Corona Virus Updates Part 5

Another interesting thing I've just read, one of his friends has just been recalled back to the army, he's been left 5 years!!!
How long after you leave can they recall you?

a reply to: Furryhobnob

Is he possibly a doctor or other kind of military specialist with skills that could be of use?

One issue that has not been addressed and is so important for so many people. My partner is on a couple of meds. He can only get refills for one month at a time for one.
I have been trying to get his meds refilled and this is horrible. I keep having to go to the pharmacy to try and pick it up but the Drs office has not called them back to approve the refill. Obviously they are swamped. The pharmacy is swamped and cannot answer the incoming phone calls so there I am constantly being exposed.
Meanwhile the Dr office doesn't want anyone to come.
This is absolute B.S.
We have been held in this hostage situation and it just adds to the anxiety. It is time that this over controlling of the pharmacy and the patients by the medical cartel is broken.
I am upset.

a reply to: Furryhobnob

I think 6 years is the max here in the states but most do 2-4 years of inactive service. No one is being recalled here but they will sometimes do this with critical jobs and give a nice bonus.

originally posted by: Thoughtful1
One issue that has not been addressed and is so important for so many people. My partner is on a couple of meds. He can only get refills for one month at a time for one.
I have been trying to get his meds refilled and this is horrible. I keep having to go to the pharmacy to try and pick it up but the Drs office has not called them back to approve the refill. Obviously they are swamped. The pharmacy is swamped and cannot answer the incoming phone calls so there I am constantly being exposed.
Meanwhile the Dr office doesn't want anyone to come.
This is absolute B.S.
We have been held in this hostage situation and it just adds to the anxiety. It is time that this over controlling of the pharmacy and the patients by the medical cartel is broken.
I am upset.

Where do you live? In NYS here. My son has a sinus infection, and was diagnosed over the phone. Called in a script and I was able to get it.

My mother got 3 months of pills, but my insurance will only cover 1 month at a time. I need 2 BP meds, and an anxiety med each day. So I am kind of worried that in a month I will not be able to get it either.

a reply to: MissBeck

On Wednesday, only the drive-thru of the branch at 19th Street and Sangamon Avenue is open because of staffing constraints. PNC said it's working to set up temporary staff to allow re-opening of other area branches "in the coming days".

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He didn't say, just said he's been recalled.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Furryhobnob

Is he possibly a doctor or other kind of military specialist with skills that could be of use?

I was listening to a dean of a medical school being interviewed during a radio show. He mentioned a couple of statistics which I believe came from their modeling the virus. As a general rule, he said for every death there are about 800 people infected. He used the phase tsunami wave to describe a sudden influx of people into the healthcare system. The death rate during a tsunami is about 5%. If the tsunami wave can be held back, the death rate is around 1%.

Coronavirus lives for hours in air particles and days on surfaces, new US study shows

Researchers found the virus was detectable in aerosols for up to three hours, up to four hours on copper and up to 24 hours on carboard.

COVID-19 can also last up to three days on plastic and stainless steel, the scientists concluded.

The results suggest “that people may acquire the virus through the air and after touching contaminated objects,” Dr. Neeltje van Doremalen, a scientist from NIH and a lead researcher on the study, said in a press release announcing the findings Tuesday evening.

The new coronavirus can survive for several hours in air particles and last days on surfaces, according to a new federally funded study published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Researchers from the National Institutes of Health, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, UCLA and Princeton University examined how long COVID-19 survives in the air as well as on copper, cardboard, plastic and stainless steel and then compared it with SARS,

originally posted by: Furryhobnob
Another interesting thing I've just read, one of his friends has just been recalled back to the army, he's been left 5 years!!!
How long after you leave can they recall you?

Had a quick google for you. This briefing says:

On leaving full time service personnel are transferred into the reserves which usually lasts for six years. The army has the right to call up reservists for any reason for up to sixteen days in the year. All three forces may call up reserves for longer periods during emergencies, or when the Defence Secretary judges there is a national need.

Terms of Service in the UK Armed Forces

US - Canada Border - Border to close to non-essential traffic; freight transportation not affected.

Incident: Transportation, Border Closure
Severity: Severe
Confirmation: Multiple
Source: Other Government

Location:
Multiple Locations
US - Canada Border, MI
United States

Occurred: 10:11 EDT 03/18/2020
Updated: 10:13 EDT 03/18/2020

Description:
US President Donald Trump has announced that the US and Canadian governments will be cooperating to temporarily close the border between the two countries to "non-essential" traffic in an effort to slow the spread of Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19). Freight transportation between the two countries will not be stopped. The exact type of travel that will be considered non-essential and the anticipated duration of the border closure have not been immediately detailed.

US-Candian border CLOSED

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a reply to: ShortBus

The UK approach, or "let it burn through quickly" approach, may work (MAY... though doubtful), but at huge social cost and only in the context of a globally strong economy to recover within.

When the rest of the world economy is also trying to recover, and fundamentally losing 20% of it's value, much harder for a country to recover from such a time-condensed tragedy.

What we should be doing globally is shutting down EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE immediately for 2 weeks, minimum. We should have done this 6 weeks ago.

Reasoning:

• This thing has an asymptomatic period, so people are walking around infecting and being infected unknown
  
• The unknown is what causes panic and leads to worse situations
  
• It looks likely that everyone who can, will get this thing at some point in the next 3 or so years
  
• In the last 6 weeks we have lost at least 15% of the global economy (and still falling); even if everything got better now, it is still going to take us a decade to recover from this!

So we have to remove the unknown... it's the core of the problem.

If we had shut down 6 weeks ago (we could still shut down right now), and accepted a 2 week stop and global hit to the economy, then we:

• Could spend two weeks figuring out who actually has this thing
  
• Avoid the current situation of panic buying, because we would have never got here
  
• Spend that two weeks figuring out how to work isolated from each other (24 hour office hours, shifted small team work working from home except for needed office interaction, many offices already do this type of work, our shift to completely from home, with the occasional individual in the office to keep computers running took half a day)
  
• For industries that have to be out and interact, reduced social interaction due to everyone else being home, and much easier to track any potential outbreaks in a reduced interacting population
  
• Restaurants, bars, entertainment etc. could be stimulated to deliver all of our work and entertainment needs in an isolated society (generating jobs for those out of work from the current global shifts)... concerts in front of apartment blocks... cafes and restaurants delivering cups of coffee for a dollar, but in much greater volumes, leaving collectibles outside so no interaction... so many potential awesome solutions!!!!... i could keep going all day!...
  
• Start to model how the known (now that everyone is isolated) impact of a changed social structure will have to work for the next few years, as we figure out who has it
  
• Start modelling the economic impact, but rather than as we are now where we are guessing what it may look like in months, there is some solid basis for the figures... we know when we can start sending people back to work over the weeks as we figure it out... could have "paused" business that have now already failed...
  
• Would have fundamentally lost a lot less of the economy immediately, and more businesses would survive more long term
  
• Restart society a few weeks later, with lots of opportunity in the changed world for new business models, for the coming few years... it can almost be fun as we have shift our social paradigms.
  
• At the end of the 2 weeks we could be re-opening society, in a slightly different organizational arrangement, figured out while isolated (ie. jobs and things for people to do rather than sitting there panicking)... with a planned minimal impact to our lives, economy and society.

We all have skills that still need to be utilised... farmers still have just harvested a crop, delivery drivers still own a truck and want to deliver things, architectural technologists still need computers and networks to help the optimization of buildings and heading towards smart cities, travel agents who know the world better than anyone else need to arrange our holidays, teachers need to teach, accountants need to count... and on and on...

There is still enough resource, in a sense always enough resource, in the world for everyone... it just shifts and gets blocked in times like this... it's fundamentally just an organisational problem... the question is, how quickly can we re-organise... well, pretty much everything by the looks of things, pandemic's a bitch huh... so as to have the least impact on the world.

This is the quick condensed version... ;-)

Edit to Add:
Best global 2 week stimulus package:

• Free Netflix subscription for everyone!
  
• Free Lean Cuisine meals delivered for everyone!
  
• Free personal testing kit for everyone!
  

Just want to update you all:

Please do not come to Japan.

Level 2 warning from the USA embassy

Please don't come here.

a reply to: musicismagic

I'm still surprised it's not worse there. Major cities in the US have empty shelves in the grocery stores and it seems to be escalating much faster here.

For the attention of UK contributors. I don't know what you think, but I noticed a lot of UK people here.
I've started a UK specific thread here>>> UK CORONA COVID19 UPDATES THREAD

I don't want to discourage adding to this thread, but as there seem a lot of UK folks here, and information specific to the UK can get lost, I thought it'd be useful to get it in one place. A bit like musicismagics posts, it will be a place for more local "word on the street" type information, and updates from on the ground in local areas.

If this is unuseful, then the thread will live or die on that. But I will try and keep that thread open in a new tab along side this one. Hope to see you there.

If you check in, maybe just start with a hi and your general location (county/region). No need to be specific. Or keep it to yourself... up to you!

Cheers all.


NOTICE :APPARENTLY THE THREAD IS CLOSED FOR REVIEW. I'd say I am a little disappointed by this. World information can confuse the local understanding, and many people make updates without being specific on location. I'll update if mods re-enable it. :/

a reply to: MissBeck

Wow, hope you are both ok

originally posted by: pasiphae
a reply to: musicismagic

I'm still surprised it's not worse there. Major cities in the US have empty shelves in the grocery stores and it seems to be escalating much faster here.

Here there is no panic.
Our grocery stores are full
No on is hoarding
Very peaceful
by we shut down our company today
no income no coming in
we will manage though
I think Americans don't really know the impact what they will soon be facing in about 3 days from now

Aggressive testing helps Italian town cut new coronavirus cases to zero

An infection control experiment that was rolled out in a small Italian community at the start of Europe’s coronavirus crisis has stopped all new infections in the town that was at the centre of the country’s outbreak.

Through testing and retesting of all 3,300 inhabitants of the town of Vò, near Venice, regardless of whether they were exhibiting symptoms, and rigorous quarantining of their contacts once infection was confirmed, health authorities have been able to completely stop the spread of the illness there.

“Our key message is: test, test, test,” Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO chief, said on Monday.

The first testing round, carried out on the town’s entire population in late February, found 3 per cent of the population infected, though half of the carriers had no symptoms. After isolating all those infected, the second testing round about 10 days later showed the infection rate had dropped to 0.3 per cent.

Importantly, however, this second round identified at least six individuals who had the virus but no symptoms, meaning they could be quarantined. “If they hadn’t been identified, the infection would have resumed,” explained Prof Crisanti.

originally posted by: pasiphae

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite

originally posted by: MrRCflying

originally posted by: Chance321
Not a good start to the morning. Seems NY is up to 1708.

New York, US Confirmed: 1,708 Deaths: 16 Recovered: 0 Active: 1,692

We've got our first case of the virus here in my county, Oneida.

UTICA, N.Y. – Oneida County Executive Anthony Picente has confirmed one person in Oneida County has tested positive for coronavirus. Picente says the person recently traveled internationally and has been quarantined at home since March 13, after returning from abroad on March 12, at which time they were symptomatic. They have not required hospitalization. The county is not releasing the name, age, gender or location of the individual at this time, nor the country from which they had just returned. While in quarantine, they are working to help the county health department identify people with whom they've come into contact since arriving back in the county. The county executive says this is the beginning. "We're gonna have more cases," says Oneida County Executive, Anthony Picente, Jr. "You're looking at the next three months being the most severe." Still, Picente says he does not foresee any further restrictions to daily life in the near future. "I don't have any intent on my state of emergeny to do that at this time or have not received any other orders or direction from the state," says Picente. "Unless something else changes in the guidelines, I don't see any of that in the immediate future." At a 3pm briefing Tuesday, Picente said he's suspending all county early intervention and pre-school-related services effective Friday, March 20th, at 5pm. The county is restricting visitors, requiring a sign-in and only allowing those with emergency or essential needs to enter the county building. Realizing that many might feel helpless, overwhelmed and really want to help, the county has set up a volunteer website, at [email protected]. Help is needed, with things like bringing food and medicine to seniors, and answering helpline phones. According to the New York Department of Health, there are 1374 positive coronavirus cases across the state. The highest concentration is in New York City, with 644 cases. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention there are 3,487 cases in the country, and 68 reported deaths.

No confirmed cases here in Steuben county, but I am sure it is here by now. There still seems to be a lack of proper testing. I don't think the local hospitals even have any tests.

Stay safe, and stay in if you can.

Just went to the supermarket this morning to top up so we can manage for 3 months. Used mask and rubber gloves. Thought better go now and rather in a months time when so many more infections.

As we arrived at the supermarket car park the Civil Guardia where checking people. Was told that only 1 person can travel in a car and go to the supermarket which was news to me. He said that if caught tomorrow out with 2 people in car then 600 euros fine.

Only the wife was allowed in the store. She managed to stock up good getting somethings we did not already have and extra. There was no rice or pasta and many other things were low. We stocked up on cereals like weatabix.

Spain numbers rising here now like Italy. 13910+ infected and 623 dead. Could be 30000 here in the next week or two.

Hopefully not be out again now for a long while.

Be safe.

Where are you located? Curious where the rule is about one person in the car or you get a fine.

Costa Blanca Spain