HUGE event just happened in Missouri !:13 pm 2/3/14

Andthe USAF are testing out a brand new propulsion device so id expect some odd sights and sounds around the USA like the B2 and F117 caused before they went public. And the jist i got was they may be putting it on drones so id expect a few crashes and misshaps too.

Just noticed this, & wow, just wow, lots of traffic...

Mods, could someone confirm if the OP was originally placed in Gray Area?

This might help additionally combat some of the posters commenting on this thread...

Many thanks

theabsolutetruth
reply to post by captb13

 

If she wanted to she could perhaps get a camera and post a picture of her burnt face, even if she said she didn't have a camera when it happened.

My suggestions weren't to make ''all of ATS believe'' but a gentle suggestion that MORE accounts or some sort of validation or detail would be called for for any belief at all, even a sketch of the event or incident including height, shape etc of alleged UFO and type of aircraft identification would be necessary for establishing more facts, which, whether you or anyone else likes it or not, would be essential in any serious incident report of such a nature.

If it was a real UFO or even a missile or military action and it burnt her face she would need to answer a whole load more questions from any authorities should she want answers from them, and most people would.

Has she contacted any authorities, did they say anything etc, all are things that count as DETAILS.

Put it this way, if I just seen something like that I would be all out for finding answers and getting ID on the planes and their origin would be a priority.

How do you expect the world to take such sightings seriously when people like you are saying ''oh well whatever she can just say it and that's all that's needed'' because it isn't, so put your blinkers back on and lets hear some details.

If you want fuzzy frou frou ''omg I just saw a UFO'' nonsense you will find youtube a vast resource of those.

The more serious believers in UFO and even skeptics here at ATS should and do expect more.

edit on 3-2-2014 by theabsolutetruth because: (no reason given)

I'm not saying that I accept her word as proof that this happened. Im saying that theres is absolutly nothing she can do to satisfy everyone here. She posts her story, and people demand pics, if she posted pics, many would say they were faked by photoshop/makeup/something naturally occuring. If she posted video, the same thing would happen.

If every world leader went on tv and provided proof, released every record of every encounter, battle, and had alien ships hovering over every damn city on the planet, and a few ETs standing next to them saying, "Hi! We're real and here we are!" People would still complain that its a false flag, its computer generated, its a conspiracy to cover such and such a thing up.

DeadSeraph

bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by DeadSeraph

 

The A-10 is capable of flying in a circular pattern and deploying a large amount of ammunition. Its a flying war fortress.

A mundane explanation, no matter how tenuous, could be at hand here.

I'm inclined to agree. The OP identified the f-22 as being similar to the jets she said she saw but no f-22 squadrons are stationed at whiteman AFB. It's possible a squadron could be there on a training exercise, however. Of the 3 types of jets stationed at whiteman AFB, only the t-38 trainer is capable of breaking the sound barrier.

The sound barrier doesn't need to be broken for a loud boom. Just a large canon firing in the air.

While the a-10 won't be confused for a jet by someone who knows planes (not me...i really don't know very much at all), to a person not familiar it has that general appearance. Then again, an escort in an exercise is most likely.

sparky31
i,m not asking for anything that i haven,t been pulled up myself about,what cause shes a regular poster shes exempt from providing some proof about it?all i,ve got is cause she said it then it must be true.

everyones quick in saying proof or it aint true to most of the other posters on here,why is this one different?

How is it that Antar is any different? You're the one painting her as different.

There are plenty of folks not only questioning but making insinuations as to her trustworthiness. Pretty much happens to everyone here that has or will witness something extraordinary, and then post it for us.

Personally I am happy to see the wagons circling around this claim, as I and many others understand that first hand accounts from well known credible sources are some of the best evidence that we have.

BurningSpearess


Mods, could someone confirm if the OP was originally placed in Gray Area?

This might help additionally combat some the posters commenting on this thread...

Many thanks

edit on 3-2-2014 by BurningSpearess because: bold emphasis

It was not originally placed in Gray Area.

Illuminawty
reply to post by antar

 

Kids and their drugs.

Are you talking about the OP or about the Air Force pilots and their reckless maneuvers?

reply to post by DeadSeraph


McConnell AFB in Wichita, KS, is within that range. I think they still have a fighter group stationed there.

reply to post by captb13


Thanks for that.

I didn't ask her for PROOF, just DETAILS, which is very normal for such supposed sightings.

there hve been absolutely NO Other reports/// in the alternative reporting news or the MSM...

a singular sighting of a AWESOME event tends to be very-very.... subjective
(not a hoax... but very real to the observer...but not an authentic event in the eyes of other sober people)


too much wasted time & member traffic on this item

reply to post by antar


Its likely just catch-up with the Russians and Chinese Plasma engine tests. E.G. The Norway spiral and related Chinese UFO's.

How close to Lebanon are you Antar?

I live about 100 miles Southwest of Antar.
All was calm here today. Of course I was inside all day busy so any booms may have gone unnoticed here.

I didn't read all 21 pages. I guess the consensus is a military training exercise? I thought it was against regs to break the sound barrier under a certain altitude and over populated areas. Strange stuff.
Also strange that the jets seemed to converge at a point.

Also, as has been well established, Antar is a long time member in good standing here.

Perhaps next time instead of criticizing the OP's character we can address the claims on their merit??

"Pics or it didn't happen" is freaking lame

reply to post by Doodle19815


Antar is 45 miles north of Springfield and Lebanon is roughly 55 miles East of Springfield.

reply to post by JayinAR


It isn't about a persons 'ATS cred' it's about facts and DETAILS.

Fuzzy accounts of very little information does nothing for validating seeing something ''odd''.

It could be easily explained as a non UFO which is the point of the questions.

This sort of clique mentality on ATS is it's downfall, 82 flags for a thread called a ''HUGE event'' that no one else in MO seen or reported so far and not even a sketch of the ''HUGE event'' that mentions seeing a ''UFO''.

Maybe you believe anything you hear or trust in those you don't know at all, but I do not and nor do many others, IMO it's entirely LOGICAL to QUESTION something to get the facts.

ETA for the record there are thousands of corrupt people including politicians that are termed ''long term members of good standing'', I refrain from buying their snake oil.

JayinAR

Also, as has been well established, Antar is a long time member in good standing here.

Perhaps next time instead of criticizing the OP's character we can address the claims on their merit??

"Pics or it didn't happen" is freaking lame

Was going to say the same thing.

CX.

xavi1000

BurningSpearess


Mods, could someone confirm if the OP was originally placed in Gray Area?

This might help additionally combat some the posters commenting on this thread...

Many thanks

edit on 3-2-2014 by BurningSpearess because: bold emphasis

It was not originally placed in Gray Area.

It was originally posted in Fragile Earth and was moved to the more applicable forum as a routine matter, like we do many times a day.

But then none of that is really relevant *except* that the Terms and Conditions of ATS require civility and decorum within ALL topics, in ALL forums.

Any further off topic disruption, personal jabs or site slagging may result in post bans and/or temporary thread closure.

reply to post by kosmicjack

Ok, i was just replying on another member.

I don't really know you personally, and I can't 100% support what you saw since I was not there, however I can support it to an extent.

I believe you because of how you explained what you had saw, how you interpreted it, and how it made you feel.
You used the phrase "they know" which hit home for me. This is the EXACT phrase that came to mind after I saw my "UFO" - - They DO know (and this phrase does not suggest paranoia or grandeur in this context, in fact, the increased use of the word grandeur by non-witnesses lately has been pissing me off)

You knew they knew because of first hand witnessing the aircrafts acknowledgment of the object.
I knew "they knew" about what I saw too after witnessing a helicopter scope out the exact area the next day at which the event took place.

I also believe your account as you are clearly very upset about what you saw, but at the same time stating at times that you want to see it again. These are similar to the mixed feelings I had when I saw something this extraordinary.
It's different for everyone, but there's a chance you might develop some degree of PTSD because of what you saw. This is not fun.

I also tend to believe your account as you mentioned trying to tell what you saw in your head that you wanted to help them. When I saw what I saw I also said things to it in my head. The only difference between your account and mine in this aspect was that the communication was mutual, as opposed to yours was just you trying to communicate non verbally. Both indicate that non verbal communication took place, which seems to be a recurring theme that takes place in these scenarios.

And to be honest It's to some degree ludicrous that people are willing to side with you just based on the fact that you're not a new member of the site. Which I don't think has anything to do with this negatively or positively one way or another.

With that said, and as I've said above, I do believe you (as much as I can without having been there)
So now you know these things do indeed happen, and I'm very happy that you have been able to come forward and account for these things happening and you can be added to the list of witness accounts, if in fact you did see a disk-shaped object being pursued, which you said you definitely did. We have no reason to call you a liar. The most important part is that YOUknow what you saw. That is all that matters. and with that being said, this makes what other people think or say mostly irrelevant.
You know what you saw.

We need this. We need more of this.

But, on another note, I'm also sorry that you saw this.

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Extra reading: Loud Booms in Clintonville, WI
There was a phase of these "loud booms" that took place approx 4 hours SE of where I'm located in March of 2012