The Truth of Sanders is That He Is a Socialist.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

Dude, you're acting like an asshole.

That's because I am an asshole. No acting here.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Subcal-adapter for M-16, M-16, M-203, M-60, M-249 (?), M-9, M-1911, M-7282, AT4.
That's the stuff he qualified with.

Great, so grunt weapons. Good for him.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Anyway - "Military and LE" is an undefined position or branch or title.

Marines?
Navy?
Army?
Air Force?

Air Force.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
WHAT BRANCH, and how far did you get???????? You a Sheriff, or deputy, or desk clerk, or DEA agent, or state trooper, or meter maid, or private security.....with police commission, or in a neighborhood grocery?
ANYONE with basic training can get an "LE" job.

City LE
And no, not "anyone" with basic training can get a job. Actually having an active TS, and LE experience with the military helped get me hired.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Not Impressed.

Meh, guess I won't sleep well this night then.....

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
How long were you in? Where did you serve? Honorable discharge? Rank?

4 years, E-4.


Oh, don't forget that FFL with SOT as well. Seems that my qualifications are still higher than just about anyone here on ATS.

a reply to: macman

City LE

Mmm. So, a beat cop? Chief of Police?

And no, not "anyone" with basic training can get a job.

really?

High-quality, law enforcement-related training is the focus of the Regional Police Academy for sworn and non-sworn members of the Kansas City Missouri Police Department and area law enforcement agencies.
The Academy provides the following law enforcement training: Basic Recruit Training, Continuing Education, Leadership Academy, Driver’s Training, and Firearms Training. Continuing education and Leadership courses are also provided to non-sworn members of police agencies.

kcmo.gov...
Yes, they can, if they go to Police Academy.

Actually having an active TS, and LE experience with the military helped get me hired.

Dude, Mr Wigs was an Army MP.
What were you? And when?
Security Police?

a reply to: macman

That's because I am an asshole. No acting here.

Okay. I guess.
Thanks for playing.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

Mmm. So, a beat cop? Chief of Police?

Started in patrol. Worked to CRT and was testing for motors.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

really?

High-quality, law enforcement-related training is the focus of the Regional Police Academy for sworn and non-sworn members of the Kansas City Missouri Police Department and area law enforcement agencies.
The Academy provides the following law enforcement training: Basic Recruit Training, Continuing Education, Leadership Academy, Driver’s Training, and Firearms Training. Continuing education and Leadership courses are also provided to non-sworn members of police agencies.

kcmo.gov...
Yes, they can, if they go to Police Academy.

So, did google tell you that the hiring process varies from state to state? Some states require you to pay your own way through an academy and then agencies pick students to hire. Some states hire you and put you through.
Man, I know google is great and all, but it can only take you so far.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Dude, Mr Wigs was an Army MP.

So an Army MP. How fantastic.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
What were you? And when?
Security Police?

Telecom/Networks and SF.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Hey, I have no qualms about being what I am.
It's nice.

a reply to: macman

Telecom/Networks and SF.

So, you're an IT guy?
Security Forces?

Ever been deployed? To where?


Wow. Unimpressive record is not impressive.
So, you're a 911 dispatcher? Or a police dispatcher?
Well, I'm happy for you - you kick ass, dude.

I could tell you about my husband's IT knowledge, but it's totally off-topic.....
and I have stopped caring what you think.



By the way, Mr Wigs has 11 years military, and 25 years in IT.

originally posted by: links234

originally posted by: Teikiatsu
I'd just like to know how 90% corporate tax is going to help when 39.6% isn't helping?

Can you find where he says that here? I can't. I do see lots of areas where he's intending on closing loopholes.

In fact. I don't see that 90% figure anywhere in his platform. Where'd you get that?

Fair point. I got the 90% from early Sanders quotes before he released his tax 'plan'.

Quotes from conversations like :

Sanders - "I think the highest marginal tax rate was something like 90 percent."

John Harwood - "It was 90. When you think about 90 percent, you don't think that's obviously too high."

Sanders - "No. What I think we've seen, and what frightens me again, when you have the top one-tenth of 1 percent owning almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent. Does anybody think that that is the kind of economy this country should have? Do we think it's moral?"

Looks like he's aiming for 52%, which is still insane. By what logic does the government own more than half of your labor?

My question still stands. How does raising the tax rate help? Looks like he's 125-percenting down on stupid.

originally posted by: Esoterotica
"Democratic socialists would have government inject itself into the financial system and take control of natural resources to help the broader populace before private profit."

Sounds fricken fine to me. Screw the capitalist oligarchy & addiction to slavery.

And this is why people are buying guns at record rates.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

By what logic does the government own more than half of your labor?

By what logic does your employer's CEO get to off-shore their money and the jobs, and EVADE taxes, and rely on tax-payers to keep their state-side employees fed????

They (the CEOs of corporations) own MORE THAN 90% of the 'wealth' in this country. YOU are pullling up the slack - YOU are paying taxes to make sure the American workers of these 'corporations' have enough to eat.
Why would you NOT WANT the Employing Corporation to provide enough money for their employees to be able to eat without you subsidizing them?????

WHY ARE YOU OKAY with paying for EMPLOYED PEOPLE to have enough to eat? When their employers could do so, but WON'T.

Why does this seem okay to you????
You don't want to pay taxes to pull up the slack for the working poor, and you don't want corporations to have to pay their share.

Sick thinking. Twisted, sick thinking.

Stop watching FOX. You two are smarter than that.....
listen to NPR. Watch PBS. Get your facts straight.

originally posted by: Teikiatsu
Looks like he's aiming for 52%, which is still insane. By what logic does the government own more than half of your labor?

My question still stands. How does raising the tax rate help? Looks like he's 125-percenting down on stupid.

By what logic do you find a 52% tax rate 'insane'? We had 90% under Eisenhower and Kennedy. It dropped to 70% in the mid-60's, it dropped to 50% under Reagan and dropped again to 28% under Bush. Clinton raised taxes to 40%. So Sanders is suggesting raising the tax rate to what it was under Reagen 30 years ago, by 10%.

Mind you, that's the top marginal tax rate, very few people pay that rate. Given the number of loopholes very, very few people pay that top rate. The richest man in America, Warren Buffett, doesn't pay that rate. You'll probably never pay that rate as it only impacts people who make more than $10 million/year.

Now you tell me, who in this world could possibly put forth so much 'labor' as to make $10 million annually compared to the millions of people who work very, very difficult jobs and make $20,000/year?

The government doesn't 'own' half your labor, it's an exchange, you work and provide a portion of your income to the government and the government provides you and everyone else with services. The roads you use? Taxes. The safe car you drive? Built under the watchful eye of the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration. That military and police force to protect your neighborhood and nation? Paid for by taxes.

It's not like you're getting nothing in exchange for your taxes. You may not benefit, directly, from every service offered by the government...but that doesn't mean that other people don't when they need it most. What Sanders is proposing is expanding the services offered by the government. Raise the tax rates of the richest 10% of the population, who have been benefiting way more than the government from your labor, and offering you a better deal on the services already in place and creating new services for future generations.

a reply to: links234

Mind you, that's the top marginal tax rate

The original income tax was %4 on the top 1% and was supposed to replace the Tariff.

Right now the average tax payer works 10 years for no pay, the pay going to taxes.

I have bought someone else a house, whether I have one or not.

a reply to: macman

Well of course. You are a conservative FOX News type who has such disdain for govt. agencies yet you are a vet and now a public servant in the K.C. Police dept. Another pay check from the tax payers. Whats next? Planning on using your VA educational benefits to further your govt. job? Maybe go into politics? Is Jefferson City your target or possibly national? It all makes sense now. You hate govt. yet apparently you avoid working in the private sector and decided to use your "talents" in the areas you hate. Most people like you that hates govt. are quit often govt. employees...lol. Whats your badge number?...lol

originally posted by: dagann
a reply to: macman

Well of course. You are a conservative FOX News type who has such disdain for govt. agencies yet you are a vet and now a public servant in the K.C. Police dept. Another pay check from the tax payers. Whats next? Planning on using your VA educational benefits to further your govt. job? Maybe go into politics? Is Jefferson City your target or possibly national? It all makes sense now. You hate govt. yet apparently you avoid working in the private sector and decided to use your "talents" in the areas you hate. Most people like you that hates govt. are quit often govt. employees...lol. Whats your badge number?...lol

Police work is a real job that government confiscated into a monopoly.

The government is the source and maintenance of all monopolies.

VA benefits are part of a contract for service, they are not welfare, as you seem to imply.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

So, you're an IT guy?
Security Forces?

That's what I said.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs


Wow. Unimpressive record is not impressive.

Geez, and to think here I am really trying to do so, only to not impress you.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
So, you're a 911 dispatcher? Or a police dispatcher?
Well, I'm happy for you - you kick ass, dude.

Dispatcher?? Are you just making stuff up now? When did I state that.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
I could tell you about my husband's IT knowledge, but it's totally off-topic.....
and I have stopped caring what you think.

WOW, you must be really proud of that.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
By the way, Mr Wigs has 11 years military, and 25 years in IT.

Annnnnd that means what exactly?

If you are going to flaunt your husbands experiences, why doesn't he just come on here for you, instead of relaying crap?

originally posted by: dagann
a reply to: macman

Well of course. You are a conservative FOX News type who has such disdain for govt. agencies yet you are a vet and now a public servant in the K.C. Police dept. Another pay check from the tax payers. Whats next? Planning on using your VA educational benefits to further your govt. job? Maybe go into politics? Is Jefferson City your target or possibly national? It all makes sense now. You hate govt. yet apparently you avoid working in the private sector and decided to use your "talents" in the areas you hate. Most people like you that hates govt. are quit often govt. employees...lol. Whats your badge number?...lol

What in the Progressive hell are you babbling about?
KC PD??? Fox news? Where do you get this crap

a reply to: links234

This is a brilliant post, and I hope you get a formal applause for it.

Mind you, that's the top marginal tax rate, very few people pay that rate. Given the number of loopholes very, very few people pay that top rate. The richest man in America, Warren Buffett, doesn't pay that rate. You'll probably never pay that rate as it only impacts people who make more than $10 million/year.

Now you tell me, who in this world could possibly put forth so much 'labor' as to make $10 million annually compared to the millions of people who work very, very difficult jobs and make $20,000/year?

The government doesn't 'own' half your labor, it's an exchange, you work and provide a portion of your income to the government and the government provides you and everyone else with services. The roads you use? Taxes. The safe car you drive? Built under the watchful eye of the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration. That military and police force to protect your neighborhood and nation? Paid for by taxes.

It's not like you're getting nothing in exchange for your taxes.

So - here's all I can offer other than the lone star you so richly deserve.
Bravo, sir or madam. Bravo.

I've missed out on much of this thread lately.

So it is the consensus that Bernie is a socialist, but socialism is good?

a reply to: macman

FFL with SOT

Oh! So, Federal Firearms Licensed dealer to sell Suppresors! Sweeeet!!!!! Wow!!!

An FFL/SOT can only transfer NFA items to residents of the state they are licensed in; which, in our case means: if you live outside of Texas, we will need the name of an FFL/SOT who lives in your area so we can transfer the suppressor to them. (We can help you locate one if you don’t already have someone in mind.)

When it comes to transferring to another FFL/SOT, we really don’t need anything from the customer. All we need to complete the transfer is a copy of the FFL & SOT licenses from the dealer who is going to receive the suppressor.

Source

So, where are you? This particular source is talking about Texas.

You a Cruz supporter?
(Paul dropped out, remember.....)

So - now two questions:

Who do you need to assault? and
Why do you need to sell Suppressors?

Just trying to make out what in the hell you are talking about.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Aww, thanks!

a reply to: DBCowboy

The OP posits that Sanders is a socialist. It has thus been proven by all commenters that Sanders is, in fact, a socialist. Whether socialism itself is good, is still a hotly debated topic within the thread. There has been little, to no, discussion whether or not Sanders is a good man.

a reply to: links234

No? Well, there are loads of us who think he is.
Not to worry.