Corona Virus Updates Part 4

a reply to: Agit8dChop

Pulmonary fibrosis associated with connective tissue and autoimmune diseases

www.blf.org.uk...

It was once thought that the condition was caused by inflammation. Now scientists believe that there is an abnormal healing process in the lungs that leads to scarring. The formation of significant lung scarring eventually becomes pulmonary fibrosis

www.healthline.com...

The lack of data on the HIV "like" immune damage is telling.

a reply to: slatesteam

The article describes an 85 year old male, admitted after having a stroke and in critical condition during his treatment in hospital.
Not even close to being the average case
Small areas of lung scarring typically aren't serious. They don't usually affect quality of life or life expectancy.

a reply to: all2human

It's amazing how people are overreacting. I noticed this week that people are not flushing public toilets. They think the handle carries CoronaVirus, lol.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: all2human

It's amazing how people are overreacting. I noticed this week that people are not flushing public toilets. They think the handle carries CoronaVirus, lol.

Well it can, its already been proven in anal swabs of patients testing positive

I dunno if with all this information if you just have a case of Normalcy bias or?

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: all2human

It's amazing how people are overreacting. I noticed this week that people are not flushing public toilets. They think the handle carries CoronaVirus, lol.

I dont know what is more disturbing, people not flushing toilets, or you studying people in the public bathrooms to see what their habits are?

Do those people usually flush regularly?

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: all2human

It's amazing how people are overreacting. I noticed this week that people are not flushing public toilets. They think the handle carries CoronaVirus, lol.

So true !

originally posted by: 1point92AU

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: all2human

It's amazing how people are overreacting. I noticed this week that people are not flushing public toilets. They think the handle carries CoronaVirus, lol.

So true !

Its not true, you literally can get it from flushing handles

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: 1point92AU

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: all2human

It's amazing how people are overreacting. I noticed this week that people are not flushing public toilets. They think the handle carries CoronaVirus, lol.

So true !

Its not true, you literally can get it from flushing handles

Trolls are not to be fed..

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: 1point92AU

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: all2human

It's amazing how people are overreacting. I noticed this week that people are not flushing public toilets. They think the handle carries CoronaVirus, lol.

So true !

Its not true, you literally can get it from flushing handles

Oh really? Be sure to point to the studies that validate your claim. I'll post one here that refutes yours:

"Some coronaviruses can live on surfaces for days,but not much is known about the new coronavirus' ability to survive on surfaces."

Source: www.livescience.com...

Don't let facts get in the way of your hyperventilating fear mongering.

originally posted by: MonkeyBalls2

originally posted by: celltypespecific
Not to scare anyone but this is an academic report.....

"The influence of COVID-19 on the human body is like a combination of SARS and AIDS as it damages both the lungs and immune systems," Peng Zhiyong, director of the intensive care unit of the Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University in Wuhan, told the Global Times on Friday.

www.globaltimes.cn...

You drown in your own mucus.
Not much a person at home can do.
What about sleeping face down, tilted to the face, shouldn't the mucus be expunged naturally by gravity, and leave some of the lungs free of mucus to breathe ?

Yeah, I have always had sinus drainage, and worried about that crap draining into my lungs while I sleep. Often have wondered if sleeping with my head and upper body hanging off of the bed might help. Probably is a good reason somewhere about why not to do that, however....

originally posted by: 1point92AU

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: 1point92AU

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: all2human

It's amazing how people are overreacting. I noticed this week that people are not flushing public toilets. They think the handle carries CoronaVirus, lol.

So true !

Its not true, you literally can get it from flushing handles

Oh really? Be sure to point to the studies that validate your claim. I'll post one here that refutes yours:

"Some coronaviruses can live on surfaces for days,but not much is known about the new coronavirus' ability to survive on surfaces."

Source: www.livescience.com...

Don't let facts get in the way of your hyperventilating fear mongering.

From your article

But how long can the new coronavirus linger on surfaces, anyway? The short answer is, we don't know. But if this new coronavirus resembles other human coronaviruses, such as its "cousins" that cause SARS and MERS, it can stay on surfaces — such as metal, glass or plastic — for as long as nine days, according to a new study. (In comparison, flu viruses can last on surfaces for only about 48 hours.)

“On copper and steel it’s pretty typical, it’s pretty much about two hours,” CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield told U.S. lawmakers on Thursday, referring to how long the new coronavirus may be active on those types of materials."

www.reuters.com...

a reply to: celltypespecific

That makes sense if there are lots of "unconfirmed" cases that are not used in the Ro calculation.

a reply to: 1point92AU

• Human coronaviruses in general are known to persist on inanimate surfaces such as metal, glass or plastic for up to 9 days (5).

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5. Kampf G, Todt D, Pfaender S, Steinmann E. Persistence of coronaviruses on inanimate surfaces and its inactivation with biocidal agents. J Hosp Infect. 2020;Feb 6. Pii:s0195-6701(20)30046-3. doi:10.1016/j.jhin.2020.01.022 [epub ahead of print]

Laboratory biosafety guidance related to coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19): interim guidance, 12 February 2020(direct .pdf link)

And

Evidence of clusters of infected family members and medical workers confirmed the presence of human-to-human transmission (12) by droplets, contact and fomite (26-27).

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26. Guan WJ, Ni ZY, Hu Y et al. Clinical characteristics of 2019 novel coronavirus infection in China. medRxiv preprint first posted online Feb. 9, 2020. doi: dx.doi.org... Accessed February 13, 2020. Google Scholar

27. Zhou P, Yang XL, Wang XG et al. A pneumonia outbreak associated with a new coronavirus of probable bat origin. Nature. 2020 Feb 3. doi: 10.1038/s41586-020-2012-7. [Epub ahead of print] Crossref, Google Scholar

emphasis mine

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19): A Perspective from China

And with regards to viral transmission in general:

Coronavirus Hospitals (23), apartment (62) Phones, doorknobs, computer mouse, toilet handles (23), latex gloves, sponges (68)

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23. Dowell, S. F., J. M. Simmerman, D. D. Erdman, J. W. Juinn-Shyan, A. Chaovavanich, M. Javadi, J. Y. Yang, L. J. Anderson, S. Tong, and M. S. Ho. 2004. Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus on hospital surfaces. Clin. Infect. Dis. 39:652-657. [PubMed] [Google Scholar]

Significance of Fomites in the Spread of Respiratory and Enteric Viral Disease

fomites
Pronunciation /ˈfōməˌtēz/ /ˈfoʊməˌtiz/
plural noun
Medicine

Objects or materials which are likely to carry infection, such as clothes, utensils, and furniture.

Lexico

originally posted by: celltypespecific
??!!??

Hey, do you blame him? He's got stock investments to protect. Panic will devalue those.

Update Mar. 4/20 - 11pm EST
Wuhan Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Global Cases (by JHU CSSE)
gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com...#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Canada
20-Toronto,Ont., 13-British Columbia, 1-London,Ont. 1-Quebec =34
Cruise Ship 43-Canadians are currently infected -- Total 34+43=77
www.canada.ca... nuary-4-2018/canadas-pandemic-plan.html

Mar. 04/30 - A 13th presumptive case of novel coronavirus has been identified in B.C. The patient is a woman in her 80s who is in critical condition at Vancouver General Hospital.
Provincial health officer Dr. Bonnie Henry said the woman had recently returned from travel in India and Hong Kong, and officials are investigating where she might have been exposed to the COVID-19 virus.
www.cbc.ca...

Mar. 01/20 - 4 more confirm + 20 Canada = Total 24
Mar. 02/20 - 3 more confirm + 24 Canada = Total 27
Mar. 03/20 - 6 more confirm + 27 Canada = Total 33
Mar. 04/20 - 1 more confirm + 33 Canada = Total 34

Feb. 27/20 - 131 more confirm + 139 Iran = Total 270
Feb. 28/20 - 118 more confirm + 270 Iran = Total 388
Feb. 29/20 - 205 more confirm + 388 Iran = Total 593
Mar. 1/20 - 385 more confirm + 593 Iran = Total 978
Mar. 2/20 - 523 more confirm + 978 Iran = Total 1,501
Mar. 3/20 - 835 more confirm + 1,501 Iran = Total 2,336
Mar. 4/20 - 586 more confirm + 2,336 Iran = Total 2,922

Feb. 25/20 - 93 more confirm + 229 Italy = Total 322
Feb. 26/20 - 131 more confirm + 322 Italy = Total 453
Feb. 27/20 - 202 more confirm + 453 Italy = Total 655
Feb. 28/20 - 234 more confirm + 655 Italy = Total 889
Feb. 29/20 - 239 more confirm + 889 Italy = Total 1,128
Mar. 1/20 - 566 more confirm + 1,128 Italy = Total 1,694
Mar. 2/20 - 342 more confirm + 1,694 Italy = Total 2,036
Mar. 3/20 - 466 more confirm + 2,036 Italy = Total 2,502
Mar. 4/20 - 586 more confirm + 2,502 Italy = Total 3,089

Feb. 25/20 - 253 more confirm + 893 South Korea = Total 1,146
Feb. 26/20 - 449 more confirm + 1,146 South Korea = Total 1,595
Feb. 27/20 - 427 more confirm + 1,595 South Korea = Total 2,022
Feb. 28/20 - 909 more confirm + 2,022 South Korea = Total 2,931
Feb. 29/20 - 595 more confirm + 2,931 South Korea = Total 3,526
Mar. 1/20 - 686 more confirm + 3,526 South Korea = Total 4,212
Mar. 2/20 - 600 more confirm + 4,212 South Korea = Total 4,812
Mar. 3/20 - 516 more confirm + 4,812 South Korea = Total 5,328
Mar. 4/20 - 438 more confirm + 5,328 South Korea = Total 5,766

beta.ctvnews.ca...

JHU press release about the development of the dashboard:
hub.jhu.edu...

Save this Preparedness and Response Plan offline
www.hopkins-cepar.org...
Also
www.who.int...

a reply to: clay2 baraka

Spin however you need to justify your fear mongering.