Russel Brand: The time for Revolution is now.

I never used to like Russell, I'm still not really a fan of his stand-up, but he has changed my opinion of him in the last few years. He is bright, articulate and knows what he's talking about and for those of you who don't know, not many people get the better of Jeremy Paxman, Paxman has spent his career grilling Politicains and more than likely bringing them to tears, so well done Russell, if voting worked they would have made it illegal centuries ago.

reply to post by heliopolis
It's more than just this interview though. He was on question time too, and interviewed by Andrew Neil.

His output may be 'fresh' and insightful to some, but it's surely nothing new to most of us here.

The only thing that worried me about Mr Brand's interview was his view of a socialist egalitarian system. Isn't that Communism aka the New World Order's Agenda 21. Everyone will be equal......equal in the gutter except for a potentially invisible tiny elite who will 'drive the system' behind a curtain of immunity through annonymity.

Maybe that's not what Mr Brand meant, but it rang warning bells for me and I enjoyed listening to him, he made some very good points and certainly seemed to 'touch' Mr Paxman.

This 'equality' exists in certain religious cults who also have an almost invisible and unaccountable elite. I can see how it could be copied in a practical social society. However, those in the cult are told they are all equal and live in a 'spiritual paradise' when infact they are in a 'spiritual desert / hell' being led by the nose and robbed by a 'non spiritual elite'.

Brave New World and 1984. Becareful what you wish for!

I love seeing the power of a healthy, uncluttered, focused mind.

Brand, back from the brink!! And yet still tip-toeing the brink, that of revolution.

Absolutely love this man and his passion.

Robert Reynolds
reply to post by heliopolis

 

It's more than just this interview though. He was on question time too, and interviewed by Andrew Neil.

His output may be 'fresh' and insightful to some, but it's surely nothing new to most of us here.

I agree with what your saying in regards to the fact that this information has been around for some time now. But in the past it has been brought to the public domain through the means of people like David Icke and Alex Jones. Although both these people have extremely valid points to make, their argument has always been tainted by something.

One of Ickes earliest TV appearances on Wogan (www.youtube.com...) made it difficult to lose the 'nutjob' title it gained him at the time and his current reptilian subject matter is not a pill the mainstream public are ready to swallow. As I posted earlier, I feel Alex Jones also damaged the credibility of his information by the way he acted when being interviewed by Piers Morgan (www.abovetopsecret.com...).

I'm happy that Brand is speaking out and actually putting forward a solid and acceptable argument which is catching the public's attention in the right way and not just being discussed by users on a conspiracy forum.

Brand is an absolute genius. The beauty of the jester is that he can say aloud what everyone else is thinking.

I suspect he is really an individualist like most of us here, although wrapped in leftist collectivist clothing as an understandable reaction to moneyed, elite rule. We can help clarify some things for him in that regard, and we'd all be wiser for the conversation. The bottom line here is that the false left/right paradigm has to come to an end for full revolution. If not, you will have people who agree with each other on 8 points completely go to war over 2 points and thus nullify any transformation that could have taken place.

The evil brilliance of our political system is that it forces people to choose SIDES rather than IDEAS.

As an example, let's say 2 people believe that income inequality is too great. Now one person thinks that it should be addressed by the government helping the working man attain better wages through legislation. The other person believes that the government should get out of the way with less regulations and taxing. They are both right and wrong. Their main ideal of a better living for themselves and their families cannot be achieved fully by either method (even though there is wisdom to both approaches if used in conjunction). So now, forgetting that they both wish to reach the same goal, they stop cooperating. Actually what happens here is that TPTB intentionally sow discord with character attacks and name calling to prevent these 2 people from finding common ground with talk like, "You want a handout," followed by, "You just want to cling to your guns and religion." Now both these people have the exact same problem, but cannot see the forests from the trees.

Meanwhile TPTB maintain the status quo. Year after year, regardless of which fake political ideology either person sulks in, the agenda of becoming more and more dependent continues. It is a complete farce, yet all MSM has to do is throw up a few stories that hit people in the emotional gut, and they're back to bickering. At their absolute core, the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street should have joined forces...but that would have brought about real change (not just campaign promises) and we can't have that kind of miscegenation now can we?!

"The time is now."
Now where have I heard that before?

People talk of revolution, but with no direction...

They speak of an ideal, but not of a realistic path to reach that ideal...

I would be interested to hear if he has any actual steps to start taking. Else, I am inclined to believe it all just plays into the exact same paradigm he mentions.

What are some things that need fixing? Thats easy.

How do we fix them? Thats the question.

muzzleflash
reply to post by Asktheanimals

 

Also talk of Revolution means :
Death, Murder, Chaos, Insanity

Revolt this time will only bring Evil to our lands. Airstrikes, tanks on street, entire city blocks raided like in Nazi times.

They are being LED BY THIS MEDIA off the cliff!

All this anger is fabricated and facilitated by forces that want them eliminated from the world politic equation.

Its about dissolving our Nation actually.
Only we can defeat the USA thats why they are manipulating citizens into massive anti gov mentality.

My dislike for Brand is neither here nor there, there is a lot of truth in what he is saying. But this for me is what came to my mind when you talk about revolution. The majority of us would suffer no end, be it food, water, weapons used against us.


The only way we win this game is by learning to play it and using it against them. A group large enough can carry a lot of financial clout, you would need to sway people away from the corporations just for starters.

Mortalhelix
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

How can we hope to change anything without sacrifice? Yes death, murder and the rest will happen but it's not like those things aren't happening daily.

What? You were suppose to respond "Muzz what the heck are you saying? We had no intentions like that".

You were suppose to make me look distant, isolated, and confused.

The point I was trying to make is that peace and education are solutions that work.

Violence cannot solve the thematic overall problem violence in society. It will actually increase overall violence levels.

Brand likes to quote Einstein, thats a great lead hes giving everyone, lets go learn about Albert and people he knew. Lets learn some physics and history.

That is the real solution to all of our problems: Educational Renaissance.

reply to post by Horus12


See, theres an actual option.

But, do we really need financial clout? I have no doubt it would help, but is it actually *needed*?

We have all of the technology at our hands to make an actually free market, even delving into open source releases for individual communities that can be shared worldwide and improved upon and shared again.

The issue is market domination, and that has carried through into levels of government as well. The issue is, all of the major tools have "individual and small business" sellers as merely a footnote. The focus remains on large corporations, but given the ONE tool called the internet, it doesnt need to be this way.

It could be done by just one website, with one goal. An economic coup of sorts, done by the people and for the people simply by using the same tools in a different way.

reply to post by Horus12


You just gave everyone a powerful solution.

To vote with their money.

Boycotts do work when critical mass is reached.
The Internet grants us power to achieve global voice but few corporations get scolded or opposed.

That could change.
People could take advantage of consumer opinion to achive great changes economically all around us.

Vote with $$$
The forgotten weapon.

Love Russell, always have, the guy's a legend.

I know it's an awful thing to say, but I fear he's making a target of himself. All the good, popular people who try and send a positive message tend to meet a sticky end.

I always thought of him as the 'live fast die young' type, if 'something bad' happened to Russell I don't think many would be surprised or ask too many questions as he's had somewhat of an illustrious past.

I hope I'm wrong on this and hate to sound morbid, I've been a fan of Russell's for a long time, seen most of his standup shows and enjoy his particular...ahem, brand...of comedy.

I hope he continues to make people laugh and educate them, he's got a heart of gold.

Long live brother Brand.

buster2010
reply to post by Asktheanimals

 

Where did Russell Brand suddenly appear from? Who is this guy and why should anyone listen to him regardless of wit or intelligence? What's he done to make him worth listening to is what I'm asking?

He has done nothing to make him worth listening too. He's just another celebrity that thinks he knows politics.

sounds like a touch of the green eyed monster and its making you bitter.

so is what he said not true??

he's doing more than you are.

He is intelligent, articulate, witty and famous...very good qualities to have to get people to listen to you...what do you have? a computer and a keyboard to hide behind.

I wish I could have an opportunity to say what I thought on TV like he has...though I'd never be able to delivery it that well.

Serdgiam
reply to post by Horus12

 

See, theres an actual option.

But, do we really need financial clout? I have no doubt it would help, but is it actually *needed*?

We have all of the technology at our hands to make an actually free market, even delving into open source releases for individual communities that can be shared worldwide and improved upon and shared again.

The issue is market domination, and that has carried through into levels of government as well. The issue is, all of the major tools have "individual and small business" sellers as merely a footnote. The focus remains on large corporations, but given the ONE tool called the internet, it doesnt need to be this way.

It could be done by just one website, with one goal. An economic coup of sorts, done by the people and for the people simply by using the same tools in a different way.

I meant financial clout as in enough people making decisions that would move money away from those greedy bastards. I suppose buying local is one way, make the people around you richer would benefit your community more.

The internet is a great tool. If someone came up with an idea or concept, Im sure there are a quite a few people around who could move with it.

reply to post by crimvelvet


Great Post and excerpts. Every Society/Government has it's Day in the Sun, eventually the Sun sets on it. Can we break the cycle? Maybe we are smart enough to.

Mr. Brand is sharp as a tack. I may not agree with all of his points but he articulates them so well they are hard to refute. I loved how he made the Morning Joe Squad just squirm in the shoes. They didn't know what hit them.

Horus12
I meant financial clout as in enough people making decisions that would move money away from those greedy bastards. I suppose buying local is one way, make the people around you richer would benefit your community more.

The internet is a great tool. If someone came up with an idea or concept, Im sure there are a quite a few people around who could move with it.

Buying local might not mean to you what it means to me

The site is in the works though, no worries.

As a fellow Brit who has always had an interest in Mr Brand I know that he has had this opinion for a long time. His point of view would of had no gravitas in times gone by, his voice would of been met with deaf ears as is ours. I truly believe that he has waited until he reached the level of celebrity to have his voice heard. He has spent a long time dumbing down so as not to seem a threat and NOW he is in a position to openly speak of revolution. Well done mate.

A case in point, is that when I went seeing the Dalai Lama give a talk last year, Russel Brand was the host and the Dalai Lama had picked him specifically, even when his staff had told him not to.

The U.S. tv hosts were taken aback by Russell because he was so articulate. They never answered a question or followed up upon any of his comments and just changed the subject to something mundane or trivial.