Christianity is a death cult

All beliefs that tell us that death is better than life,
are death cults/ extortion rackets in my opinion.

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Tangerine

matthew, mark, luke and john. in the gospels, matthew, mark, luke and john. wrote in their lifetimes. not published till around AD 200.

jesus was esu (a title meaning he was the horus (son of god), the egyptian-greek jewish son of cleopatra and the last pharaoh of egypt. he was a descendant of king david via the ptolemy line of cleopatra. he was heir to the throne of israel and egypt, and technically, had julius caesar (his adoptive father) not been murdered, he would've been heir to the throne of rome as well (there's a bit of an argument on that one, however, which is later evidenced by octavian hunting him in an effort to kill any potential contender to the throne).

have you heard of the lost years of jesus?
reluctant-messenger.com...

I'm surprised that you don't know that the Gospels were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke nor John. Those names were added by a Bishop in the second century. The earliest of the gospels wasn't written until two generations after Jesus and the disciples allegedly lived. The last, the Book of John, was written around 110 AD.

You can tell me Jesus was an alien for all I care. You don't have an iota of contemporaneous documentation proving that he ever lived--anywhere. Not a word was written about him until two generations after he allegedly lived. If you can prove otherwise, name the specific document, the author and the date it was written and what it says. Keep in mind that only contemporaneous documentation proves that someone actually lived. An example would be someone who lived when Jesus allegedly lived who wrote that s/he witnessed Jesus living.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Tangerine

I didn't mention the ritual cannibalism. Someone else did. But protestants take communion, too.

When someone makes a claim of fact (ie. God exists), the onus is on them to prove it with testable evidence.

It's the Christians who constantly claim that someone else who claims to be a Christian isn't a real Christian.

Using your logic of proving what you have claimed Can you say with 100 percent certainty that science willnot find proof of Gods existence? remember its up to you to prove he does not butwith current technology that might not be possible. SO what happens when you cannot prove something defintly? Its left for another time isnt it? Currently it would be a theory right?

But as we all know theories do not mean proven.

Also The people can claim to be christians but its their actions that show if they truly are. SO its not always as you say about someone being able to tell who is who right?


@enlightened. no i wont summarize it for you. stop being lazy and read it . lol

Apparently, you're unaware that it's impossible to prove a negative. If you claim a positive (ie. God exists) it's up to you to cite testable evidence proving your claim of fact. It is not assumed that somewhere, sometime someone will come up with that testable evidence so you can make the claim now. It's up to you now to prove it.

Apparently, you're also unaware that a scientific theorum (ie. theory) is based on testable evidence and is fact. You are confusing theory with hypothesis. It is your hypothesis that God exists. You have failed to cite testable evidence proving it and, thus, it is not fact.

a reply to: Tangerine

Those names were added by a Bishop in the second century.

based on what?

did you know there was a pharaoh named Ptolemy XV ?

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Tangerine

Those names were added by a Bishop in the second century.

based on what?

did you know there was a pharaoh named Ptolemy XV ?

Bishop Eusebius of Caesarea (c. 260-340) wrote a ten-volume History of the Church and named the Gospels.

Yes.

a reply to: Tangerine

ptolemy XV was jesus.

he had a step sister named selene. she was magdalene. magdalene had a twin brother. he was jesus step brother, thomas.
he was named "king of kings"
one of his many titles was Living Image of Amen
and Sun of Righteousness

esu is an egyptian title for the horus (son of god), but is also the word jesus. a variant of that is isa or issa.
jesus referred to himself as the alpha and the omega (the first (pharaoh) and the last (pharaoh))
there are thousands of hints, all thru out the text, not just of the new testament, but also the old.

i have a thread on this subject, referring to the account that says he was killed by octavian, which i think is incorrect since octavian wrote the history at the time, and that cleopatra commited suicide, which i believe is incorrect, as i think she sent esu to israel via the silk route, to save his life, and then later, met him there as well, after faking her own death. she's the virgin mary (that is to say, she's the virgin isis).

the woman in this video suggests that octavian killed her because the clues didn't make sense. i think that's because it wasn't cleopatra. she faked the whole thing and escaped to israel (her ancestory is in the line of king david, who was himself, a pharaoh, as was his son, solomon (see pharaoh siamun).



several patriarchs were pharaohs . for some reason, this is hidden in the text of the old testament

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Tangerine

ptolemy XV was jesus.

he had a step sister named selene. she was magdalene. magdalene had a twin brother. he was jesus step brother, thomas.
he was named "king of kings"
one of his many titles was Living Image of Amen
and Sun of Righteousness

esu is an egyptian title for the horus (son of god), but is also the word jesus. a variant of that is isa or issa.
jesus referred to himself as the alpha and the omega (the first (pharaoh) and the last (pharaoh))
there are thousands of hints, all thru out the text, not just of the new testament, but also the old.

i have a thread on this subject, referring to the account that says he was killed by octavian, which i think is incorrect since octavian wrote the history at the time, and that cleopatra commited suicide, which i believe is incorrect, as i think she sent esu to israel via the silk route, to save his life, and then later, met him there as well, after faking her own death. she's the virgin mary (that is to say, she's the virgin isis).

OK, you've made quite a few claims. Where is the actual contemporaneous documentation proving your claims of fact?

a reply to: Tangerine

did you watch the cleopatra video? it mentions the only sources describing the death of esu (caesarian): plutarch and cassius dio. problem is, as the researcher in the cleopatra video is describing, the death of cleopatra is incredibly suspect and this may have been the result of who was in charge when the events were compiled, namely octavian.

for example, in plutarch's version, cleo sends esu to india on the silk route, via ethiopia, where octavian supposedly has someone to convince him to return to egypt where he will be given his mother's throne. but in cassius dio's version, octavian kills him along the road to ethiopia. these accounts appear to be in disagreement with each other. same as octavian's version of what happened to cleopatra.

and as the link to the lost years of jesus, suggest that jesus did indeed make it to india and tibet.

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Tangerine

did you watch the cleopatra video? it mentions the only sources describing the death of esu (caesarian): plutarch and cassius dio. problem is, as the researcher in the cleopatra video is describing, the death of cleopatra is incredibly suspect and this may have been the result of who was in charge when the events were compiled, namely octavian.

for example, in plutarch's version, cleo sends esu to india on the silk route, via ethiopia, where octavian supposedly has someone to convince him to return to egypt where he will be given his mother's throne. but in cassius dio's version, octavian kills him along the road to ethiopia. these accounts appear to be in disagreement with each other. same as octavian's version of what happened to cleopatra.

You haven't cited an iota of contemporaneous documentation proving that Jesus ever lived. You're talking about a far-fetched hypothesis based on no contemporaneous documentation whatsoever. You may as well be claiming that Jesus was an extraterrestrial. Do you not understand what is meant by contemporaneous documentation? I'd be happy to explain again.

a reply to: Tangerine

sure, explain why egyptian history is not sufficient evidence.

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Tangerine

sure, explain why egyptian history is not sufficient evidence.

Cite an example of contemporaneous Egyptian documentation proving that Jesus lived. I'm unaware of any such documentation in Egyptian history so I can't answer until I see some.

originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Tangerine

sure, explain why egyptian history is not sufficient evidence.

Cite an example of contemporaneous Egyptian documentation proving that Jesus lived. I'm unaware of any such documentation in Egyptian history so I can't answer until I see some.

well if cleopatra's son was jesus, then there you go. you need me to prove cleopatra had a son named esu? it's a religious title, mind you, as she was personified as isis and her son, as horus (esu). the full title was something like, mesu of aset. or to be more specific, mesu of asir (although i think that title is much older than pharaonic egypt and probably stems from hayah)

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

This is why I am glad I'm atheist... I don't have to worry about this stuff and still have morals. I don't worship anyone except the guitar gods like dime bag Darrel.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

You must have forgotten to include the source for the above quote. Would you care to give your source?

a reply to: Tangerine

Here's video that explains the bare bones of the theory of Jesus being the son of Cleopatra. There's historic facts and conjecture, but its just as valid a theory as any, in my opinion.

a reply to: windword

yeah that excerpt is from a longer video series called the ring of power. the section on jesus is really bolstered by how cleo's children all end up together in israel and how the history of the family can be traced over generations, starting with the events prior to the hyksos expulsion.

what the video doesn't outline or even entertain, is the likelihood that cleopatra didn't actually kill herself, as the video i linked above, about cleopatra, suggests. it's entirely possible marc antony didn't commit suicide either, which means they may have taken on jewish names when they fled to israel, and were the "mary and joseph" of the biblical account.

there's still one gaping hole in this info, which i'm trying to figure out. no luck yet.

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: windword

yeah that excerpt is from a longer video series called the ring of power. the section on jesus is really bolstered by how cleo's children all end up together in israel and how the history of the family can be traced over generations, starting with the events prior to the hyksos expulsion.

what the video doesn't outline or even entertain, is the likelihood that cleopatra didn't actually kill herself, as the video i linked above, about cleopatra, suggests. it's entirely possible marc antony didn't commit suicide either, which means they may have taken on jewish names when they fled to israel, and were the "mary and joseph" of the biblical account.

there's still one gaping hole in this info, which i'm trying to figure out. no luck yet.

so you think that mary, joseph, and jesus were merely aliases for renowned egyptian figures.

if this is what actually happened, why cover it up?

originally posted by: rom12345
All beliefs that tell us that death is better than life,
are death cults/ extortion rackets in my opinion.

What?

Christianity is about eternal life.

“I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever”

Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.

For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.

And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Jesus said , “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die;

The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.

Revelation 22

Eden Restored
Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.