Church of Christ Shooting: 2 Dead, 1 Critical In White Settlement, Texas

a reply to: DBCowboy

It’s not just the left, but all that want us left defenseless that cheer the loudest. They will even cry the shooter was denied due process without a thought that the shooter had already denied it to others.

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: DBCowboy

It’s not just the left, but all that want us left defenseless that cheer the loudest. They will even cry the shooter was denied due process without a thought that the shooter had already denied it to others.

This is one of my favorite things, when someone talks about how these shooters are "executed" without due process. Usually only when they are black or Muslim though, you never hear that talk about white shooters.

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: CthruU

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Sillyolme
Well its been two weeks right?

abcnews.go.com...

Roughly every fifteen days now.

But this American carnage ends right here and ends right now..... sure it does.

I'm assuming you are for getting rid of all those nasty gun thingeys and then everything will be fine.

Then every Christian, then every Jew...

You know, those religious radicals.

Then a little bit of a purge (For America!!!) to get rid of those who don't think like the left...

Then those that are left will just settle in comfortably and just be proud to be part of the 4th Reich.

/facepalm

To the OP, sad that there are crazies out there.

Too bad there are gun-free zones where this can happen.

Christians don't kill people, but guns do (once more).

A gun is an inanimate object.

So no, guns don't kill people.

Hard to get into a serious conversation with someone who can't comprehend that.

Christians kill people all the time, actually... although the motive is generally not their religion.

Exactly, and hows the irony - the purp was shot and killed by the parishioner in his church.

Thoust shall not kill. Clear to see that parishioner takes his religion seriously.

Was not a parishioner, was armed security, there were armed parishioners..I imagine one of them would of gotten the shooter eventually

Wilson was identified as one of the two church members who, within six seconds, helped take down the shooter during Sunday service.

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: CthruU

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Sillyolme
Well its been two weeks right?

abcnews.go.com...

Roughly every fifteen days now.

But this American carnage ends right here and ends right now..... sure it does.

I'm assuming you are for getting rid of all those nasty gun thingeys and then everything will be fine.

Then every Christian, then every Jew...

You know, those religious radicals.

Then a little bit of a purge (For America!!!) to get rid of those who don't think like the left...

Then those that are left will just settle in comfortably and just be proud to be part of the 4th Reich.

/facepalm

To the OP, sad that there are crazies out there.

Too bad there are gun-free zones where this can happen.

Christians don't kill people, but guns do (once more).

A gun is an inanimate object.

So no, guns don't kill people.

Hard to get into a serious conversation with someone who can't comprehend that.

Christians kill people all the time, actually... although the motive is generally not their religion.

Exactly, and hows the irony - the purp was shot and killed by the parishioner in his church.

Thoust shall not kill. Clear to see that parishioner takes his religion seriously.

Was not a parishioner, was armed security, there were armed parishioners..I imagine one of them would of gotten the shooter eventually

Wilson was identified as one of the two church members who, within six seconds, helped take down the shooter during Sunday service.

The "he wasn't a church member" narrative is all they have at this point. And playing up the fact that he was ex-FBI. Anything to avoid admitting armed citizens stop mass shootings, which is absolute verified fact.

a reply to: carewemust

There is a Tweet today of a couple of Orthodox Jews open carrying in New York with a caption wondering if they'll be arrested since it's not legal in the state.

Thousand's of Christians poured accolades upon the man who shot dead a
gunman inside a Texas Church.

After reading Fox's Book of Martyrs, it's apparent their understanding
of Christ teaching concerning retaliation vs turning the other cheek
is not a modern day practice.

I can just imagine if Christians came under mass persecution
as those recorded in Fox's book, they would seek to defend
themselves by killing their persecutors first.

The disconnect is incredible.

Does no one recall Sutherland Springs?

Yes, this was tragic because two died although one was the shooter who certainly would have killed more had he been able to, but no one had their weapons at Sutherland Springs and the killer there moved methodically up and down killing at will.

26 at Sutherland Springs with 20 wounded ... all victims vs. 2 ... 2 in this shooting.

Yes, anyone dead is too many, but I am thinking allowing people to be armed and to arm in their defense by hiring a security guard lessened the death toll here by a considerable margin. If it turns out this guy had his gun illegally as is often the case with these things, then there is very little argument left. Lives were saved.

originally posted by: MrBlaq
Thousand's of Christians poured accolades upon the man who shot dead a
gunman inside a Texas Church.

After reading Fox's Book of Martyrs, it's apparent their understanding
of Christ teaching concerning retaliation vs turning the other cheek
is not a modern day practice.

I can just imagine if Christians came under mass persecution
as those recorded in Fox's book, they would seek to defend
themselves by killing their persecutors first.

The disconnect is incredible.

You're right. The disconnect in your post is incredible.

You are talking about pre-emptively killing instead of simply defending. In this case, the persecutor was there, in the very aisles targeting them so they defended themselves. There was little doubt what he was there to do.

You talk about killing the persecutors first as if we are looking for them before they even think to come seeking us with intent to murder.

a reply to: ketsuko

Your response simply indicates you fail to understand
Christ teachings concerning retaliation.

If you choose to own weapons for self-defense
that's your prerogative. There are dozens of
underground Churches in China and Saudi Arabia,
who's members have suffered incredible suffering.

I've yet to hear of any of them advocating self-defense.
Nor did thousands during the reformation, many of which
were burned at the stake.

Self-defense is the anti-thesis of self-denial, which is
the very premise of Christ teachings.

Under the same circumstances, I probably would
have reacted like those in the Texas Church who
did the shooting.

But that does not negate the fact they were not
following Christ teachings. Modern day society is
just more proof we're more in league with Satanic
forces then we even realize.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: LookingForABetterLife

I was talking about normally these things all have their own threads. I looked for it last night, but didn't start my own.

I couldn't believe there wasn't one. Usually ATS is all over a mass attack.

Do you think the police just chose some random guy who lives on the street for the Jewish attack? The guy looked like he didn't know why he was in handcuffs!

I'm just going to put this out there. This pretty much stated my opinion on this matter.

A college professor, an avowed Atheist, was teaching his class. He shocked several of his students when he flatly stated he was going to prove there was no God.

Addressing the ceiling he shouted: "God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you 15 minutes!" The lecture room fell silent. You could have heard a pin fall.

Ten minutes went by. Again he taunted God, saying, "Here I am, God. I'm still waiting."

His count-down got down to the last couple of minutes when a Marine - just released from active duty and newly registered in the class - walked up to the professor, hit him full force in the face, and sent him tumbling from his lofty platform. The professor was out cold!

At first, the students were shocked and babbled in confusion. The young Marine took a seat in the front row and sat silent. The class fell silent...waiting.

Eventually, the professor came to, shaken he looked at the young Marine in the front row. When the professor regained his senses and could speak he asked: "What's the matter with you? Why did you do that?"

"God was busy. He sent me."

a reply to: MrBlaq

You have yet to hear from them because China chooses what you will hear. They don't have concentration camps for their religious adherents, either. And they certainly aren't rewriting the Bible, too.

China doesn't let much of anything resembling the truth leave its borders, and then it has to survive the screening process of our own media. How interested do you think they are in anything to do with religious persecution, especially where Christians are concerned?

Do not be deceived. The God of the Old Testament is still the same God of the New Testament.

a reply to: MrBlaq

I've yet to hear of any of them advocating self-defense.

I already linked to the Vatican teaching that defending and protecting the innocent from an aggressor is not only a right, but a duty of those charged to do so.

So what else ya got?

a reply to: ketsuko

Just one question. Try not to respond without actually taking time to
give it some serious thought.

Right after Flavius Valerius Constantinus issued his spurious unbilical
edict. From that time and well past the reformation, millions of
Christians were persecuted. To the extent those who refused the
edict, were burned alive, and even their babies were tossed into the fire.


Why did these Christians not take any means to defend themselves?

Maybe, just maybe they were faithful to Christ teachings?
Which states "When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another"
- Matthew 10:23 Under persecution, the only prescription they
advocated and followed, was to run. And ran they did, from
township to township and many hiding in caves.

In today's vernacular, Christ would have taught, stand your ground,
Like Clint Eastwood, pull out your 44 magnum and "make my day".

Tries not to laugh.

a reply to: Shamrock6

I'm referring to Christians. Anyone that's accomplished
a modicum of research understands the Vatican is not
a Christian organization.

a reply to: JIMC5499

a reply to: MrBlaq

Anyone who’s accomplished a modicum of research understands that Catholicism is recognized as one of the three main branches of Christianity. Claiming otherwise is nothing more than an invincible ignorance fallacy.

In any event, here are some other groups who explain that Jesus didn’t mean suffering violence for the sake of it but rather not responding to insults with further insult.

Regardless of your personal beliefs causing you to casually dismiss an entire branch of Christianity as not Christian, you claimed Christians don’t advocate self-defense and many of them do exactly that.

1 shot. Boom!! Headshot!!

gg rtl Evil

This evildoer was ventilated with a single round to the head from about 25’. Well done.

Over the past 10 years, have more mass shootings occurred in states where it's easy to get guns or where it's hard to get guns?

a reply to: carewemust

Evil’s frag rate is higher in the “tough gun laws” states.

Evil tends to get taken out quickly or avoids, in the conceal/carry states.