How we CELEBRATE people killing & getting killed in pursuit of EMPIRE (Memorial Day)

You guys are looking at it from the wrong end.

I draw your attention, yet again, to the likes of Te Whiti.

originally posted by: aorAki
You guys are looking at it from the wrong end.

I draw your attention, yet again, to the likes of Te Whiti.

Does no good unless absolutely everyone reads from the same playbook does it?
Might as well wish on a star.

a reply to: aorAki

Listen I'm glad you exist, perhaps one day in the future a peaceful global world will exist, where we focus on space colonization and destroying pigme aliens, until that time we will soldier on to protect the beliefs and interests of our society's, but don't think for a second I don't respect your existence or your will to peace.

Following this discussion, I'm left with the feeling that few of you 'big brained' baby killers are likely to have ever encountered a Logical Fallacy list. Check this out:
utminers.utep.edu...

Can anyone tell me which fallacy this would be:

A: There have always been hegemonic empires.
B: Therefore, there always should be.

Or try this:

A: There exist people who are opposed to imperialistically dominating and exploiting others.
B: Therefore, they are opposed to or unwilling to defend themselves.

Moving on:

A: A military is a combat apparatus, and we have one.
B: Therefore, we should use it to impose our will upon others.

Another:

>Our rulers know what's best for us, and they say we need to go invade x nation for y reason.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Now your #ing calling us baby killers, you know what man I'm done with you or anything you have to say, go ahead and say that in public to some veterans see how that works out for you.

a reply to: TechniXcality

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Wars are fought by empires for things like barrels of oil.

Babies routinely get blown up in such wars (for barrels of oil).

You unapologetically support wars for imperial conquest (where babies routinely get blown up).

Yet somehow I'm the demented individual?

Yep.

Right there I spelled it out, and your boy he went with it. You continued to back him up.

LOL what you should have pointed out was that in my sermon about you guys reading up on logical fallacies I myself committed one! I literally handed you that fodder, and you fumbled it!

EDIT: I dont know why the text isnt showing up in there but I quoted our baby killer discussion. In any event babies get blown up in wars for conquest, you SUPPORT wars of conquest, so you do the math.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Again with the hate fella.

I'm thinking it's a growing feeling of being some how less than those you keep attacking that leads you to this.

You aren't a pacifist or some guru who knows the truth of the universe.
You're bitter and twisted by your sense (rightly in your case) of inferiority.

That stuff you are writing down, those feelings making your blood rush. They are what starts a bar fight or a war.

So who's the baby killer here?

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Following this discussion, I'm left with the feeling that few of you 'big brained' baby killers . . . . .

I quit reading after that.

Have a nice day.

a reply to: DBCowboy

You had better ignore the rest because the "logic" you keep posting in this thread is pure fallacious baby poop, and that post there scientifically spelt it out for you.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: TechniXcality

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Wars are fought by empires for things like barrels of oil.

Babies routinely get blown up in such wars (for barrels of oil).

You unapologetically support wars for imperial conquest (where babies routinely get blown up).

Yet somehow I'm the demented individual?

Yep.

Right there I spelled it out, and your boy he went with it. You continued to back him up.

LOL what you should have pointed out was that in my sermon about you guys reading up on logical fallacies I myself committed one! I literally handed you that fodder, and you fumbled it!

EDIT: I dont know why the text isnt showing up in there but I quoted our baby killer discussion. In any event babies get blown up in wars for conquest, you SUPPORT wars of conquest, so you do the math.

It is still a load of bollox.

And you're welcome.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: DBCowboy

You had better ignore the rest because the "logic" you keep posting in this thread is pure fallacious baby poop, and that post there scientifically spelt it out for you.

Yes, you must be right. Go surrender somewhere.

I'm done.

Have a great Memorial Day.

oo-rah.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
That stuff you are writing down, those feelings making your blood rush. They are what starts a bar fight or a war.
So who's the baby killer here?

Name this fallacy:

A: Dude's anti-war comment started a bar fight.
B: Since it did, surely it would also start a war.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: SprocketUK
That stuff you are writing down, those feelings making your blood rush. They are what starts a bar fight or a war.
So who's the baby killer here?

Name this fallacy:

A: Dude's anti-war comment started a bar fight.
B: Since it did, surely it would also start a war.

Try this, treat someone respectfully and they'll respect you back.
Be an arse and they'll feel like kicking it.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Baby killer would almost surely start a bar fight, he's got a point you are no pacifist.

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: aorAki

If it wasn't for soldiers protecting your ass, you and your conscientious objection wouldn't exist.

Please name the army that you stopped from coming here and taking away our free speech.

And yet more fallacies:

A: The military is supposedly for defense, yet gets used for the American Imperialism agenda. (no one here has denied this)
B: If it weren't for it being a global empire with 700+ overseas military bases, you wouldn't have free speech.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
Try this, treat someone respectfully and they'll respect you back.

There's like pages of TechniX & ManBehindMask disrespecting me before I finally joined in the fun. And now you big tough guy knuckle draggers are crying like babies whose legs just got blown off.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: aorAki

If it wasn't for soldiers protecting your ass, you and your conscientious objection wouldn't exist.

Please name the army that you stopped from coming here and taking away our free speech.

And yet more fallacies:

A: The military is supposedly for defense, yet gets used for the American Imperialism agenda. (no one here has denied this)
B: If it weren't for it being a global empire with 700+ overseas military bases, you wouldn't have free speech.

For one thing, those bases made the Red Army realise winning a war was impossible. Maintaining the power of the military machinery likewise.

So there's one for you.

You could go back and see pretty much every major conflict was about not letting the other side get the upper hand.

Not once, in all those wars, did the blokes holding the rifles decide when it all kicked off.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

You must realize resource and energy supports our society from collapse, protects your life style and allows you to call us baby killers on the internet in the safety of your home? You also must realize every superpower is vying for those resources and they will use surreptitious activity and also proxy wars and full out war to achieve those ends? Your mission would be better suited in finding and supporting technological advancement and practical application, then sitting on the internet calling for the disgrace of fallen soldiers and calling us baby killers. Sorry if your idealistic and asshole approach doesn't resonate with many of us.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: SprocketUK
Try this, treat someone respectfully and they'll respect you back.

There's like pages of TechniX & ManBehindMask disrespecting me before I finally joined in the fun. And now you big tough guy knuckle draggers are crying like babies whose legs just got blown off.

Boo hoo.
How do you know my knuckles drag?
How do you know I'm a tough guy?
Yet more prejudice from atop mount Olympus?

Like I said before, you aren't a pacifist, you just want to hate on someone.

christmas was about the birth of the guy who later popularized a form of judaism, now its about gluttony and santa.
easter was about the sacrifice the same guy gave for humanity, what better way to celebrate than change the date every year and, chocolate rabbits.

the consumer driven, capitalist society we live in leaves kids demanding more from parents, who are trying to one up their neighbours.
not really surprising the real meaning is being lost.