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originally posted by: Pearj
Everyone's memory is fallible.. ..but we aren't talking about fleeting events. We're talking about things we studied (Jadians map skills, my Coke label, etc). We're talking about things we see, hear and do everyday. We're talking about the box we saw on the counter while our Moms made Thanksgiving dinner, every single year and on occasion outside the holiday, until we were older - then we went to the store and bought the same brand, and did the same thing with our kids.
That's not memory - that's knowledge. The dismissiveness you display indicates you wouldn't be surprised if you forgot how to tie your shoes, or how to get to work everyday.
I've been dealing with people telling me I think I'm perfect since I started making threads here - they insinuate it as fact - but I have NEVER said my memory was perfect - ever. I've tried to explain to them that I'm talking about knowledge - not memory, yet the same put-down appears in every thread despite my best efforts...
..I eventually stopped responding to that stuff and started focusing my effort on documenting what I know and reaching those that are curious about it. I suppose that pisses off the naysayers (they get cranky fast) - but I can only repeat myself so much.. ..if they don't understand via all the different ways I've tried to explain what I'm saying - then I can't help - I have to count it as a loss, and move on. I know I tried hard, and that's good enough for me.
Something has changed in the way people deal with problems, and I'm fascinated by it.
originally posted by: Nothin
a reply to: BlackProject
Maybe yes. Maybe no. Maybe: who can truly know?
What checks and balances do you use, to make sure that your ideas, are not using these mental shortcuts?
In one 2013 study at the University of California, Irvine, two groups of subjects were assembled, those with normal memories and another group of people with “highly superior autobiographical memory” (HSAM). These are people with uncanny memories who remember dates and event associations way beyond most of us. No matter, though: Testing revealed they produced just as many false memories as normal people. The researchers used the Deese–Roediger–McDermott (DRM) paradigm. In DRM, subjects are presented with a list of 12 “lure” words that make them think of another word that isn’t on the list. For example, it could be a dozen words like “bed,” “rest,” “pillow,” “blanket,” “dream,” and so on. Subjects, when quizzed on what words they’ve been shown, will remember seeing the word “sleep” as well. In fact, all of the test subjects in the UC Irvine experiments did. DRM-type lures can also make people falsely remember details in photos that aren’t there.
originally posted by: UnverifiedUser0000
Are you sure? We just made some of this the other week, we've always used that brand.
originally posted by: UnverifiedUser0000
We just made some of this the other week, we've always used that brand.
originally posted by: CynConcepts
Admittedly, I thought this had to be a joke...sadly, my memory has been Stouffer's Stove Top Stuffing too. I even recall the commercial! Sheesh...it is a wee bit crazy how so many could misremember the exact same details! The only other ME I misremembered was the Berenstein Bears.
So I asked myself what is the origin of these names...Stouffer is of German origin and Berenstein turns out to be Jewish in origin. I am just sharing since I find it interesting that the two names I misremember, collectively with many, are from these origins that we're so prevalent during WW2.
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originally posted by: Pearj
originally posted by: nightbringr
originally posted by: Pearj
originally posted by: nightbringr
originally posted by: KaDeCo
What you may be remembering is the commercials for their TV dinners which included a line about their stuffing.
See Product Here
I really thought there was Stouffer's Stovetop Stuffing as well, but, now I look at their product and logo, I don't remember them making more than frozen foods... and it would make no sense to make all frozen entrees and then randomly Thanksgiving Stuffing.
Haha, that's clearly it!
Brains work in funny ways. Case closed.
Not even close...
The case is building - the numbers are growing - the "Effect" (changes) are happening faster - more and more every day.
Like I've said many times..
It's only a matter of time until we're all "Effected".
It's the information age, more and more information is being shared quicker and quicker. You must also understand that as a result, information related mistakes will also increase.
Your second point is petty so I won't respond to it.
Its funny, because in a post a little above this one on this page, you go to great lengths to explain that 'you never once said your memory was perfect', yet you've also never once stated that its possible you are wrong.
Hmm.
Ps. You are wrong about effected and affected. I was right. www.diffen.com...
In the case you posted above, the first word would be 'effected'. The second 'affected'. In my post the 'affected' stands as the correct word.
lmao...
What are you talking about - it's in quotes - and capitalized. Everyone knows the difference between affected and effected.
Do you know the difference between "Effected" and effected?
People use the term "Effected" to mean "those affected by the Mandela Effect".
'cmon man
It's been in many, many threads - maybe you didn't notice.
You should get an award for making me smile.. ..do I seem linguistically challenged to you? lol You reached, and failed - better luck next time.
lmao
originally posted by: BlackProject
originally posted by: Nothin
a reply to: BlackProject
Maybe yes. Maybe no. Maybe: who can truly know?
What checks and balances do you use, to make sure that your ideas, are not using these mental shortcuts?
Based on empirical studies, facts. Read the following, it never happened.
To make for easier reading for you:
In one 2013 study at the University of California, Irvine, two groups of subjects were assembled, those with normal memories and another group of people with “highly superior autobiographical memory” (HSAM). These are people with uncanny memories who remember dates and event associations way beyond most of us. No matter, though: Testing revealed they produced just as many false memories as normal people. The researchers used the Deese–Roediger–McDermott (DRM) paradigm. In DRM, subjects are presented with a list of 12 “lure” words that make them think of another word that isn’t on the list. For example, it could be a dozen words like “bed,” “rest,” “pillow,” “blanket,” “dream,” and so on. Subjects, when quizzed on what words they’ve been shown, will remember seeing the word “sleep” as well. In fact, all of the test subjects in the UC Irvine experiments did. DRM-type lures can also make people falsely remember details in photos that aren’t there.
If you read the above and truly see it for what it is, then it is clear that yes the brain is not that good at storing good information.