Christianity is a death cult

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Paul is a death cult. Pauline Christianity is a death cult. The lost Christianity, the one you most likely oppose because of a lack of knowledge, that one that was murdered and tortured because it could not be controlled by the rich and powerful, is a life cult.

The rich and powerful elite of society created a mastermind network of lies to use religion as a fundamental controlling system to enslave the minds of the whole world, or those ready to be so gullible as to put a human's false doctrine of God before the Godly and true.

a reply to: greyer

Christianity IS "Paulianity". I agree that Paul's teachings are that of a death cult. His doctrine is the foundation of the church, so I'm not exactly sure what you're rebuking me for. Paul teaches us to praise a man's death and to worship him as God, that is blasphemy.

Jesus was not God, he never claimed such a thing. Jesus was just like every one of us, he just had a way with words. We can all become like Jesus, all it takes is love for others.

a reply to: yuppa

I don't care to read a book at this time of night. Maybe you could summarize the basic points in the link? What in it disproves what I posted?

Rome was infamous for taking others ideas and turning them into their own. How do you think their Greco-Roman pantheon came into being? The same way Jesus came into being, by amalgamizing several pagan gods into one man who supposedly walked the Roman countryside in the first century. The cross was a pagan symbol long before Jesus was crucified on it, Christianity adopted a pagan symbol as their own.

Christianity is a pagan sun god cult promoted as original and unique. Nothing more and nothing less. Ever heard of Bacchus? He is only one of many pagan gods that Jesus shares qualities with.

a reply to: greyer

um, so you think the fact god created you to be a sexual being, is the fault of women?

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: yuppa

The cross was a pagan symbol long before Jesus was crucified on it, Christianity adopted a pagan symbol as their own.

Christianity is a pagan sun god cult promoted as original and unique. Nothing more and nothing less. Ever heard of Bacchus? He is only one of many pagan gods that Jesus shares qualities with.

the cross is the ankh, paired with something like the staff of asclepius (which is the tree of life/tree of knowledge=which is genetic (dna) medicine (thus the serpent in the tree is represented by the serpent bound staff, which is inheritable dna). just superimpose the serpent wound staff with the ankh, and you have what jesus was saying when he said, he was like the serpent in the desert that moses raised on his staff, to bring healing to the people.

it's no surprise that these two cultures were similar in iconography and wisdom teachings, since ham, a son of noah, brought the sumerian creation accounts to egypt (ham=khem, which is the name of egypt).

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Me think Christianity is one of the most effective control mechanism for the mass ever invented.

Just think of the confession, a village priest will know everything that append in the village and repport anything of interest above in the hierarchy. Everyone, even the most vile crook is accepted and pardoned if he confess all his sins!

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Tangerine

Actually not all christians do the drinking of blood and the eating of flesh thing. thats those heretics in the catholic church and a few others.

ALso Science has not proved or disproved the existence of God yet SO to speak as if you know the answer is very self centered correct?

AS for what a christian is. They are belivers in the life and sacrifice of Jesus and the word of his Father God. SImple eh?

I didn't mention the ritual cannibalism. Someone else did. But protestants take communion, too.

When someone makes a claim of fact (ie. God exists), the onus is on them to prove it with testable evidence.

It's the Christians who constantly claim that someone else who claims to be a Christian isn't a real Christian.

originally posted by: PeterMcFly
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Me think Christianity is one of the most effective control mechanism for the mass ever invented.

Just think of the confession, a village priest will know everything that append in the village and repport anything of interest above in the hierarchy. Everyone, even the most vile crook is accepted and pardoned if he confess all his sins!

cool story, only problem is, non catholic christians (perhaps you've heard of them ) don't confess to a priest by religious writ.

they confess to whoever they want, including themselves (which seems like a good place to start, as being true to yourself, removes all kinds of barriers regarding self improvement).

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: windword
My kids love Halloween, and so do I. They go get their candy and I setup a haunted house, lots of fun. Now I'm sure someone would suggest we were celebrating a Satanic/pagan holiday too, and I would say ,no we are having fun...nothing more nothing less.

You're a bit confused. Hallowe'en is a distortion of Samhain, a Celtic pagan festival that has absolutely nothing to do with Satanism. You didn't think Satanism is a pagan religion, did you?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Why do you say "many Christians are so inclined"?

Because that's been my experience both in my life and here on ATS.

I would say that how a person lives their lives is a personal thing and whether they fear death or rejoice life is something deep within them. In my whole life I have never seen anyone try to use Christianity as a fear of death tool, or death cult scenario. I do agree there are fringe churches that may, but they are rather limited in their following.

Yes, religion SHOULD be a personal thing, but I think you're in denial about how much the themes of death, punishment, guilt and sacrifice have influenced the Abrahamic religion and permeated Christianity. And while you may believe that they're fringe, I can show you a thousand pictures of people beating themselves, crawling on their knees upon sharp rocks for miles and even crucifying themselves in order to be just like Jesus. Open your eyes and stop being so defensive.

Just like if one actually went to a Christmas mass one would not see/hear anything devoted to paganism. Another example is Halloween. My kids love Halloween, and so do I. They go get their candy and I setup a haunted house, lots of fun. Now I'm sure someone would suggest we were celebrating a Satanic/pagan holiday too, and I would say ,no we are having fun...nothing more nothing less.

Ignorance is Bliss!

a reply to: undo

Good point, my only explanation is that there have been "fork" of the original concept as these peoples really believe in it. My idea are to be applyied to the good "old" inquisition style catholic religion.

a reply to: Tangerine

protestant communion is a metaphor, though, as protestants don't believe the wine is actual blood nor the bread, actual flesh. it's more symbolic than anything else and it isn't symbolic for the embracing of cannabalism, but the end of human sacrifice.

People believe what they believe. I don't think there's a one answer for everybody. All I can do is say I wish good for everybody and everything, but I can't guarantee anything beyond these simple words.

I was a christian once. I can remember many of the feelings I used to have. I still have a recurring sense of "sin". I don't think a person has to be a chriistian or a religious person to have a "sin" sense. Sin is just, in general, the absence of empathy or goodness or things of that nature. I think children to know sin is. Sin is like a person who enslaves others, uses them, abuses them, hurts them, and never once feels shame or sorrow or compassion for their woes. Sin brings oppression with it.

Idk. If I was on my deathbed, I think all I could say, if I was lucky enough to be able to say anyting, might be something like "Live long and prosper. Do unto others as you would to yourself. You'll fail sooner or later, but life is defined by those who get back up. Be honest, or at least try. Work hard. And if in the end you fail anyway, I'll not hate you. There's too much hate. I can only hope you don't hurt anyone on the road to oblivion."

In general, almost anybody could say it better and briefer than me.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: greyer
Jesus was not God, he never claimed such a thing. Jesus was just like every one of us, he just had a way with words. We can all become like Jesus, all it takes is love for others.

I am happy you are asserting to me that Jesus was not God, he was the son of God, and preached that it is possible to be a son of God, but that we must give up everything of the material world. It is an Essene doctrine, laws going back to Enoch, the first man since Adam that learned to write.

The Term God is pagan, Jesus did not use the word God, he used Father.

I have a gospel here the goes back tot he Dead Sea Scrolls, one has to just know how to read it, and know how to read Paul. This is from the Man himself and really opposing Paul, saying that teaching and believing is boldly wicked in that generation.

This people draweth nigh unto Me, with their mouths, and honour me with their lips, but their heart is far from me, for in vain do they worship Me teaching and believing, and teaching for divine doctrines, the commandments of men in my name but to satisfy their own lusts.

Now we can make history possibly because I remember seeing that in the Dead Sea Scrolls, but it is from a gospel. It puts me in Awe because they said that the time before the Teacher of Righteousness until the 'consuming of all men of war who returned with the Man of Falsehood is about 40 years.' How could the scholars be mistaken? Jesus died around 30 AD, 40 years later they lost the war.

Its interpretation concerns the Wicked Priest, who pursued after the Teacher of Righteousness to swallow him up in his hot fury, even to his place of exile, and on the occasion of the sacred season of rest, the day of atonement, he appeared among them to swallow them up and to make them stumble on the fast-day, their sabbath of rest.

Its interpretation concerns the Wicked Priest: because of the evil done to the Teacher of
Righteousness and the men of his council, God gave him into the hands of his enemies

Its interpretation concerns the last priests of Jerusalem...

The interpretation of this saying refers to the Wicked Priest, to repay him his recompense as he recompensed the poor. For 'Lebanon' is the council of the community, and 'the beasts' are the simple ones of Judah, the doers of the law. God will condemn him to destruction even as he plotted to destroy the poor.

The wicked priest is Caiaphas. The Poor are the Ebionites. The council is the council of 12, or 12 apostles. We have proved this. The Teach of Righteousness is being referred to as a Savior, that will be resurrected.

[Their interpretation concerns the Teacher of Righteousness: he it is who teaches the law to his
council and to all those who offer themselves willingly to be gathered among the elect people of
God, practicing the law in the council of the community, who will be saved from the day of
judgment.

To walk therewith during the whole epoch of wickedness, and apart from them they will
not grasp instruction until he who teaches righteousness arises in the end of the days.

originally posted by: jonnywhite
People believe what they believe. I don't think there's a one answer for everybody. All I can do is say I wish good for everybody and everything, but I can't guarantee anything beyond these simple words.

agreed. wish the best for everyone. do unto others as you would have them do unto you. makes sense.

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Tangerine

protestant communion is a metaphor, though, as protestants don't believe the wine is actual blood nor the bread, actual flesh. it's more symbolic than anything else and it isn't symbolic for the embracing of cannabalism, but the end of human sacrifice.

The metaphorical consumption of blood and flesh is still ritual cannibalism. I suggest you recall the words that are spoken as you do this.

I'm still waiting for those writings about Jesus by the disciples, Egyptians, etc. that you referenced in an earlier post .

a reply to: Tangerine

you must've missed it. scroll back till you find the post i addressed to you.

originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Tangerine

I didn't mention the ritual cannibalism. Someone else did. But protestants take communion, too.

When someone makes a claim of fact (ie. God exists), the onus is on them to prove it with testable evidence.

It's the Christians who constantly claim that someone else who claims to be a Christian isn't a real Christian.

Using your logic of proving what you have claimed Can you say with 100 percent certainty that science willnot find proof of Gods existence? remember its up to you to prove he does not butwith current technology that might not be possible. SO what happens when you cannot prove something defintly? Its left for another time isnt it? Currently it would be a theory right?

But as we all know theories do not mean proven.

Also The people can claim to be christians but its their actions that show if they truly are. SO its not always as you say about someone being able to tell who is who right?


@enlightened. no i wont summarize it for you. stop being lazy and read it . lol

originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: Nochzwei
Jesus had to die on the cross and be raised up again, for if He did not ascend into Heaven, The Holy Spirit would not be in this world and true Christianity would be non existent.
So we should be thankful for His sacrifice on the cross, as He Himself said, to this end He was born.
Praise the Lord

So first he had to descend into Hell, and then back to Earth, followed by a 30 day waiting period and then Ascend to Heaven to make it all work ????

What mechanisms exist that create the need for such a bizarre system ??

Who are we to question the ways of our Lord?

a reply to: Nochzwei

We are beings who have the ability to think critically, that is a God given ability. The system the bible portrays is totally illogical and not based on any real-world evidence. If you choose to accept that the system god set up in the bible is true without questioning it, you are ignoring your God given ability to think critically.