HUGE event just happened in Missouri !:13 pm 2/3/14

tigertatzen

post a pic of the burns,the forehead or a cheek,the lack of these pics raises questions.

reply to post by sparky31

 

Pretty sure she stated at the beginning that she does not have a camera or a camera-phone or a camcorder, or a webcam. This thread is getting derailed over and over again by people who are asking for pictures as "proof" of her claim. So here's some food for thought:

I am a make-up artist, and I can tell you right now that asking for a picture of the burned area would NOT constitute any type of verifiable proof. I could make someone look as if they suffered a burn in about 5 minutes with some ordinary makeup, and you would not be able to tell the difference. Sorry, but not having a picture of her scorched face does not make her story any less true, and it is patently silly for anyone to suggest otherwise. Not to mention blatant harassment, seeing as how she already told everyone that she does not own any devices of that type. I don't have a camera or a cell phone or a webcam, nor have I ever owned a television. There are in fact people out here in the world who don't have all the cool technological toys at their disposal.

Horse hockey...the OP has a long history here and any photographic evidence would be just as accepted the written word...right? Furthermore, this could finally help solidify the entire issue of what happened and mysterious lights and mysterious booms and mysterious flying objects and mysterious burns resulting from exposure...

I don't think that how many posts anyone has makes him/her/it more credible than others...I've been a member for a couple of years but don't have too many OP's under my belt simply because I do not have the time to spend online that others do. But i do agree with the assessment of some others who have stated they would vouch for Antar, and i have to say I am like-minded, because over time you figure out who is trustworthy on this site and who isn't. I believe her...if she says she saw it, she damn well saw it.

Like my boss says..."Never trust, always verify."

reply to post by DeadSeraph


I've been following this thread all day and I have to agree that this forum is a place for peoples experiences, not for people demanding absolute proof. I dont know the OP, but if she truely believes she saw something, then she did.

As for the jets practicing, there is really no such thing as a dogfight anymore. In air to air combat these days, with all the satellite tech, gps, radar, and computers, enemy planes will be taken out from miles away, long before they even see each other.

1. Object destroyed by planes.
2. Her face was burned or at least left with a red color.
3. Doesn't seem likely the burns on her neck or face were caused by jets as the low level at which they would have to fly would cause other problems or leave other signs of flying so low.
4. From what I can read no debris from a destroyed craft.
5. Warbling metallic object
6. Pursued by 5 planes.
7. Loud sound event
8. No reports anywhere else yet.
9. Rural area where it is possible no one else saw it.
10. Military base not far from the area.

reply to post by antar


there were no reports made to mufon.

why didn't you?

what was the object's size in comparison to the jets?

what shape was it?

what color was it?

was it emitting any light at all?

So are you the only witness to this event still?

Did you feel the boom? Like feel it in your chest like when you feel bass from a sub woofer?

If so then perhaps you could contact a seismologist in your area if there is one? The weather station to verify if they have equipment that could of recorded/tracked this?

Pics of your burnt face?

AngryScotsman

WilsonWilson
I thought this was an open forum, what has being a long term member or being new got to do with it, surely everybody should face the same questions?

Antar has CREDIBILITY, that's what it's got to do with it.

aww come on thats like saying tom hanks has credibility so we should just go with it. ok antar may have seen something. lets all just stop the cheerleading and try to move the thread along.

captb13
reply to post by DeadSeraph

 

I've been following this thread all day and I have to agree that this forum is a place for peoples experiences, not for people demanding absolute proof. I dont know the OP, but if she truely believes she saw something, then she did.

As for the jets practicing, there is really no such thing as a dogfight anymore. In air to air combat these days, with all the satellite tech, gps, radar, and computers, enemy planes will be taken out from miles away, long before they even see each other.

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bitsforbytes
So are you the only witness to this event still?

Did you feel the boom? Like feel it in your chest like when you feel bass from a sub woofer?

If so then perhaps you could contact a seismologist in your area if there is one? The weather station to verify if they have equipment that could of recorded/tracked this?

Pics of your burnt face?

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Lots to read here, for sure. long story short: i don't think she wants to provide pics, which could be faked anyway. I don't think she wants anyone to believe her, as she saw what she saw whether we believe her or not. There have been some reports posted in the last 19 pages, but nothing that tightly links up the story.

antar
reply to post by thesaneone

 

The Jets were coming in from several directions all aiming at the metallic object. Once the object dissipated and the Halo began, they flew off. They were incoming from all directions towards the object. I feel sorry for it. I have never seen jets fly that fast, that low at that speed or towards one another. It was pure experience.

Is the area known for military exercises?

Could it be possible that it could be an errant ballistic missile of sorts, intercepted, or something else, perhaps an asteroid or foreign object intercepted by a missile causing such an explosion?

Also, are there other dwellings and businesses in the area that would have seen the event, news reports etc would confirm this or even tweets / facebook entries from your friends or neighbours in the area?

Are you able to post a picture of your burnt face?

Either of the suggestions above would give some credence to this story.

DeadSeraph

smurfy
Jet pilots are not going to do target practice over a populated area, nor are they going to chase anything sonic in practice over a populated area, and since they would need to be beyond the sound barrier themselves. But it does seem that something, (the object) was pursued, and attacked or disabled in some way, and in Antar's words it 'dissipated', although that it dissipated wasn't clear in the first post.
Antar also say's her face felt like it was burning, (I would advise a trip to the doctor for that) and that's about it.
Time to go and figure it out in the real world for starters, and in the absence of any other witneses so far.
There is no proper reason then, to call BS as an answer to anything, because the reality is we don't know what happened, except in the way it was given. If you don't like the way it was given, figure out a possible scenario in your own terms.

OP claims the event occurred within one mile of her location, and that she is 45 miles north of springfield missouri. Looking at google maps, that does not appear to be a highly populated area at all and is surrounded by 4 state parks. Looks like the boonies to me. Maybe the OP could confirm.

Edit to add:

Also interesting to note that Whiteman AFB is north of that location.

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All well and good, this is what I am talking about. But, the rules are no sonic booms over continental US, however spacecraft are exempt, even so NASA has, or is working on efficiency projects that would reduce sonic booms, whether that is more to an Earth based commercial supersonic enterprise, (since Concorde is extant) or to improve spaceflight, (not so likely) but knowing that, just means more digging. There are also private jet enterprises that would wish to go supersonic, and are most likely doing the stuff, making the booms more quiet and more fuel efficiency from the wing design, and that sort of thing goes back 40 years or more...so more digging required by all. Thing is for this thread, sonic booms are not a singular event, they continue as long as an aircraft flies supersonic, that's something else to consider here.

No reports still which kind of makes this giant thread interesting, because so far we only have one very established ATS member who has witnessed it?

Hopefully if true she has gone to seek medical help about the burn.

By tomorrow this case could be put to bed or debated into the future, exciting stuff!

reply to post by Witness2008

It has been stated in this thread several times that military exercises over central Missouri are fairly frequent, so most residents would think nothing of the noise, (maybe some irritation), and may not even look up. Filing complaints or reports, tweeting or face booking such activity every time it happened would be kinda silly.

That about sums it up. If you look at a map of Missouri, draw the line along I-70 from Kansas City to St Louis. Above and below that line from Des Moines to the Arkansas State line ..and more properly, the suburbs of Little Rock..there is nothing for large cities anywhere except Springfield in the south. Plenty of towns including Branson ..which is off season and adds even more appeal to training this time of year as opposed to the in-season when every 2 lane is crawling with tourists. No other real cities though. Nothing like the East or West coast could imagine as a city, to be sure.

I think you get far more remote to the East of Springfield and out to the I-55 North/South line. Some areas out there (I've been across there twice in a truck on rural roads) are so remote, you could literally hide for years in the woods and probably not be bothered.

* A good rule of thumb is Missouri is if you're off the Interstate, you've left major civilization. If you're off US highways as well? Just be thankful Missourians didn't like Deliverance either. We're good folk.

Goodness!
This turned into a sock-palooza pretty fast! Two posters who have the same join date & low post count? Jeeze!!

Antar deserves some respect. She has never cried wolf before and something happened to her.
I'll wait for her to come back.

bitsforbytes
So are you the only witness to this event still?

Did you feel the boom? Like feel it in your chest like when you feel bass from a sub woofer?

If so then perhaps you could contact a seismologist in your area if there is one? The weather station to verify if they have equipment that could of recorded/tracked this?

Pics of your burnt face?

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It has already been dicussed multiple times that the OP doesnt have a way to take picture for us.

But if she did, what then. I may be a recent member to ATS, but I have been coming to this site since at least 2008. When someone posts a pic as proof, its immedietly analyzed and deemed a fake (like tigers point about makeup looking like burns) by just as many people requesting pictures here. There is absolutly nothing that the OP can do to prove this happened that would be accepted by everyone here.

reply to post by LeviWardrobe


Yeh, it was back up and running when I checked it 5mins later.

beezzer
Based on the reaction of this thread, if I saw something out of the ordinary, I'd be reluctant to share it.

On a conspiracy site no less!

Exactly. Between this thread and the Tara people thread, good chance any potential new members have been scared off. I know Antar wont shake easily to criticism,but others are sensitive and ridicule can destroy the best story which may in fact be true.

reply to post by DeadSeraph



Was reading your links, and I really don't think that where Antar is located is remote enough to be shooting down drones. If it is, I would have to question the wisdom of the military minds in charge.