Rendlesham Forest…, A Christmas Story from 1980 - Can We ‘Let it Be’?

originally posted by: mirageman

Except LaPlume's sighting was later in January than the 9th. According to Georgina Bruni's book it was the 16th & 17th Jan 1981. There's a reasonably accurate timeline here : bentwaters1980.proboards.com...

I was trying to remember where the 9th January date came from, and then it clicked - headlined in another related thread I spotted a couple of months ago, courtesy of poster gortex from information gathered by Moulton-Howe:

LINK: www.abovetopsecret.com...


The 8-year-old thread failed to reach a full page of posts for some reason; I haven't seen the linked videos yet.

This thread will end shortly anyway.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Probably because the source Linda Moulton Howe is one of the worst (self proclaimed) investigative journalists I have ever had the displeasure to listen to.

She tries to revive long debunked stories, passes off faked documents as true, makes unproven claims on her radio show ..and...has...the most...ann..oying...staccato delivery in her voice I have ever heard. She also continually blinks rapidly on camera. A sure sign that she's been under the mind zapping.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Probably because the source Linda Moulton Howe is one of the worst (self proclaimed) investigative journalists I have ever had the displeasure to listen to.

Ha! One reason I never watched the linked vids - more than my patience can muster.

I vowed never to suffer her again after listening to the recent Doty interview where she ultimately proved to be just as untrustworthy as Doty himself. It was a disgrace, frankly. Live and learn, etc.


Who's gonna sweep up when the thread ends, btw?

Will there be a janitor on watch in case something truly anomalous occurs?

Can you risk abandoning it before Lazza's 'Capel Green' is released?

In fact, Arouet's link to the Capel Green-related video has tempted me to watch the sucker, knowing full well I'll be enjoying it with a 10-tonne-truck of salt parked beside me. At this stage, not being sure what to believe about anything anymore in the UFO field, I'm just content to be Entertained!

a reply to: pigsy2400

Interesting post there pigsy. Do go on.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Not sure how to bass,...

In relation to the plasma stealth, if that was a component at all, maybe the effect felt by the airmen was a side effect? What I mean is, a strong magnetic field could have been needed to contain / channel the plasma itself so it didn't destroy itself.....but it ruptured and conatiment was lost?!?

Just thinking out loud more than anything Bass at this point...

a reply to: mirageman

Some interesting information in there MM. Specially the sightings of something and it's flight path.

Shame there isn't more information, if what was seen was something, then maybe a flightpath could be plotted, also taking Rendlesham into account.

I know that's a stretch though....and alot of "ifs"

a reply to: pigsy2400

Funny thing is that at the start of the old "Strange But True" episode there is an account of UFO picked up on radar

LINK

However the radar operator Mal Scurrah made it clear, not long after the programme aired, that he was talking about an incident not related to the Christmas time events at Rendlesham but to a UFO detected some time in October or November 1980. Interesting of course. But not proof of anything.

a reply to: mirageman

The 'hall is West of Rendlesham.....
Return flight would be West to East....

Unless they went up and over Norwich and followed the coast down and came back over land in an westerly direction...

Other black aircraft operated from the 'hall too.....

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Probably because the source Linda Moulton Howe is one of the worst (self proclaimed) investigative journalists I have ever had the displeasure to listen to.

Ha! One reason I never watched the linked vids - more than my patience can muster.

I vowed never to suffer her again after listening to the recent Doty interview where she ultimately proved to be just as untrustworthy as Doty himself. It was a disgrace, frankly. Live and learn, etc.


Who's gonna sweep up when the thread ends, btw?

Will there be a janitor on watch in case something truly anomalous occurs?

Can you risk abandoning it before Lazza's 'Capel Green' is released?

In fact, Arouet's link to the Capel Green-related video has tempted me to watch the sucker, knowing full well I'll be enjoying it with a 10-tonne-truck of salt parked beside me. At this stage, not being sure what to believe about anything anymore in the UFO field, I'm just content to be Entertained!

There are supposed to be more witnneses too.?

originally posted by: Baablacksheep


There are supposed to be more witnneses too.?

Wasn't the recent Rendlesham event supposed to disclose further witnesses? What happened there, apart from another blast of hot air, this time via bagpipes?

Or are the New Witnesses related to Warren/Heseltine's film? I think the latter is promising new, never-seen-before "documents" rather than witnesses IIRC - hopefully not further paperwork to prove Warren's presence at the base; life's too short for that.

I think the new film will be the usual unreliable, hyperbolic tripe, but hopefully Entertaining as a whole - the moody trailer certainly seduces me into thinking it will at least be a diverting work of fiction, if little else.

No doubt The Great Zondo will be overjoyed by my desire for Entertainment.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Wow. You really dont like larry do you?
But you are still prepared to watch his movie for entertainment.
Sorry but this seems twisted.

No nothing more re the Halt that am aware of, others will know more am sure.

There is a radio show John wants us to listen to.

m.facebook.com...

a reply to: Baablacksheep

If there's anything interesting in it let us know. I won't get round to picking up on that for a while.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Baablacksheep

If there's anything interesting in it let us know. I won't get round to picking up on that for a while.

No time Mirageman, my weekend is already planned. Its watching UFOJesus weekend .

Final word (Maybe!) (Posting in segments due to the volume)

I have finally come to a personal conclusion as to what events may have transpired over the course of the RFI. This is not meant to be an answer but may give enough credence when more information on this Precognitive Sentient Intelligence emerges through what in my opinion, will emerge through the various tests/experiments and data collection that are being dealt with by individuals such as Dr Hal Puthoff and being addressed more visually with media such as the new Skinwalker film.

I am sure that questions are popping inside people's heads already after just one paragraph.

A Cloud Buster set up may give enough energy to vibrate the quartz in the area which in turn conjured this Precognitive Sentient Intelligence.

This is the type of Phenomena that used to be or attempted to be summoned by the likes of Aleister Crowley and others, which is a phenomena, which in my opinion has been part of this world since and probably before antiquity.

Ancient Irish stories speak of summoning light beings (from within the earth) to help them overcome the battles with the darker forces trying to eradicate their existence.

Similar stories exist in Native American cultures as well as Chinese ancient cultures as well as European.

The Rubbing a lamp story, creating a static charge, (friction) to conjure a genie can be seen in a whole new light, in the context of what I am writing.

This is where, imo, that the stories of Earth dwellers probably originate from, in a Precognitive Sentient Intelligence context.

I would also like to make clear, that 99 percent of the time, throughout antiquity, much of this apparent communication with balls of bright light, are usually written in text somewhere. At no time does this phenomenon need to use Binary code to convey their apparent messages, as this phenomenon can apparently speak (as in Irish historical texts) any language it desires.

I don’t think the phenomena is using Google Translate to pass on any form of communication.

But…..

What I cannot discount is the link to Euler’s identity due to the following quote and the links between this and the senses that govern things like …

“A study of the brains of sixteen mathematicians found that the "emotional brain" (specifically, the medial orbitofrontal cortex, which lights up for beautiful music, poetry, pictures, etc.) lit up more consistently for Euler's identity than for any other formula.”

This type of result seems consistent in the context of the UAP phenomenon and those that seem to become artists and more awake to the possibility of our full potential and that this world is not the only one.

I would love to ask Dave Gilmour and also due to the distant passing of Mozart!

Stanford University mathematics professor Keith Devlin has said, "like a Shakespearean sonnet that captures the very essence of love, or a painting that brings out the beauty of the human form that is far more than just skin deep, Euler's equation reaches down into the very depths of existence".[5]And Paul Nahin, a professor emeritus at the University of New Hampshire, who has written a book dedicated to Euler's formula and its applications in Fourier analysis, describes Euler's identity as being "of exquisite beauty" en.wikipedia.org...

If not then the only viable option is that while in the light, Jim somehow picked up on a secret frequency, similar to that which Bennewitz picked up via a homemade radar, only this was NSA communications, and Jim somehow channelled this communication?

The true meaning would generally have to be covered up, due to anything that it may be linked to, of a covert NSA comm application that may have links to the National security of today.

The last point I would like to raise is the question of Remote Influence, in the context of leaving ‘residue’ when looking through the eyes of someone, at an event. This I think may be the reasoning behind the Lynn Buchanan Remote view, leaving Jim with the impression that there were time travellers that were interacting with his mind.

Not all these techniques are full proof. We are only now finding proof of these relationships of DNA, THz vibration within Microtubules in the brain and the coupling of these frequencies between the mind, and that which emanates or is part of this phenomena.

One last thing. The speed of light is irrelevant in the equations of coupling and interaction with the UAP phenomena. It is apparently causing effects at a quantum entangled state. Instantly.

In conclusion I feel that the any binary Jim may have received, either at the event or a few years after, would have been messed with by others, even to the point of hypnotic suggestion and maybe using a benzodiazepine in the process. (Some of the things I research seem a bit crazy at first but find very interesting things when digging deeper)

The issues I want to address from here are that…

It is happening at a quantum level that we are only now trying to understand. We have been developing technology tools and new theoretical ideas going down to the point of our very existence, which are starting to help answer some of these fundamental questions of, Who Are We and Why are We.

On night one, the phenomena may have been attracted to The Thing.

I am going to keep it simple to save confusion.

There was NO craft on night one?

The phenomena may have been generated due to energy passing below for use on a cloud buster set up underground for use above ground.

The energy in the area may have magnetised an object called ‘The Thing’ which may have attracted the phenomena towards it.

The triangular markings may have something more to do with the flow of a high electric current from the phenomena, dissipating through the tyres?

Did the phenomenon move this ‘Thing’ from one spot to another.

This would make sense in the context of the phenomenon apparently being able to move people from one spot to another? (Type of wormhole, mini black hole?)

Then the phenomenon finds Jim and John (and Ed?) more interesting due to the biological nature and DNA vibrational signal, when they appear?

Being rather inquisitive as to why the phenomena has been ‘summoned’ the phenomena then changes coupling from the thing, to Jim and John, takes the info it requires for whatever means then it is satisfied and departs, uncoupling moving off into the distance, then goes back to wherever it came.

On the third night, the phenomena was once again awoken.

John felt this awakening of the phenomena.

I do think that this was happening at the same time as an operation that was trying to ‘Covertly’ bring down a Soviet Zenit 6U, into the ocean but just consequences of the operation and technology involved, in and area that bares a local history similar to that of the Skinwalker occurrences.

There is a photo of part of the Zenit satellite in the back of a transport plane, which helps when trying to identify the satellite suggested, probably being flown to Scotland for further inspection.

We may have been more interested in the manoeuvrability aspects of the Zenit in 1980.

The satellite recon tapes were probably one of the missions of the apparent Spetsnaz also in the area.

The reason for bringing both the tech, what it was being used for, and the suggestions that it somehow conjured/summoned this Precognitive Sentient Intelligence, is to highlight that it may NOT have been conjured/summoned had we not been adding to the longitudinal forces/ELF in the area for the cloud buster.

In other words, all this was going on at the same time, which may have caused much concern as this may have been considered some type of weapon being used to interfere with any military activity.

The clampdown could be due to the apparent mission as well as trying to find out what and how this phenomenon became active during the mission?

Was it a weapon, was it the Soviets must have played on the minds of those involved with the planning of any operation, imo.

Maybe the phenomena wanted John, to try and understand this time, and possible communicate as to why the ‘lamp has been rubbed’ again?

My reasoning for discounting a platform of ‘ours’ that was generating the energy and light that engulfed individuals on night one and night three arise from the tech behind the cloud buster.

What I also note is the amount of attention both I and others have been drawn too, from early reports from Jim, and history of Stealth type recon craft heading out from Mildenhall.

If there were any drone type craft or stealth type craft in the area, which would also include a modified 707, they would be more concerned with the activity concerning the recovery of a foreign satellite and the possible consequences thereafter.

Also, to note NIDS concluded that the triangular witness data accumulated by NIDS points to the craft using USAF military air corridors concluding these craft are man-made.

I do not see Joe McMonagle being allowed to publicly announce that the craft on the first night (there is that word again, a craft) was responsible for night one, giving of energy from a force field generator.
Why? Because the types of frequencies involved are also prevalent in the descriptions of mini wormholes as discussed by Stephen Hawking and Eric Davis, among others.

This mini wormhole can also be linked to the phenomena witnessed at the Skinwalker Ranch.

Balls of blue glass like orbs appearing from a much brighter white or Red light reminds us of something, does it not?

(blue lights coming out of the white light, see blue meanies in the following interview, the same phenomena, imo, described by john under hypnosis.)

This also seems to have happened during the study of consciousness quantum field theory and Remote viewing being examined by the likes of Dr Hal Puthoff and others.

In turn, understandable considering the apparent links to this phenomenon with the Zero Point Field Space time metric and consciousness itself.

Personally I think the only go to people with the right equipment and resources and knowledge right now and probably always have been, are Dr Hal Puthoff and associates.

If evidence for any of this is forthcoming, it will be via these individuals, and NOT Gaia TV.

Time will speak for itself, eventually.

Along with all the various papers and references I have posted under AdamE concerning the above while I have been privy to such a mind-blowing thread, I say this from a research perspective as well as a personal one.
When considering this, we must also consider the fundamentals of Energy, Frequency and vibration, which is Who We are, and Why We are. At a quantum and sub quantum level.

Plasma, the body electric, consciousness, and the Zero Point field are all connected at the subatomic/quantum (Informational) level.
Imagine seeing the consciousness of a remote viewer doing their 'thang' and it appearing as an electrically charged plasma ball or a thought form.
Some of these plasma balls seem natural, but others seem intelligent, to the point of being able to predict our thinking somewhat.
Maybe others 'are' remote viewers appearing as balls of light or thought form when tasked with certain location findings?
The point being and to note, this is where is strays into the military and technology side of this as in directed energy weapons, involving charged plasma and the controlling of an individual's mind or group of minds from a distance.
So, from the point of view from the military side, one could assume that not only would it be favourable to know which of these plasma balls are the ones from antiquity, the natural ones, or possible enemy use of the same directed energy weapon principle.
To note. Monad or the Absolute used to be symbolised as a dot encased in a circle. Reference to The Zero Point Field maybe?

Evidence is now being found that points in the direction of this phenomena being manifested using the Giza Pyramid as a larger version of what went down over the 3 (or 4?) nights during the RFI, apparently. Some of the history books when read, give a whole new perspective on their purpose.

The conjuring and entangled connection with a higher form or frequency.

Tesla was right, wasn’t he?

a reply to: AdamE

Hi Adam, I'm going to have a good read of what you've posted. Can I play devils advocate, what if the truth is something far different. I'm not sure I believe this, but see what you think.

1) A Warsaw Pact team attempt to enter the base on the 29th but fail
2) The next night, and for two more nights they run the following operation
3) Light show to attract people
4) Terahertz emitter to cause amnesia
5) Millimeter waves to heat up blood to help psychedelics penetrate blood brain barrier

That's the only non paranormal answer I can see.

Can you tell us more about the Giza Pyramid?

Logically, it would make no sense to run an operation at RFI,
due to politically sensitivity.

That is an overriding data point.

So... to me, it makes infinitely more sense, that a couple different
things in the REGION were happening, which just happened to
'splash over' to the twin bases, making the friggin mess we have to
this day.

It would seem that there was definitely a cleanup phase though..
that also continues to this day.

The fact that Lightalls and camera crews were ready to come charging
in, does at first seem to counter my position (the readiness I have on
good authority).

However I'd say that there was an awareness of defense-related experiments
going on IN THE REGION, and the possibility of there being something to
monitor or cleanup was known for some time.

One could almost wonder, if the experiments were performed purposely
in the region around RFI, due to the known history of BOL.

Now a final thought, is with the going underground of MK Ultra.. you know
it was publicly disbanded in the USA a few years before RFI.

but the safest way to continue nefarious activities, are to put them beyond
the reach of FOIA and other public monitoring/interference..

and as we've seen, the best way to do that, is to have private corporations
do the dirty work for you... and to have them do the dirty work in a friendly
third party country would be even better.

Kev