The 8 min clip where the FBI lays out the PUBLIC evidence against Trump..

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: JoshuaCox

FBI is the investigation arm of the DOJ, isn't it? FBI investigates domestic cases, not foreigners.

FBI investigates anybody

a reply to: xuenchen

DOJ does not go after foreign citizens. FBI is under the jurisdiction of DOJ. FBI does not investigate foreign citizens unless foreign citizens are connected with American citizens.

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Guccifer 2.0 hacked the DNC in June 2016, not a month before the election. The DNC chair resigned the shame and that really hurt the Democrats' public image. Democrats lost in 2016 mainly because of that. They got caught they cheated on Bernie Sanders. Bernie fans made up nearly half the Democrat voters. You do the math on the consequences in the general election.

The leaks were originally hacked long before the primaries ended.

And they didn't cheat..

It's a broken system..

There was nothing new or original they did this cycle..

That is one the most astounding parts of this all to me.

People pretended like hillary was uniquely corrupt , when in reality pay for play and insider trading were made legal generations ago..

None of the lifers need to break the law to get rich at the cost of the American people...

Why would you steal money , when you can legally insider trade??

You wouldn't..

Same thing goes for Donald trump..

Do you think a lawyer doesn't check his every financial move for at least deniability?!?

The reason I buy the Russian thing is because there is a specific benefit and quid pro up trail.

All the major players were in contact with each other , when it looked really bad to be in contact because rumors were already rampant.

Then the major players all lied about said meetings when pressed before congress.

Plus you had 2 people fired BY TRUMP because the stories about their connections to Moscow surfaced.


The only change to the GOP platform removing military action in ukraine just nails it..

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
The only change to the GOP platform removing military action in ukraine just nails it..

The US isn't going to lose soldiers in Ukraine for nothing and you know it. It is to America's advantage to let Ukrainians and Russians butcher each other.

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: xuenchen

DOJ does not go after foreign citizens. FBI is under the jurisdiction of DOJ. FBI does not investigate foreign citizens unless foreign citizens are connected with American citizens.

You might be right.

The U.S. Department of Justice appears to be losing the battle to prosecute foreign executives who refuse to plead guilty. Statistics from the DOJ's ongoing, five-year-long investigation into cartel conduct in the auto parts industry reveal that foreign executives are far less likely to agree to plead guilty than United States-based executives

a reply to: Phage

But they don't exactly know "what" to focus on, is it "Hacking"? is it "Meddling"? is it just business deals and "Collusions"? it's becoming a hysteria inasmuch as everyone is using Russia as an excuse on all Political sides.

People who have no idea about hacking are all of a sudden attempting to Dox people on the internet because they are "Russian", reporting people who they believe are Russian bot's and propagandist

a reply to: JoshuaCox

You don't get to magically pick who it goes to...and an impeachment does NOT mean he has to be removed from office. Just look at Clinton.

Speculation on a internet message board..

Shocking?!?!

What's your point exactly?!?!

originally posted by: allsee4eye

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
The only change to the GOP platform removing military action in ukraine just nails it..

The US isn't going to lose soldiers in Ukraine for nothing and you know it. It is to America's advantage to let Ukrainians and Russians butcher each other.

Absolutely!!

That is why I think trump takes the deal..

Except for him commiting treason lol... he wasn't trading anything the American people care about..

He gets a leg up in a presidential race everyone thinks he is losing.. in exchange for sanctions and Ukraine , which Americans don't care about!!

Win win..

Till you get caught.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Speculation. In the meantime, actual crimes have come to light, namely, the leaking of classified info to a hostile press and their subservient parrots. But I'm still unsure why we'd ignore the actual crimes in favor of make-believe ones.

This is the real crime and crux of the matter. In fact, of the hearing, this is the only thing that WAS crime, good thing it was Trey Gowdy who got that out of comey. Gotta admire gowdy.

a reply to: Arnie123

I love the flip flops and fake outrage over Leaks by the conservatives.

One minute they love the leaks when they are against their opponents. Even Trump himself not so subtly asking for more hacks and leaks while speaking publicly.

Next minute, "Oh no, those illegal leaks, they must be stopped."

Funny how it's only criminal when it's the other guys doing it. But when it's helping you gain power leaks are all wonderful.

Anything "Russian" is a psy-op and smoke screen the globalists are throwing up to try and make a case where none exists. Meanwhile they're all in bed with China (the real problem) and Hillary sold 20% of US's uranium to Russia but "that's ok". Anyone who's buying this Russian connection has sawdust for brains and must be listening to MSM "trumped" up lies. It's a psy-op people! Stop buying into their lies!!! They want Trump gone because Trump is taking on the globalists and trying to save the USA from completely going down the NWO tubes! But of course you all knew that, right?

a reply to: wishes

Boy aren't you really well informed for a member with a history of almost no participation for the last 7 years. Got all those talking points memorized do ya???

You probably shouldn't try so hard to shift attention away from Russia. Use fewer talking points too. It will make your little propaganda campaign a lot more believable.

You can pass that advice on to the rest of your buddies too if you want.

originally posted by: wishes
Anything "Russian" is a psy-op and smoke screen the globalists are throwing up to try and make a case where none exists. Meanwhile they're all in bed with China (the real problem) and Hillary sold 20% of US's uranium to Russia but "that's ok". Anyone who's buying this Russian connection has sawdust for brains and must be listening to MSM "trumped" up lies. It's a psy-op people! Stop buying into their lies!!! They want Trump gone because Trump is taking on the globalists and trying to save the USA from completely going down the NWO tubes! But of course you all knew that, right?

Sigh. The globalist bogeyman is an overplayed hand, just like yelling "SOROS!" everytime a group of more liberal-type people protest the right-wing agenda.

Hillary DID NOT SELL 20% of the US's uranium to Russia. This is a bogus fake-news claim that has been disproved over and over, yet in zombie-like fashion it continues to lurch into every "But Hillary!" argument...Give that lie a rest, please.

If you have any interest in the truth, you can read this: link I realize that this source will be unacceptable to you, because it is counter to your argument, but I will not continue on the carousel "round and round" of this unsubstantiated and false argument.

Besides, NONE OF THIS IS ABOUT HILLARY.

Now Russia? Putin? Are they even a problem for us?? Yes. They attacked us. Cyberwarfare-style. Patriots should defend their country and disavow those who seek to disrupt and destroy our republic, including the Russian action against our electoral process. Even if its against those horrible lefties, because what goes around comes around, and all the righties could be next....

originally posted by: Milehigh
matter of weeks before impeachement

No path to 270.

originally posted by: imitator
I haven't been following fake news lately.... so it took the FBI 3 months to fabricate a story? This stuff is becoming laughable.... Me thinks the the liberals are digging their own grave.

So the FBI is fabricating things but trump isn't? The cult is so hilarious with their conspiracies. Adorable.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: SaturnFX
How long before President Pence is in office...get the traitor Trump away from office and in a more fitting area...like prison.

I may not like Pence's stances in many areas, but he is presidential.

Goodnight Trump..the train seems to be coming to a stop

I think you have to drop his appointments since the election it's self is at the root.

Doesnt work like that. no guilt by association. of course all will be scrutinized and if anything comes up, it will be addressed then, but rules apply. When Nixon was..."resigned" from office, Ford stepped up.

originally posted by: PhuckingWhiteMale

originally posted by: Milehigh
matter of weeks before impeachement

No path to 270.

Unless the threat of a scandal erupting just before the mid-term election. The GOP doesn't want to lose their majority by being tainted.

Trumps going to be impeached just like he was going to lose the election. I love the certainty of his opponents. Especially when their manufactured reality is crushed.

a reply to: Milehigh

even if its true anything he did before he took office is null and void to impeach you have to prove he did something after he took his oath of office. all i see is desperate lifers trying to get rid of guy who is looking to cut pork out of gov jobs