The 8 min clip where the FBI lays out the PUBLIC evidence against Trump..

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: ColdWisdom

Ahh I believe you're right. Even better lol. Tanx.

Nope it was ties to Moscow oligarchs.

Yep and Bannon played Trump for a sucker and set him up.

Y'all think trump is weak enough for his subordinates to assume they could make that call without his ok??

Doubtful..

Trump is suffering from early stages of dementia and didn't even know what was going on. He was pre occupied with his twitter account, traveling around still campaigning and playing golf in Florida.

a reply to: XAnarchistX

It would be bad. Yes.

But the implications of the ongoing investigation are worse. I actually don't expect that Trump would be found to be involved in dealing with the Russians. However, if ala Nixon, he were found to be aiding in a coverup...he's toast.

If he's merely a puppet...is that better?

originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: The GUT

It just appalls me that people actually think Trump would go that far. He wouldn't. The man loves American, still eats McDonald's and talks a lot of smack. Gotta love'em.

That is why "delusional" keeps getting tossed around.

How does America lose in the proposed deal???

We don't care about Ukraine nor Russian sanctions..

Hypothetically it was win win for trump..

Trump wins and America doesn't lose..

Unless it gets found out and goes public..

I'm sure trump even thinks he would do a better job than hillary..

So from his POV.. he saves America from hillary in exchange for sanctions and Ukraine which VERY few Americans care about let alone would be willing to go to war over.

ummm, none of that. He had aspirations to become President and made his dream come true. Hillary was always corrupted.
He is saving Americans from its self serving politicians. The russian angle is deflection and fear mongering for an ignorant populace.

Then why all the unicorn level miracle coincidences??

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Really? because I see none. I see an establishment scrambling at the fact the Trump operates much differently. I've never believed the whole Russian scare angle. This is fear mongering that we excel at, ever since the Cold War. The tactics worked then, it still works now.

Again, who recorded Flynn's call? and released it? which is fact.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: XAnarchistX

I actually don't expect that Trump would be found to be involved in dealing with the Russians. However, if ala Nixon, he were found to be aiding in a coverup...he's toast.

It's nice to hear someone admit that. I admit aiding a cover up would be bad too. Is there a suggestion of that in any testimony or reports?

a reply to: Phage

But the implications of the ongoing investigation are worse. I actually don't expect that Trump would be found to be involved in dealing with the Russians. However, if ala Nixon, he were found to be aiding in a coverup...he's toast.

It's such a rare sight to see you peddling conspiracy theories like an overly loquacious abductee on the hypnotist's chair.

I'll even toast to such an occasion.

a reply to: Wardaddy454

What's hilarious in all of this is the MSM picked Trump because they knew they needed the worst candidate imaginable for Hillary to win. The Russians seem to have deviated from the script and preferred Trump.

Maybe this was their plan all along to continue the animosity between left and right in America. Nobodies noticing that states flush with illegals are soon to try to vote their way out of the union ... civil war.

And then Putin will wreak havoc in the middle east and europe.

a reply to: The GUT

Is there a suggestion of that in any testimony or reports?

Not as yet, no. Please note that I made no claim.

But then, it took a while for Nixon's role to come out. Didn't it?

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Verified? source.

In good standing?

Your opinions don't count, evidence does.

Like plane trips by top aids to Moscow, top aids having releasing information only the Russians had, lying about secret meetings with Russia and Flynn getting caught in the payroll of a Russian puppet state in turkey??

You mean all of that easily verifiable evidence..

Oh and let's not forget trumps ONLY change to the GOP platform just days before the leaks started..

Oh now Turkey is puppet state of Russia?
Come on...just stop with this nonsense.
Erdogan has butted heads with Putin on many occasions, most recently over Syria where Erdogan wants Assad out too, just like the US does. Putin backs Assad.
Turkey is a NATO member, not a member of the new Leftist version of the "Warsaw Pact".
Was Flynn caught looking with a fastball?...yes he was but his role as an "agent" of Turkey means nothing like you Leftists think it does.

The bias so obvious "when the Russians tried to help Trump become president", Shep. They had cause to be enemies with Hillary 100 times over being Trump's allies. Stopping Hillary was the motive would be the accurate way to frame it.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

So, you're ok with Russia mucking about with our election?

a reply to: Phage

As okay as I am with globalist multinational corporations literally running them. As evidenced by their fallacious framing of the thing, as I just explained (again), and still see people run around here 'daily' with their phoney meme.

YOu might check this out if this Russia stuff really interests you:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Sorry, too many memes.
Try toning it down and I might pay attention.

a reply to: Phage

So, you're ok with Russia mucking about with our election?

I'll answer that question if you tell me whether or not you are ok with Obama spending your tax dollars to influence the Israeli election, of which there is documentable evidence?

a reply to: ColdWisdom

Was it covert? Did it involve illegal activity?

Yeah, I would have a real problem with that.

a reply to: Phage

Sissy.

a reply to: Phage

Was it covert? Did it involve illegal activity?

Yeah, I would have a real problem with that.

Can you prove that what Russia did was covert or illegal?

According to the Grizzly Step report, Russia's involvement in 'meddling' amounted to television network RT (Russia Today) airing negative news pieces pertaining to Hillary.

Not exactly covert or illegal, is it?

a reply to: ColdWisdom

Can you prove that what Russia did was covert or illegal?

Hacking is illegal. Isn't it? Can I prove it? No, but didn't our president say "I think it was the Russians" in regard to the hacking?

What's a Grizzly Step?

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: Phage

It's such a rare sight to see you peddling conspiracy theories like an overly loquacious abductee on the hypnotist's chair.

I'll even toast to such an occasion.

You're right, Phage has gone Conspiracy Theorist!! I wonder if he can at all can grasp the cognitive dissonance of such epic hypocrisy?

a reply to: Phage

Hacking is illegal. Isn't it?

And yet we hacked Merkel's cell phone. Where was your outrage?

Can I prove it? No

Your post should have stopped right there.

but didn't our president say "I think it was the Russians" in regard to the hacking?

You mean when he commented on something that was already public knowledge? I'm talking about the Russian hack of the DNC, which we now know could have been fabricated by the CIA thanks to Vault 7.

Clapper had some choice words for that 'hack' as well. I believe he said that attribution could not be made one way or another to any particular nation state, but that 'all the usual suspects' were being considered.

What's a Grizzly Step?

Grizzly Steppe

You're really slacking tonight, Phage.