 year high.

This is an aggressive flu and we're allowing ourselves to be played in it's name.

Yeah you need to be careful with that, he is now predicting 20,000 deaths instead of 500,000.... WITH all social distancing and lockdowns being observed. The reason being they think the r0 could be 3 rather than 2.5 (what a difference that makes by the way) which would mean many more people are already infected than they had originally modelled for.

The estimate for deaths WITHOUT social distancing or lockdowns was 2.2m (out of a country of roughly 60m) just from the disease, not taking into account the health service falling into disarray and other related deaths from that.

This still isn't something to be taken lightly but this new report suggests that it can be minimised down to a really bad flu season (on top of the usual flu season) rather than a society changing epidemic.

originally posted by: MrRCflying

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: MonkeyBalls2

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
Has anyone else seen or posted this yet -

www.dailywire.com...

Some good news for a change! Or just a sign we have been hoodwinked for some elites LARP party...

The same revision to his US prediction would yield 88,000 US deaths from COVID. That's slightly higher than 2017-2018's 80,000 American deaths due to influenza, which was a 40 year high.

This is an aggressive flu and we're allowing ourselves to be played in it's name.

I'm not going to be jumping for joy just yet.
If there are two variants to this Virus, one much more potent than the other, it could just be that the mild one is running its course.
I'd rather wait a bit, and get some more Clinical info on the strains affecting the population.
At least he admitted he was wrong, and off by a large factor (500,000 compared to 20,000).
I'd be really happy if he's right.

Look man, I think your position is actually what ALL of us need to embrace, but running in either direction. I agree with you, no reason to "jump for joy" yet, but by the same token all of the doom and gloom and pessimism is equally misplaced and over reactionary. WE HAVE NO EFFING CLUE how this is ultimately going to play out and that's why I'm vehemently opposed to these reactions. We should be responding to reality, not responding to fears of what could be approaching.

According to the article, those initial numbers were if we did nothing. He revised the numbers, taking into account the lockdowns. I would think if anything, it is showing the lockdowns are working. Which is a good thing. Still not just an aggressive flu. All we have to do is wait and see where it goes. I think the lockdowns are going to help.

Interesting that he himself has become infected.

Ehhh... not exactly.

Ferguson is presenting drastically downgraded estimates, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured.

It reads more likely that their initial model expected this to be a lot more deadly than it is proving to be, and now that they realize a LOT more people have it and the hospitalization rates they predicted with even fewer anticipated infected in their models versus the actual hospitalizations presently seen with a much higher number of infected his team is realizing this is very virulent but nowhere near as lethal as the initial model presumed.

a reply to: Dem0nc1eaner

Ferguson is presenting drastically downgraded estimates, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured.

The fact that he's admitting a lot more people have the virus and is still downgrading his estimates of lethality by a factor of 25 seems to indicate the social distancing and lockdowns are a non-factor in the presently revised model, ya?