HUGE event just happened in Missouri !:13 pm 2/3/14

captb13
There is absolutly nothing that the OP can do to prove this happened that would be accepted by everyone here.

Moot point.

We were told by a mod not to expect proof in this forum so now I think most of us have turned to trying to figure out what happened if whatever happened was abnormal.

Earthquake report - Pretty sure that MO from today is later that Antar's sighting.



Twitter feed capture taken earlier on today while following this thread. (It took me awhile to catch up!)


Personally Antar I believe you saw it. Sleep well tonight and wake up fresh in the morning. Maybe some small details will become more clear....

Witness2008
reply to post by DeadSeraph

 

Was reading your links, and I really don't think that where Antar is located is remote enough to be shooting down drones. If it is, I would have to question the wisdom of the military minds in charge.

I guess the only way to confirm that would be to find out what air force policy is in that regard, and if it's classified or not. Personally, it seems like a more realistic scenario than UFO's being shot down by conventional air force jets.

Has the OP reported the incident to 911?

Has the OP contacted NASA??

Has the OP walked into a physician's or emergency room to be evaluated for the sudden unknown radiation exposure? Even photothermal damage is radiation.

www.earthfiles.com...

reply to post by opethPA


Now Opeth, I said no such thing. I reposted what is sticky'ed to the top of this forum list as the intro. In that, it says this forum is one where proof may not be available. It's the spot to come if you don't have pics, or it was just you when something happened.

It's not that proof can't be supplied, I'd think. It's just that proof being demanded as a condition of acceptance, as is the norm in most places, isn't the case here. (Or Skunk Works)

Of course, that's reading the forum intro myself. (and I really did re-read it to refresh my own memory before sharing it before)

reply to post by captb13


If she wanted to she could perhaps get a camera and post a picture of her burnt face, even if she said she didn't have a camera when it happened.

My suggestions weren't to make ''all of ATS believe'' but a gentle suggestion that MORE accounts or some sort of validation or detail would be called for for any belief at all, even a sketch of the event or incident including height, shape etc of alleged UFO and type of aircraft identification would be necessary for establishing more facts, which, whether you or anyone else likes it or not, would be essential in any serious incident report of such a nature.

If it was a real UFO or even a missile or military action and it burnt her face she would need to answer a whole load more questions from any authorities should she want answers from them, and most people would.

Has she contacted any authorities, did they say anything etc, all are things that count as DETAILS.

Put it this way, if I just seen something like that I would be all out for finding answers and getting ID on the planes and their origin would be a priority.

How do you expect the world to take such sightings seriously when people like you are saying ''oh well whatever she can just say it and that's all that's needed'' because it isn't, so put your blinkers back on and lets hear some details.

If you want fuzzy frou frou ''omg I just saw a UFO'' nonsense you will find youtube a vast resource of those.

The more serious believers in UFO and even skeptics here at ATS should and do expect more.

Neopan100
Im not an expert on twitter..but #loudBOOM tweets are coming in from

South Carolina
Virginia
Orlando, FL
Arkansas
and Missouri

all in the past 1/2 hour...so really..what's up?

I just looked. The last tweet I saw was Jan 30. Please copy/paste or provide a link!

david hand ‏@dhand Jan 30
Sounds like artillery practice out in the swamp flatlands east of Lake Hart. Multiple booms. My windows are rattling #loudboom

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

* A good rule of thumb is Missouri is if you're off the Interstate, you've left major civilization. If you're off US highways as well? Just be thankful Missourians didn't like Deliverance either. We're good folk.

I loves Missouri. I'm looking to buy property up closer to the lakes in the next couple of years.

Missourians are great folks, well 95% of them are....I take it you have never spent time in Reynolds county.

Im wondering if its just some test flight gone abit wrong.

Maybe the test drone lost control hense why it ended up off range with the jets trailing it?

Doubt its aliens

totallackey

tigertatzen

post a pic of the burns,the forehead or a cheek,the lack of these pics raises questions.

reply to post by sparky31

 

Pretty sure she stated at the beginning that she does not have a camera or a camera-phone or a camcorder, or a webcam. This thread is getting derailed over and over again by people who are asking for pictures as "proof" of her claim. So here's some food for thought:

I am a make-up artist, and I can tell you right now that asking for a picture of the burned area would NOT constitute any type of verifiable proof. I could make someone look as if they suffered a burn in about 5 minutes with some ordinary makeup, and you would not be able to tell the difference. Sorry, but not having a picture of her scorched face does not make her story any less true, and it is patently silly for anyone to suggest otherwise. Not to mention blatant harassment, seeing as how she already told everyone that she does not own any devices of that type. I don't have a camera or a cell phone or a webcam, nor have I ever owned a television. There are in fact people out here in the world who don't have all the cool technological toys at their disposal.

Horse hockey...the OP has a long history here and any photographic evidence would be just as accepted the written word...right? Furthermore, this could finally help solidify the entire issue of what happened and mysterious lights and mysterious booms and mysterious flying objects and mysterious burns resulting from exposure...

I don't think that how many posts anyone has makes him/her/it more credible than others...I've been a member for a couple of years but don't have too many OP's under my belt simply because I do not have the time to spend online that others do. But i do agree with the assessment of some others who have stated they would vouch for Antar, and i have to say I am like-minded, because over time you figure out who is trustworthy on this site and who isn't. I believe her...if she says she saw it, she damn well saw it.

Like my boss says..."Never trust, always verify."

Lol...not sure if you're arguing with me or agreeing with me. If you're saying that my assertion about the makeup is "horse hockey" (love that, by the way), I can assure you it is not. I do theatrical makeup...could make a person look burned, cut, scraped, deformed...zombie-ish, you name it. Just like in the movies. And you would not be able to tell from a photograph whether or not it was real. I am simply saying that photos are not necessarily proof that her face was burned.

I personally do not need to have concrete proof of something in order to believe it is true. That's where faith comes in...if any of her previous postings gave me reason to disbelieve her, then I would have stated that just the same. There are plenty of members whose stories I could definitively say I would take with a healthy grain of salt, trust me. But she is not one of them. My belief of her account aside, simply having a photo of her face would hardly be enough to solidify anything or make her story more factual because it is something that could easily be faked.

Since she doesn't have the means to provide us with photographic evidence, however, it becomes a moot point. As I stated; it's food for thought. So in the absence of definitive proof, I am basing my belief in her story on the fact that she hasn't ditched the thread and is still actively participating and answering questions, she has done a lot of posting in the past and has numerous people vouching for her credibility aside from myself, she recounted what happened in exceptional detail even though she was obviously rattled about it, and her story has not wavered even though it's been several hours since the event. Continuing to berate her for not providing photos is ridiculous. She stated right away that she has no means to provide pictures, yet people keep insisting that if she posted a photo, everything else would not matter and she would be believed. That is just silly.

Wrabbit2000
It's not that proof can't be supplied, I'd think. It's just that proof being demanded as a condition of acceptance, as is the norm in most places, isn't the case here. (Or Skunk Works)

Agreed, in this forum proof is not needed so that is why I gave up on asking for it and I am now trying to piece together what Antar experienced.

The most likely outcome is something benign like a military exercise which isn't hard to imagine given the description she gave.
The more paranormal explanation is a UFO being shot out of the sky.

My guess is that is much closer to the first item listed but their simply isn't enough info to say for sure.

reply to post by crazyewok


Exactly it could have been anything, a plane explosion, a missile explosion or unintentional deployment, an ejector seat, a training mission, many things that are explainable, hence the need for DETAILS.

Just thought I'd post some info regarding the nearby air base:

Whiteman AFB

According to wikipedia (crappy source I know), Whiteman doesn't house any F-22's/F-35's or even any of the other fighters I asked the OP to look at earlier.

There is a B2 squadron that flies out of Whiteman:



as well as A-10's:



and t-38 trainers:



I suppose it's possible the Jet's the OP claims to have seen came from a different air force base and might have been stationed at whiteman for exercises.

reply to post by DeadSeraph


The A-10 is capable of flying in a circular pattern and deploying a large amount of ammunition. Its a flying war fortress.

A mundane explanation, no matter how tenuous, could be at hand here.

i,m not asking for anything that i haven,t been pulled up myself about,what cause shes a regular poster shes exempt from providing some proof about it?all i,ve got is cause she said it then it must be true.

everyones quick in saying proof or it aint true to most of the other posters on here,why is this one different?

Also theop needs to go to the ER right now,

If radiation exposure the damage it caused that quick would be bad, very very bad.

Wow 20 pages already! This sounds pretty exciting and maybe scary too. Hope to hear more soon.

Antar, I'd be careful about trying to communicate with aliens. You never know what the buggers are up to. Could be the good guys, could be the bad guys. I don't think I'd want to take that chance of finding out which ones they are. Ya know?

Night Star
Wow 20 pages already! This sounds pretty exciting and maybe scary too.o Hope to hear more soon.

Antar, I'd be careful about trying to communicate with aliens. You never know what the buggers are up to. Could be the good guys, could be the bad guys. I don't think I'd want to take that chance of finding out which ones they are. Ya know?

edit on 3-2-2014 by Night Star because: (no reason given)

Or they wernt aliens and its just a test flight of something gone wrong.

Just cause somethings odd dont mean its aliens.......

Is it the same Springfield MO that houses the National Guard Aviation Company?

en.wikipedia.org...

www.moguard.com...

The MO Air National Guard is composed of the following units:[3]

Headquarters, Missouri Air National Guard
131st Bomb Wing - Headquartered at Whiteman AFB. The unit is in a classic affiliation with the 509th Bomb Wing and operates the Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit aircraft. The unit was formerly located at Lambert St. Louis Airport until BRAC shut down operations there.

139th Airlift Wing - Headquartered at Rosecrans Memorial Airport (Lockheed C-130 Hercules)

157th Air Operations Group - Headquartered at Jefferson Barracks

At Whiteman AH-64 Apache are used armed with aerial fin rockets, perhaps it was one of these that deployed, either intentionally as a training exercise or unintentionally.

www.moguard.com...

bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by DeadSeraph

 

The A-10 is capable of flying in a circular pattern and deploying a large amount of ammunition. Its a flying war fortress.

A mundane explanation, no matter how tenuous, could be at hand here.

I'm inclined to agree. The OP identified the f-22 as being similar to the jets she said she saw but no f-22 squadrons are stationed at whiteman AFB. It's possible a squadron could be there on a training exercise, however. Of the 3 types of jets stationed at whiteman AFB, only the t-38 trainer is capable of breaking the sound barrier.