Rendlesham Forest…, A Christmas Story from 1980 - Can We ‘Let it Be’?

a reply to: ctj83

If you're going that route:
3) 'contact' was genuine, nothing got lost in translation:
I think of communication with another intelligence/phenomena being based on common associations/references where the uncommon ground results in 'random gibberish'/wrong pointers (yes, IT ... )

or

4) There's some close proximity safe zone to whatever it was?

Highly speculative here!

a reply to: AdamE

So, the coordinates from the sacred sites page were in the hands of National Geospatial Intelligence Agency and InQtel so is it possible the coordinates being sent to Jim via psychotronic means? IMO, nothing surprises me anymore.

Woah! I think Mary just ate a little more lamb there.

a reply to: ctj83

The BIG question - John has the greatest exposure but the least 'out there' stories.

Why? If Burroughs came closest to the object and clearly suffered the worst injuries, why is he the one with the least fantastic sounding story or delusions?

Of course the obvious answer is John was not subject to hypnotic/psychotronic programming and is actually 'patient zero'.

But it's probably more complex than that.

a reply to: mirageman

Not sure if I get that completely, but interesting none the less.

a reply to: mirageman

Perhaps cattle are also exposed to this phenomena. Perhaps CTR also mental swiss cheeses them. Maybe a little like Mad cow disease?

Could this be the be the deadly brain disease that Ryan Dube relates about the UAP Group back during SERPO?

a reply to: ctj83

I suspect that it would also harm cattle and many other animals. I don't have any research papers to quote nor I am particularly knowledgeable about the subject. So you'll have to expand a bit on that.

a reply to: ctj83

Sorry to butt in.

You came to me seemingly concerned re vanishing mail.
I responded back. Did you or did you not receive my response?
Cheers.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

I responded. The mail is now back.

There are no new messages from you.
I have double checked?

Miirageman, Admin. Perhaps there is an ATS
problem?

Please re-send Ctj83.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Sent a new message around 30 mins ago, in reply to your message.

a reply to: ctj83

Would holding a strong magnet next to a hard drive be a good analogy of what you have in mind?

a reply to: Baablacksheep

The messaging system is flaky sometimes.

There is a forum board business & questions for raising issues with admin. It would probably be best to ask if other members are experiencing issues as well.

I've checked with my superiors at MI6 and they've confirmed there is no problem reading any of our messages.

a reply to: mirageman

Oh, I'd heard it was just the wheelie bin department at Lambeth council checking up on us.

a reply to: zeroPointOneQ

Yes.

There is a clear pattern identified by NIDS before it went defunct:
- Correlation of UFOs to military installations
- Correlation of cattle mutilations to installations

Why would any natural, supernatural, or extraterrestrial phenomena confine itself to buzzing humans?
Why would there be a BSE expert part of the SkinWalker investigation team?
Why would the UAP treatment group identify brain changes from exposure to CTR?
Why would Condign identify UAP radiation (CTR) as altering memories?

My guess it that whatever alters human brains, also alters cattle brains.

Could any of these be options?
Soviets got a remote-controlled vehicle to the edge of the base, the intention being to fire huge amounts of ELF to trigger a criticality event and get CND up in arms about the base?
Kyrpton gas combined with radar created some dangerous weather phenomenon?

a reply to: ctj83

Which suggests the real interest in John might be that he can resist the influence of Condign Type Radiation.

Sounds like a type of prison restraint.

a reply to: ctj83

Lol let's hope it is sorted. I did respond but
you have not opened it yet.....

originally posted by: ctj83
a reply to: zeroPointOneQ



Could any of these be options?
Soviets got a remote-controlled vehicle to the edge of the base, the intention being to fire huge amounts of ELF to trigger a criticality event and get CND up in arms about the base?
Kyrpton gas combined with radar created some dangerous weather phenomenon?

Hi ctj83. I find your question in reference to Krypton interesting only as 'Krypton, like the other noble gases, is used in lighting and photography. Krypton light has many spectral lines, and krypton plasma is useful in bright, high-powered gas lasers (krypton ion and excimer lasers), each of which resonates and amplifies a single spectral line. Krypton fluoride also makes a useful laser.' en.wikipedia.org...

The excimer laser was invented in 1970[1] by Nikolai Basov, V. A. Danilychev and Yu. M. Popov, at the Lebedev Physical Institute in Moscow, using a xenon dimer (Xe2) excited by an electron beam to give stimulated emission at 172 nm wavelength. A later improvement, developed by many groups in 1975 was the use of noble gas halides (originally XeBr).

These groups include the Avco Everett Research Laboratory,[3] Sandia Laboratories,[4] the Northrop Research and Technology Center,[5] and the United States Government's Naval Research Laboratory[6] who also developed a XeCl Laser[7] that was excited using a microwave discharge. en.wikipedia.org...

Xenon monochloride (XeCl) is an excimer which is used in excimer lasers emitting near ultraviolet light at 308 nm. It is most commonly used in medicine. It was used to produce a body image from the Shroud of Turin.[1]
The results suggest that a directional burst of ultraviolet radiation may have played a role in the formation of the image on the Shroud.[1]
en.wikipedia.org...

(Would or could shadows seen above John as reported by Bustinza have anything to do with black body radiation? Almost like a separation between body, and body radiation? Or the separation of Aura from the body? )

What is meant by the phrase “black body” radiation? The point is that the radiation from a heated body depends to some extent on the body being heated. To see this most easily, let’s back up momentarily and consider how different materials absorb radiation.

In fact, we can be much more precise: a body emits radiation at a given temperature and frequency exactly as well as it absorbs the same radiation. This was proved by Kirchhoff: the essential point is that if we suppose a particular body can absorb better than it emits, then in a room full of objects all at the same temperature, it will absorb radiation from the other bodies better than it radiates energy back to them. This means it will get hotter, and the rest of the room will grow colder, contradicting the second law of thermodynamics. (We could use such a body to construct a heat engine extracting work as the room grows colder and colder!)

But a metal glows when it’s heated up enough: why is that? As the temperature is raised, the lattice of atoms vibrates more and more, these vibrations scatter and accelerate the electrons. Even glass glows at high enough temperatures, as the electrons are loosened and vibrate. galileo.phys.virginia.edu...

a reply to: AdamE

(Would or could shadows seen above John as reported by Bustinza have anything to do with black body radiation? Almost like a separation between body, and body radiation? Or the separation of Aura from the body? )

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Black body radiation is like the heat coming off of Usain Bolt after he's ran the 200m!!

a reply to: mirageman

Thanks for that spacevisitor.

Your very welcome.
You said in an answer to my last post to you;

It opens up even more holes doesn't it?

It surely does, the RFI has obviously turned out to become a very deep rabbit hole.

You said;

If a serious incident was happening on the base then the highest ranks would all surely be involved?

Oh I am personally convinced that it was definitely a very serious incident, also because as Monroe Nevels said in his interview with Linda Howe in 2010 that;

"Linda; Do you think it is fair to assume that the Base Commander Col. Ted Conrad was perhaps doing his TOP SECRET investigation on orders of other people in higher authority than he was?

Monroe; “I was told that General Gabriel from 3rd Air Force in Ramstein, Germany, had been notified (of the phenomena) and the concern since the base was nuclear, General Gabriel had to come to RAF Bentwaters. He had to come in and see what was going on. But, there were only a few people who were allowed to meet with him and Col. Halt was not one of them.

Linda; Who did meet with General Gabriel?

Monroe; I don't know. All I know is that the only story I was told was that these two Generals flew in, talked to the 81st Wing Commander [ Col. Gordon Williams] and Base Commander [ Col. Ted Conrad] and they took the tape that Col. Halt had and made that night [ Sunday, December 28, 1980 after midnight] and those Generals went back to their respective bases and that's the last I ever heard of it.”

Regarding your other remark;

the highest ranks would all surely be involved?

I am only guessing now of course but perhaps one reason could be because of that party that was going on and because they absolutely not even wanted to become involved with it because of the very negative consequences it could have in those days for their military careers after have being involved with UFOs. That’s also why as I am correct was Halt far from being happy with the fact that his memo came to light.

You said;

So was it serious?

Regarding all I know about it so far and having said above I am convinced that it was definitely dead serious indeed.

You said;

Or just a bunch of airmen rambling in the woods?

Because of that all those men during those happenings were definitely highly trained Security officers I personally find that out of the question and in fact for them very insulting indeed.

If it was serious why were there no alerts, no call for air cover and the Base and Wing Commander seemingly distant from everything going on?

I really cannot imagine myself because of all those happenings whereunder some of the things I mentioned above that there were no alerts at the base and also not because of the already very dangerous situation with Russia and Poland which could trigger a war at any moment.
There was if I am correct some helicopter activity but I have no idea for why there were no fighter planes involved.